Class of 2013 Employment Stats (updated LST Score Reports) Forum

lawschool22 · Post by **lawschool22** » Fri May 02, 2014 7:15 am

That list illustrates why I thinking including school-funded can be misleading.

09042014 · Post by **09042014** » Fri May 02, 2014 7:20 am

I heard you guys wanted some rankings?

jenesaislaw · Post by **jenesaislaw** » Fri May 02, 2014 9:13 am

Can you edit that so it doesn't screw up the whole page?

Ded Precedent · Post by **Ded Precedent** » Sat May 03, 2014 1:03 am

Can we get a key for what the color code means and damn can you edit the size of that image. Thanks.

09042014 · Post by **09042014** » Sat May 03, 2014 12:40 pm

Thats as small as it gets and still be readable.

cotiger · Post by **cotiger** » Sat May 03, 2014 12:47 pm

Desert Fox wrote:Thats as small as it gets and still be readable.

Goddamn Stanford is just too prestigious. Mucking everything up.

Keith Lee · Post by **Keith Lee** » Wed Dec 24, 2014 4:55 pm

Now in pretty picture form:

http://associatesmind.com/2014/12/24/cl ... l-schools/

LurkerShirker · Post by **LurkerShirker** » Wed Dec 24, 2014 5:18 pm

Just a suggestion on the chart. If someone is in a part time or short term position, you have then categorized as both unemployed - in the first column -- and in a school funded position - in the second column. It seems the school funded jobs should be a subset of those you are counting as employed, rather than, as here a subset of those who are either counted as employed or unemployed.

You should either limit the school funded numbers to those full time, long term JD required or preferred positions; or, alternatively, you should exclude from the unemployed numbers those who are in short term or part time positions.

NYCFAN1 · Post by **NYCFAN1** » Mon Jan 05, 2015 2:27 am

*
nvm -- was talking specifically about LST scores

bl1nds1ght · Post by **bl1nds1ght** » Mon Jan 05, 2015 3:01 pm

NYCFAN1 wrote:
Keith Lee wrote:Now in pretty picture form:

http://associatesmind.com/2014/12/24/cl ... l-schools/
I appreciate the breakdown, but it's still deceptive for future students. Example: Michigan has a high "unemployment score" yet it sent students from the class of 2013 to the following employers:

....

I understand that these aren't legal position, but many law students would prefer these positions over big law gigs. Can LSN, Associate Minds, etc. come up with a way to quantify these non-legal but still 'desirable' jobs?

I'm not sure what you're trying to argue here. The jobs you cited are not being included in the gross unemployment figure for Mich. Gross unemployment in no way refers to "non-legal" jobs. It refers specifically to people who are completely unemployed or underemployed in short term/part time work.

jenesaislaw · Post by **jenesaislaw** » Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:14 pm

^ Exactly. Those desirable JD-advantage jobs at Michigan are not included in the LST Employment Score or the LST Under-Employment Score.

PS, bl1nds1ght, thanks for all of the help you provide users on Reddit. I've had a few people tell me how helpful you are, and I've seen it for myself too.

jk148706 · Post by **jk148706** » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:51 pm

ABA considering not allowing schools to report school-funded jobs as FTLT

This might affect some LST numbers http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog ... -may-.html

jenesaislaw · Post by **jenesaislaw** » Mon Mar 09, 2015 1:53 pm

jk148706 wrote:ABA considering not allowing schools to report school-funded jobs as FTLT

This might affect some LST numbers http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog ... -may-.html

Yep. LST supports this proposal. We will eliminate school-funded jobs from the Employment Score if this passes.

Tiago Splitter · Post by **Tiago Splitter** » Mon Mar 09, 2015 1:54 pm

jenesaislaw wrote:
jk148706 wrote:ABA considering not allowing schools to report school-funded jobs as FTLT

This might affect some LST numbers http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog ... -may-.html
Yep. LST supports this proposal. We will eliminate school-funded jobs from the Employment Score if this passes.

Are you worried it will keep schools from offering the jobs in the first place?

jenesaislaw · Post by **jenesaislaw** » Mon Mar 09, 2015 3:00 pm

Tiago Splitter wrote:
jenesaislaw wrote:
jk148706 wrote:ABA considering not allowing schools to report school-funded jobs as FTLT

This might affect some LST numbers http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog ... -may-.html
Yep. LST supports this proposal. We will eliminate school-funded jobs from the Employment Score if this passes.
Are you worried it will keep schools from offering the jobs in the first place?

Yes, absolutely. It will separate the good intentions from the bad ones, though.

rion91 · Post by **rion91** » Tue Mar 10, 2015 1:13 pm

When do LST/ABA numbers come out?

jenesaislaw · Post by **jenesaislaw** » Tue Mar 10, 2015 4:25 pm

rion91 wrote:When do LST/ABA numbers come out?

Best guess, first week of May. Hoping for end of April.

071816 · Post by **071816** » Tue Mar 10, 2015 4:35 pm

How are in-house positions factored into this graph?

jenesaislaw · Post by **jenesaislaw** » Tue Mar 10, 2015 5:52 pm

Which graph?

In-house positions (are rare and) are categorized as "business."

071816 · Post by **071816** » Tue Mar 10, 2015 6:26 pm

jenesaislaw wrote:Which graph?

In-house positions (are rare and) are categorized as "business."

Gotcha. I was referring to the graph that 09042014 posted above. I guess that graphd oesn't include the "business" category. I was just curious because in-house positions directly out of law school seem to be getting more common.

ijomer · Post by **ijomer** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:16 am

So this further proves that US news ranking for Law school isn't all accurate... there are schools which are doing amazing but their ranking is so low... aka Seton Hall Law for example.

NoBladesNoBows · Post by **NoBladesNoBows** » Tue Apr 28, 2015 11:13 pm

Class of 2013 Employment Stats (updated LST Score Reports) Forum

Re: Class of 2013 Employment Stats (updated LST Score Reports)

Re: Class of 2013 Employment Stats (updated LST Score Reports)

Re: Class of 2013 Employment Stats (updated LST Score Reports)

Re: Class of 2013 Employment Stats (updated LST Score Reports)

Re: Class of 2013 Employment Stats (updated LST Score Reports)

Register now to search topics and post comments!

Re: Class of 2013 Employment Stats (updated LST Score Reports)

Re: Class of 2013 Employment Stats (updated LST Score Reports)

Re: Class of 2013 Employment Stats (updated LST Score Reports)

Re: Class of 2013 Employment Stats (updated LST Score Reports)

Register for access!

Re: Class of 2013 Employment Stats (updated LST Score Reports)

Re: Class of 2013 Employment Stats (updated LST Score Reports)

Re: Class of 2013 Employment Stats (updated LST Score Reports)

Re: Class of 2013 Employment Stats (updated LST Score Reports)

Resources to assist law school applicants, students & graduates.

Re: Class of 2013 Employment Stats (updated LST Score Reports)

Re: Class of 2013 Employment Stats (updated LST Score Reports)

Re: Class of 2013 Employment Stats (updated LST Score Reports)

Re: Class of 2013 Employment Stats (updated LST Score Reports)

Register now!

Re: Class of 2013 Employment Stats (updated LST Score Reports)

Re: Class of 2013 Employment Stats (updated LST Score Reports)

Re: Class of 2013 Employment Stats (updated LST Score Reports)

Re: Class of 2013 Employment Stats (updated LST Score Reports)

Register now, it's still FREE!

Re: Class of 2013 Employment Stats (updated LST Score Reports)

Seriously? What are you waiting for?