QU v Cardozo(Ferrisjso's decision) Forum

[Ferrisjso]

This is so ridiculous. So youre planning on walking/PTing everywhere (while living in CT) for the rest of your life until you can afford to Uber everywhere??

You highlighted a sentence where I said I was going to get a license this comment makes no sense.

So you would rather drive local in NYC than drive on highways in CT. You seem a little confused.

*I thought you meant law license lol

Lmfao about the license thing.

No, you misunderstood. I'd rather drive local in CT, but apparently in CT they force you to drive on highways to get your license(which anywhere is a deal breaker for me because I just am not capable of doing that) where in NY they don't, so to get the license I need to get it in NY before LS.

Gotcha, but Ferris...you took the LSAT. And I'll guarantee that that is a far more daunting experience than the road test haha

Yeah most people I ask say that and I know you're being genuine, but I also have ADD(actually diagnosed) and honestly think I'm not capable of doing it. I'd say a majority of people I know who do drive in NY i know feel the same way about the highway and they're far more gunho about driving in general than I am. Have you seen the Merritt parkway, as much as I hated the LSAT, I'd rather take the test than go down that death trap?

[Ferrisjso]

Highway driving is way less stressful than city driving anyways imo.

Yeah how the fuck is this even a thing. Highway driving is the best driving and city driving is the worst.

I don't live in Manhattan I live in an outer borough. I don't know anyone who drives in Manhattan but in the rest of NYC people still mostly drive.

[Rigo]

Yeah ive never heard of having to drive on an interstate for the driving test in any state.

The road test evaluates:
-Safe condition of the test vehicle.
-Ability to properly adjust seat, mirror, seat belts ("preparing to drive").
-Response to traffic control signs and signals, signaling, interaction with other motorists (yielding right-of-way, response to emergency vehicles).
-Backing and parking.
-Proficiency in basic driving skills such as turns.
-Other driver maneuvers at the direction of the inspector/license agent.

http://www.ct.gov/dmv/cwp/view.asp?a=805&q=469194

[Ferrisjso]

Yeah ive never heard of having to drive on an interstate for the driving test in any state.

The road test evaluates:
-Safe condition of the test vehicle.
-Ability to properly adjust seat, mirror, seat belts ("preparing to drive").
-Response to traffic control signs and signals, signaling, interaction with other motorists (yielding right-of-way, response to emergency vehicles).
-Backing and parking.
-Proficiency in basic driving skills such as turns.
-Other driver maneuvers at the direction of the inspector/license agent.

http://www.ct.gov/dmv/cwp/view.asp?a=805&q=469194

People both here and Irl have told me that they make you.

[BlendedUnicorn]

Highway driving is way less stressful than city driving anyways imo.

Yeah how the fuck is this even a thing. Highway driving is the best driving and city driving is the worst.

I don't live in Manhattan I live in an outer borough. I don't know anyone who drives in Manhattan but in the rest of NYC people still mostly drive.

Ok. Doesn't change the fact that driving on highways is mostly fun and driving in cities is mostly terrible.

[Rigo]

People both here and Irl have told me that they make you.

So odd, but okay. I'll take your word for it.

[BlendedUnicorn]

Yeah ive never heard of having to drive on an interstate for the driving test in any state.

The road test evaluates:
-Safe condition of the test vehicle.
-Ability to properly adjust seat, mirror, seat belts ("preparing to drive").
-Response to traffic control signs and signals, signaling, interaction with other motorists (yielding right-of-way, response to emergency vehicles).
-Backing and parking.
-Proficiency in basic driving skills such as turns.
-Other driver maneuvers at the direction of the inspector/license agent.

http://www.ct.gov/dmv/cwp/view.asp?a=805&q=469194

TBF they really should now that I know this is a thing.

[Ferrisjso]

People both here and Irl have told me that they make you.

So odd, but okay. I'll take your word for it.

Thanks they were talking about it with the attitude "why wouldn't you have to drive on a highway" and I was freaking out. Thank you these last two posts have taken a huge burden off of my shoulders!

[Rigo]

Yeah ive never heard of having to drive on an interstate for the driving test in any state.

TBF they really should now that I know this is a thing.

I went the wrong way down a one-way and still managed to pass somehow. I would have traded a city driving test for the highway anyday. See ferris, no pressure!

[snw2367]

People both here and Irl have told me that they make you.

So odd, but okay. I'll take your word for it.

Thanks they were talking about it with the attitude "why wouldn't you have to drive on a highway" and I was freaking out. Thank you these last two posts have taken a huge burden off of my shoulders!

yes, drive on a highway IRL to do every day functions like go to certain stores that are say fifteen miles away, or jobs that are twenty miles away etc. Not for your driving test, however.

