How do people seriously turn down Harvard Law??? Forum

[sophie316]

Everyone I know that is at/went to HLS hated it and their fellow students. I'd rather be happy at a T10 than miserable at Harvard.

Also don't you remember that episode of Sex and the City where Miranda scared off every guy she went on a date with after they learned she went to HLS. She eventually got one to stick around by lying that she was a stewardess. Chicks may dig HLS guys but men are scared of HLS women, so sayeth SatC....

[PDaddy]

That's funny - Harvard is one of only two schools in the T14 where African Americans outnumber Asians. At most other T14s, Asians far outnumber African Americans. This probably speaks volumes about Harvard's appeal to the African American community (it may or may not say something about their aversion to Asians).

Don't get me wrong. I am not saying that Harvard doesn't have great appeal to blacks. I am saying that it isn't held above other schools the way it is among whites. It just doesn't mean that much.

The fact that blacks overwhelmingly pick Harvard over T14 schools says that black law students understand Harvard's appeal to white employers, which is not unimportant by any means. But in the black community, a black law student can tell Ms. Jones from down the street that he got into Harvard or that he got into Duke...or Howard...or Emory...or Tulane, and he will get the same responses for all of the schools. Similarly, a black graduate can do the same with black employers. The BET, UNITECH, OMNITECH Systems, InScope Solutions, etc....they don't give a hang what school a black graduate went to. They want to see some "per-4-monce"!

But, yeah, nobody can completely ignore Harvard. It would be one of my favorite schools, of course. But there are others I could see picking over it. Stanford is my favorite b/c it's like going to school at a resort. Are you kidding me? lol.

[Borhas]

There's about a 90 percent chance I'm going to turn down Harvard for a school not named Yale or Stanford. Sometimes it really comes down to what you want instead of what impresses other people.

What if what I want is to impress other people?

killself

everybody wins

[hellokitty]

Well, I haven't read through the entire thread but I would probably turn it down (if I had HLS numbers) based on location alone. I don't think I could ever live anywhere with real seasons. That being said, I would probably only go if I didn't get into any of my top choices and for some random reason HLS just decided to accept me AND throw some money my way. It would be something to think about, but I've honestly never even thought about going there.

[PDaddy]

This seems odd--I know plenty of black people and their families who think Harvard is bar none the best....

They are like everyone else. They understand the doors the name opens. And they are also accepting what they are told. Many people rate things they have only heard or read about but never experienced. But for a successful black law graduate, those doors are going to open anyways. If I have a choice between a top black graduate from Harvard and a top black graduate from, say Georgetown, what do I care about the names of the schools?

Both students have fought incredible odds to get to where they are. And I might even be a bit concerned about the attitudes the Harvard grad has adopted, having been in the Harvard environment. That would almost make me more suspicious of the Harvard grad, and I might want him to be more extensively vetted. Call it the "H Minus Effect"...it happens to all Harvard grads.

[mike7174]

Everyone I know that is at/went to HLS hated it and their fellow students. I'd rather be happy at a T10 than miserable at Harvard.

Also don't you remember that episode of Sex and the City where Miranda scared off every guy she went on a date with after they learned she went to HLS. She eventually got one to stick around by lying that she was a stewardess. Chicks may dig HLS guys but men are scared of HLS women, so sayeth SatC....

http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2002/ ... -bomb-its/

Definitely true. But for guys, it's golden.

[KibblesAndVick]

Both students have fought incredible odds to get to where they are. And I might even be a bit concerned about the attitudes the Harvard grad has adopted, having been in the Harvard environment. That would almost make me more suspicious of the Harvard grad, and I might want him to be more extensively vetted. Call it the "H Minus Effect"...it happens to all Harvard grads.

Is this the reason for their poor employment statistics, especially ITE?

[D. H2Oman]

This seems odd--I know plenty of black people and their families who think Harvard is bar none the best....

They are like everyone else. They understand the doors the name opens. And they are also accepting what they are told. Many people rate things they have only heard or read about but never experienced. But for a successful black law graduate, those doors are going to open anyways. If I have a choice between a top black graduate from Harvard and a top black graduate from, say Georgetown, what do I care about the names of the schools?

Both students have fought incredible odds to get to where they are. And I might even be a bit concerned about the attitudes the Harvard grad has adopted, having been in the Harvard environment. That would almost make me more suspicious of the Harvard grad, and I might want him to be more extensively vetted. Call it the "H Minus Effect"...it happens to all Harvard grads.

You just keep getting dumber.

[dutchstriker]

There's about a 90 percent chance I'm going to turn down Harvard for a school not named Yale or Stanford. Sometimes it really comes down to what you want instead of what impresses other people.

What if what I want is to impress other people?

killself

everybody wins

Committing suicide impresses people? News to me.

[PDaddy]

If OP looked like me, he wouldn't need Harvard.

[20121109]

If OP looked like me, he wouldn't need Harvard.

Is there a reason why you keep changing your profile pic? They certainly don't look like the same person...


OP, I agree. I would take Harvard over any school.

[D. H2Oman]

If OP looked like me, he wouldn't need Harvard.

Is there a reason why you keep changing your profile pic? They certainly don't look like the same person...


OP, I agree. I would take Harvard over any school.

Was thinking this, scandal?????

[20121109]

If OP looked like me, he wouldn't need Harvard.

Is there a reason why you keep changing your profile pic? They certainly don't look like the same person...


OP, I agree. I would take Harvard over any school.

Was thinking this, scandal?????

