2013 Rankings Forum

soj · Post by **soj** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:31 pm

neonx wrote:Stanford Law is going crazy about the rankings right now!

SO PUMPED.

all in good fun

but the movie was supposed to be set at chicago and harvard snatched it up trying to use lay prestige to distract people from the diluted faculty. the only reason harvard is ranked so high is lay prestige, yale because all the peer reputation scorers went there for law school, stanford because it benefits from california's low bar passage rate (did you know US News punishes schools in states with easy exams like Illinois?!), and columbia--well, it's just a matter of time before chicago leaps over them. based on my quick number crunching, i'd say about about 80% chance it leaps over CLS next year, 5% it leaps over SLS and HLS.

NZA · Post by **NZA** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:31 pm

The (fucking awful) brief I'm (not) writing right now may be the sole reason for M's drop.

I take full responsibility.

moneybagsphd · Post by **moneybagsphd** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:32 pm

Detailed Michigan Info anyone?

llachans · Post by **llachans** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:32 pm

I can't see some of the info on the chart because i don't have an account with the Law School Compass. Could someone be so kind to post the last column (Graduates known to be employed after 9 months) for those of us who can't see it? Or could someone be so kind to PM me and I'll let you know the handful of schools I'm curious about?

Thanks!

thexfactor · Post by **thexfactor** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:33 pm

Bronck wrote:
illini22 wrote:Illinois numebers please. Im curious as to what numbers were used and how much we got punished in score.
Illinois:
Score 64
Peer assessment score (out of 5) 3.1
Assessment score by lawyers/judges (out of 5) 3.8
GPA (25th-75th percentile) 3.38-3.85
Median undergraduate GPA for all program entrants 3.70
LSAT scores (25th-75th percentile) 156-168
Median LSAT score for all program entrants 163
Graduates known to be employed nine months after graduation 87.2%

wait a min... isn't that wrong?

JusticeHarlan · Post by **JusticeHarlan** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:33 pm

Jaeger wrote:So...

the purpose of this thread is to comment on why the rankings don't matter and if you say anything else, you're attacked?

So then, why the thread?

Teh lulz, obvi

skers · Post by **skers** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:33 pm

moneybagsphd wrote:Detailed Michigan Info anyone?

Look back like three pages ago dude.

Bronck · Post by **Bronck** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:33 pm

Gail wrote:WFU and I'll leave, thanks!

WFU:
Score 59
Peer assessment score (out of 5) 3.1
Assessment score by lawyers/judges (out of 5) 3.7
GPA (25th-75th percentile) 3.2-3.8
Median undergraduate GPA for all program entrants 3.60
LSAT scores (25th-75th percentile) 160-164
Median LSAT score for all program entrants 163
Graduates known to be employed nine months after graduation 83.2%

josh43299 · Post by **josh43299** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:34 pm

Does anyone know where I can find the U.S. News guidelines that they were trying to get adopted for employment? Can anyone verify that some of these schools chose to adopt these guidelines (be more honest)? From what I am seeing there is a disparity that makes absolutely no sense with employment... schools like UNC and WUSTL got fucked when you look at medians/reputation scores/etc. I am guessing this means that they were the more honest of the bunch. Some of these fluctuations looks like absolute nonsense compared to the changes in prior years.

ph14 · Post by **ph14** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:35 pm

Can someone find the average rankings of the T-14 over the past 10 years (or something similar)? I know i've seen something like that floating around, can't find it though.

DevilDaze · Post by **DevilDaze** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:35 pm

BU Info please

PinkRevolver · Post by **PinkRevolver** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:36 pm

Blindmelon wrote:lol at GW (56%) and Emory having below 60% employment rates and being ranked well above Fordham, BU, BC. What the hell are these rankings supposed to measure anyway?

My thoughts exactly!!

WonkyPanda · Post by **WonkyPanda** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:36 pm

Data on Boalt, please!

mattviphky · Post by **mattviphky** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:36 pm

thexfactor wrote:
Bronck wrote:
illini22 wrote:Illinois numebers please. Im curious as to what numbers were used and how much we got punished in score.
Illinois:
Score 64
Peer assessment score (out of 5) 3.1
Assessment score by lawyers/judges (out of 5) 3.8
GPA (25th-75th percentile) 3.38-3.85
Median undergraduate GPA for all program entrants 3.70
LSAT scores (25th-75th percentile) 156-168
Median LSAT score for all program entrants 163
Graduates known to be employed nine months after graduation 87.2%

wait a min... isn't that wrong?

No. They had reported a MEDIAN of 168

jsmith201 · Post by **jsmith201** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:37 pm

Thanks Bronck...you made my evening!

rad lulz · Post by **rad lulz** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:37 pm

flyingduck · Post by **flyingduck** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:37 pm

Looks like Illinois dropped off the deep end. 23=>35

Big Shrimpin · Post by **Big Shrimpin** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:37 pm

ph14 wrote:Can someone find the average rankings of the T-14 over the past 10 years (or something similar)? I know i've seen something like that floating around, can't find it though.

I've got the link on my comp but poasting on iPhone now. Will poast tomorrow if nobody else finds it.

Bronck · Post by **Bronck** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:38 pm

DevilDaze wrote:BU Info please

BU:
Score 67
Peer assessment score (out of 5) 3.4
Assessment score by lawyers/judges (out of 5) 3.8
GPA (25th-75th percentile) 3.5-3.78
Median undergraduate GPA for all program entrants 3.72
LSAT scores (25th-75th percentile) 163-167
Median LSAT score for all program entrants 167
Graduates known to be employed nine months after graduation 86.8%

Post by **romothesavior** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:38 pm

chimp wrote:Wustl got pwned

For being the only school in our range to report employment data according to new ABA standards. USNWR doesn't give a shit about vetting that process. We knew we were gonna fall, and I'm glad we did for all the right reasons. Our stats may still be inflated a bit, but we are doing the right thing and moving in the right direction. This has zero impact on the school or our hiring, and once the ABA cracks the whip on everyone else we will be back up to where we belong.

And I think I speak for everyone at the school on this one. No one is losing any sleep over it and we all understand and appreciate the reason for the drop.

pret · Post by **pret** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:39 pm

Thank you Bronck!

Some schools really plummeted. Look at W&M.

PinkRevolver · Post by **PinkRevolver** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:39 pm

InGoodFaith wrote:
TTRansfer wrote:
col.faith wrote:What did UW do to deserve the 10-spot climb? Bribed usnews? With BU,BC,Fordham all clustered around 30, the ranking outside the T14 is becoming more arbitrary every year.
BC and BU seem to be really low for the solid numbers they seem to have for employment.
Must be their lack of adequate library space.

Lmaooo. Cooley Logic.

moneybagsphd · Post by **moneybagsphd** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:39 pm

TemporarySaint wrote:
moneybagsphd wrote:Detailed Michigan Info anyone?
Look back like three pages ago dude.

assessment scores?

FinallyGoing · Post by **FinallyGoing** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:39 pm

UNLV and ASU please.

TLS_noobie · Post by **TLS_noobie** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:40 pm

PinkRevolver wrote:
InGoodFaith wrote:
TTRansfer wrote:
col.faith wrote:What did UW do to deserve the 10-spot climb? Bribed usnews? With BU,BC,Fordham all clustered around 30, the ranking outside the T14 is becoming more arbitrary every year.
BC and BU seem to be really low for the solid numbers they seem to have for employment.
Must be their lack of adequate library space.

Lmaooo. Cooley Logic.

No...it is because of their crap websites obviously...

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