[half moon]

If your choices are either living in NYC or driving, but not both, then learning to drive almost anywhere else should be easy in comparison to NYC. I've been driving for years, and the two times I drove in NYC (once in Brooklyn, once in upper Manhattan) I was pretty nervous. So if you learn and take the test somewhere else, hopefully you'll have a similar drop in anxiety once you get out of the city a bit.

[Pragmatic Gun]

This is so ridiculous. So youre planning on walking/PTing everywhere (while living in CT) for the rest of your life until you can afford to Uber everywhere??

You highlighted a sentence where I said I was going to get a license this comment makes no sense.

So you would rather drive local in NYC than drive on highways in CT. You seem a little confused.

*I thought you meant law license lol

Lmfao about the license thing.

No, you misunderstood. I'd rather drive local in CT, but apparently in CT they force you to drive on highways to get your license(which anywhere is a deal breaker for me because I just am not capable of doing that) where in NY they don't, so to get the license I need to get it in NY before LS.

Gotcha, but Ferris...you took the LSAT. And I'll guarantee that that is a far more daunting experience than the road test haha

Yeah most people I ask say that and I know you're being genuine, but I also have ADD(actually diagnosed) and honestly think I'm not capable of doing it. I'd say a majority of people I know who do drive in NY i know feel the same way about the highway and they're far more gunho about driving in general than I am. Have you seen the Merritt parkway, as much as I hated the LSAT, I'd rather take the test than go down that death trap?

You can't do it even on medication? What do you take?

[Ferrisjso]

This is so ridiculous. So youre planning on walking/PTing everywhere (while living in CT) for the rest of your life until you can afford to Uber everywhere??

You highlighted a sentence where I said I was going to get a license this comment makes no sense.

So you would rather drive local in NYC than drive on highways in CT. You seem a little confused.

*I thought you meant law license lol

Lmfao about the license thing.

No, you misunderstood. I'd rather drive local in CT, but apparently in CT they force you to drive on highways to get your license(which anywhere is a deal breaker for me because I just am not capable of doing that) where in NY they don't, so to get the license I need to get it in NY before LS.

Gotcha, but Ferris...you took the LSAT. And I'll guarantee that that is a far more daunting experience than the road test haha

Yeah most people I ask say that and I know you're being genuine, but I also have ADD(actually diagnosed) and honestly think I'm not capable of doing it. I'd say a majority of people I know who do drive in NY i know feel the same way about the highway and they're far more gunho about driving in general than I am. Have you seen the Merritt parkway, as much as I hated the LSAT, I'd rather take the test than go down that death trap?

You can't do it even on medication? What do you take?

Sorry im not posting that here. I can do normal driving with medication but not there's no way it would help with the highway.

[Pragmatic Gun]

Hmm. I think the ADHD explains a lot about this thread.

[beforethelaw]

Ferris, I think you're also forgetting that your environment is what you make of it. I had a huge falling out with my family senior year of college (I went to school in a different state), so it was hard to move back to NYC and deal with that shit. What I did learn is that a lot of the time, you're in control (barring unforeseeable circumstances outside of your obvious control). You can control the toxicity of your environment by removing negative people and adding whoever you want. While I do think you would be doing yourself a great service by taking a few years off and really figuring out what you want to do, I don't think you should be writing off an affordable option because of a potentially toxic environment. At the end of the day, NYC as a person under 22 is a lot different than it is when you're older and on your own. You might end up really liking it and growing as a person. At least with Cardozo, you're giving yourself some options of mobility. If you do UConn or QU, you're going to be stuck. I'm sure if you wanted a job in CT afterwards, especially in politics or government, I can see how using ties to CT can help you get there. Also a shit ton of people retire in CT, I'm sure you can find an old alum to help you out.

I think this is good advice if the only thing you don't like about NYC is the social environment. If on the other hand you are sick of being in a massive city surrounded by skyscrapers it's different.

Do you mind being more specific about why you don't like NY? I think this is a critical point here. If it is something you could never move beyond, then it sounds like the best move is to shoot for UCONN next year (or this year if you absolutely have to).

Additionally, if you just want to (and have to) get out of NYC, maybe consider applying to some other T2s this cycle? I know it's late, but you could also retake the June lsat. If you don't improve in June, then just go this year or forget law school. If you do improve you may get better offers from schools that have already waitlisted or accepted you. If you improve and dont get better offers, reapply next cycle.

I am sick of both, I really dislike Manhattan in general although Cardozo is near my favorite part of NYC. Absolutely love hanging out near the water in NYC. Yeah with Manhattan it's more the skyscrapers and the sheer amount of people but for the rest of NYC it's more I just want to escape my life. Thanks for your question I should have been more clear. I'm aware Cardozo gives me options of mobility but I don't really like using PT to get places every day(I'd prefer walking a few miles if I had to choose) and even if I stay in NYC I wouldn't want to stay in Manhattan long term. If I go in CT I'm going to try and get a license in NY first because they don't force people to drive on the highway. Thanks for your insight on trying to get into CT from Dozo I appreciate it. You've been one of the most helpful people on this thread same with Rigo and that other poster who's name escapes me.