Could be...or maybe he is just that good looking that he can switch it up whenever he likes. My dear Waterman, did you not know that he is a model?!!!

[D. H2Oman]

If OP looked like me, he wouldn't need Harvard.

Is there a reason why you keep changing your profile pic? They certainly don't look like the same person...


OP, I agree. I would take Harvard over any school.

Was thinking this, scandal?????

Could be...or maybe he is just that good looking that he can switch it up whenever he likes. My dear Waterman, did you not know that he is a model?!!!

I mean the current version of him is pretty good looking









for a black guy

[20121109]

Was thinking this, scandal?????

Could be...or maybe he is just that good looking that he can switch it up whenever he likes. My dear Waterman, did you not know that he is a model?!!!

I mean the current version of him is pretty good looking









for a black guy

180

[stratocophic]

Was thinking this, scandal?????

Could be...or maybe he is just that good looking that he can switch it up whenever he likes. My dear Waterman, did you not know that he is a model?!!!

I mean the current version of him is pretty good looking









for a black guy

180

Oh, man. Speaking of H-bombs, DW just went straight up nukular.

[ChildPlease]

so, have you decided between Harvard and Stanford yet?

Yeah, Harvard without a doubt.

How did this guy get into Harvard?

[Borhas]

Committing suicide impresses people? News to me.

hell yeah, you just have to do it right
preferable method is killdozer Rampage (RIP Marvin)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24n77GgRtrw


impress people=win for /selfer
one less attention whore= win for everybody else

[mike7174]

I mean, I suppose it’s shallow of me to place such a heavy emphasis on lay prestige, but hey, it makes a difference. Like why would somebody pick a Toyota over a Mercedes, or a Lexus over a Bentley? I’m not suggesting that Harvard is a Mercedes/Bentley and Stanford and Yale are Toyotas/Lexus’, but you get my point. People do a lot of things to show off: buy nice cars, homes, clothes, watches…why not pick a school that will allow you to show off a little more when you’re picking between schools that are extraordinarily similar in quality/job prospects? I guess that’s my whole point.

[stratocophic]

I mean, I suppose it’s shallow of me to place such a heavy emphasis on lay prestige, but hey, it makes a difference. Like why would somebody pick a Toyota over a Mercedes, or a Lexus over a Bentley? I’m not suggesting that Harvard is a Mercedes/Bentley and Stanford and Yale are Toyotas/Lexus’, but you get my point. People do a lot of things to show off: buy nice cars, homes, clothes, watches…why not pick a school that will allow you to show off a little more when you’re picking between schools that are extraordinarily similar in quality/job prospects? I guess that’s my whole point.

Correct me if I'm missing something, but why not just go to Yale, steal a Biglaw gig from a Harvard grad by foregoing a clerkship, then buy the Bentley for the purpose of showing off?

[Great Satchmo]

I mean, I suppose it’s shallow of me to place such a heavy emphasis on lay prestige, but hey, it makes a difference. Like why would somebody pick a Toyota over a Mercedes, or a Lexus over a Bentley? I’m not suggesting that Harvard is a Mercedes/Bentley and Stanford and Yale are Toyotas/Lexus’, but you get my point. People do a lot of things to show off: buy nice cars, homes, clothes, watches…why not pick a school that will allow you to show off a little more when you’re picking between schools that are extraordinarily similar in quality/job prospects? I guess that’s my whole point.

Correct me if I'm missing something, but why not just go to Yale, steal a Biglaw gig from a Harvard grad by foregoing a clerkship, then buy the Bentley for the purpose of showing off?

Or better-yet, get a clerkship, and then go to biglaw + a bonus for the clerkship. Then buy an ostentatious car.

[stratocophic]

I mean, I suppose it’s shallow of me to place such a heavy emphasis on lay prestige, but hey, it makes a difference. Like why would somebody pick a Toyota over a Mercedes, or a Lexus over a Bentley? I’m not suggesting that Harvard is a Mercedes/Bentley and Stanford and Yale are Toyotas/Lexus’, but you get my point. People do a lot of things to show off: buy nice cars, homes, clothes, watches…why not pick a school that will allow you to show off a little more when you’re picking between schools that are extraordinarily similar in quality/job prospects? I guess that’s my whole point.

Correct me if I'm missing something, but why not just go to Yale, steal a Biglaw gig from a Harvard grad by foregoing a clerkship, then buy the Bentley for the purpose of showing off?

Or better-yet, get a clerkship, and then go to biglaw + a bonus for the clerkship. Then buy an ostentatious car.

MF'in credited.

[ConMan345]

This seems odd--I know plenty of black people and their families who think Harvard is bar none the best....

They are like everyone else. They understand the doors the name opens. And they are also accepting what they are told. Many people rate things they have only heard or read about but never experienced. But for a successful black law graduate, those doors are going to open anyways. If I have a choice between a top black graduate from Harvard and a top black graduate from, say Georgetown, what do I care about the names of the schools?

Both students have fought incredible odds to get to where they are. And I might even be a bit concerned about the attitudes the Harvard grad has adopted, having been in the Harvard environment. That would almost make me more suspicious of the Harvard grad, and I might want him to be more extensively vetted. Call it the "H Minus Effect"...it happens to all Harvard grads.

Unless I'm missing something, I don't think this helps your argument or hurts mine.

[xyzzzzzzzz]

[Case2L]

I turned down THAT Harvard because it just seemed too pretentious.

Besides, The Harvard of Cleveland > The Harvard of Cambridge any day of the week.