This makes the decision easy, then. I would choose Cardozo in your shoes. You can practice in any non-manhattan part of NYC, where tbh it will be easier to find work anyway with less competition from t13/fordham. And your life will change when you get LS. There will be a bunch of new people and you can reinvent yourself a bit. So don't worry about "escaping your life." This should be easy enough to do. Plus, Cardozo is in your favorite part of NYC!

Driving shouldn't be a concern. Just take some lessons. 16 year olds do it everywhere else in the country so you will be fine.

[Stylnator]

Hmm. I think the ADHD explains a lot about this thread.

[emmbeegee]

Since tons of people have already given great advice about avoiding dumpster fires and evaluating employment, I'm just going to chime in about getting your license in NY. The road test site in Red Hook involves turning left onto an unmarked two-way street. A ton of my friends auto-failed by assuming it was one way (because there is no line) and proceeding to drive on the wrong side of the road. Don't do that.

Also, I'm a native New Yorker, didn't get my license until I was 21. But I learned to drive when I was 16 and put 1,800 miles on my car before taking my road test. I understand completely about not needing to drive and relying on the MTA, even in the outer boroughs (minus Staten Island, obviously), but driving is a pretty basic life skill for the vast majority of people. Unless you're going to school in NYC, Boston, Chicago, or DC, you're going to need to drive.

[kalvano]

Oh for fucks sake - ADD? That seems to be the excuse for everything these days.

[Nebby]

I've never heard of ADD so severe that someone is incapable of driving

[Nebby]

Highway driving is way less stressful than city driving anyways imo.

Yeah how the fuck is this even a thing. Highway driving is the best driving and city driving is the worst.

I don't live in Manhattan I live in an outer borough. I don't know anyone who drives in Manhattan but in the rest of NYC people still mostly drive.

Maybe in Staten Island? There's literally millions of people in Bronx, Queens, Brooklyn that don't own a car

[Pragmatic Gun]

Highway driving is way less stressful than city driving anyways imo.

Yeah how the fuck is this even a thing. Highway driving is the best driving and city driving is the worst.

I don't live in Manhattan I live in an outer borough. I don't know anyone who drives in Manhattan but in the rest of NYC people still mostly drive.

Maybe in Staten Island? There's literally millions of people in Bronx, Queens, Brooklyn that don't own a car

+1. ferris, I didn't want to be rude, but I agree with nebby that aDHD can't be that bad that you can't drive. I feel like this thread has been an utter waste of time.

[Npret]

Maybe you can find a friend/ classmate with a car to carpool to and from school. Just share gas. You can get to Hartford from NYC by train or by bus (though slow and makes stops( You can also take cabs in Hartford. Hartford also has buses.

I don't think transportation is the issue here.

After being in Connecticut you can learn to drive and get your license there. It should be easier than the city. Driving on the Merritt Parkway is scary. But not everything is the Merritt Parkway.

My odds are that you won't go at all anywhere and stay home another years. It might be best because you seem to overwhelmed by life to succeed in school right now.

I still think you should just apply for jobs in Hartford. There are many solid companies there. Then go to law school. Get out of NY. You can always go back. It's not that far.

[Pragmatic Gun]

Maybe you can find a friend/ classmate with a car to carpool to and from school. Just share gas. You can get to Hartford from NYC by train or by bus (though slow and makes stops( You can also take cabs in Hartford. Hartford also has buses.

I don't think transportation is the issue here.

After being in Connecticut you can learn to drive and get your license there. It should be easier than the city.

Have you read the thread? He's making up problems and he's unsure about his life goals.

[Npret]

Maybe you can find a friend/ classmate with a car to carpool to and from school. Just share gas. You can get to Hartford from NYC by train or by bus (though slow and makes stops( You can also take cabs in Hartford. Hartford also has buses.

I don't think transportation is the issue here.

After being in Connecticut you can learn to drive and get your license there. It should be easier than the city.

Have you read the thread? He's making up problems and he's unsure about his life goals.

Sporadically.
But his issue boils down to unhappiness with his family and life. He doesn't need law school or a drivers license to get away. He just needs a job.

[Pragmatic Gun]

Maybe you can find a friend/ classmate with a car to carpool to and from school. Just share gas. You can get to Hartford from NYC by train or by bus (though slow and makes stops( You can also take cabs in Hartford. Hartford also has buses.

I don't think transportation is the issue here.

After being in Connecticut you can learn to drive and get your license there. It should be easier than the city.

Have you read the thread? He's making up problems and he's unsure about his life goals.

Sporadically.
But his issue boils down to unhappiness with his family and life. He doesn't need law school or a drivers license to get away. He just needs a job.

Exactly. We can't help him with that. This already one of the longest threads in "Choosing a Law School," and we have gone nowhere. I say we let this thread die.