If I plan to practice in Texas...A&M or LSU? Forum

[AveryTolar]

Sounds like I've been reading too much Baylor recruitment material. I considered Waco a major negative but I had always thought the two schools were not too far from each other in terms of quality and prestige.

[Nomo]

Neither. Someone mentioned that for whatever reason you can't retake. If that's the case then just don't go. There are other ways to use your talents in this world. It might take some time to find them, but its better than wasting 3 years and a bunch of money on law school - not getting a legal job where you want/need to live and going back to the drawing board.

[bound]

op wants to practice corporate law
what part of this are you not getting

smu bl+fc = 24.3%

if i was looking at dentists to get my teeth pulled
and a dentist offered a promotion where i'd get the surgery done for free
but with only a 24.3% success rate
i wouldn't make an appointment

what part of this are you not getting

1. read the last line of my post.
2. read the first and second lines of my post.
3. compare
4. profit

If I was looking at dentists to get my teeth pulled, and there was only a 42.3% success rate, (ut's bl+fc) i also wouldn't make an appointment. Then again, getting your teeth pulled at a dentist is pretty senseless. TLDR: what a stupid analogy.

Yes of course, for corporate law alone, the chances are very, very slim. And even at UT, you could say that a very, very significant portion of that 42.3% would not get "corporate law in the oil and gas field in Texas". That's obviously a narrow goal. But would a 0L, like yourself? know exactly what s/he wanted to do? The point is that, after taking a significant scholly, the exits aren't so bad that OP would end up empty-handed.

wtf are you talking about you imbecile
dentists pull teeth all the time
and i didn't tell op to go to UT, i just said not to go to SMU
god you're thick, you're not even reading
further, your cherry picking statistics is sad and pathetic
esp bc the aim is to trick the op into going to a school that doesn't help him achieve his goals

you're the worst kind of poster
clearly not even taking the time to read the posts carefully
stop spewing idiocy all over the forum and go away

So I usually don't dignify these sorts of posts, but since Brut PMed moments ago...for attention? this bro be mad...

So I'll respond very specifically. There are two reasons why that was a stupid analogy. First, you don't go to a dentist for a % chance to get your teeth pulled. You go to a dentist for a % chance to save a tooth from being pulled. Second, if going to a better school increases my chance of having a meaningless surgical procedure by 18%... you get the point. Stupid analogy.

The reason why I included UT is because it's on the premise that going to UT is not a unfathomable idea. I assumed you would accept that, and indeed you affirm it. Now, if OP is considering a school like A&M or LSU, perhaps getting a scholly from UT is a stretch. Wouldn't you agree? But if OP can reach the more feasible goal of getting a very large scholly from a school like SMU, whose employment prospects aren't so bad, I stated above that it was worth considering.What you wrote, apart from being largely incomprehensible, commits two glaring mistakes. It subscribes to the 0L belief that his/her 0L law school mission will actually be the end result. And it ignores, once more, my emphasis that SMU only makes real sense if significant scholarship can be gotten (though, of course, we don't know OP's financial situation). I have no idea why you think I've cherry-picked statistics. I've taken your stats exactly as they were presented.

Now, take a deep breath Brut. Don't sh*t yourself. I've responded to each of your points, so respond to mine so I can better assess whether you're worth my attention--you're a 0L aren't you?

SMU gives out like 3 full rides total to the entire incoming class, and any scholarships over $90K have a top 1/3 stip.

sooo.. there's that.

[busted]

Plenty of A&M grads work in O&G. Unfortunately it's bottom rung work which is basically doc review for O&G. It pays roughly the same as doc review and includes roughly the same opportunities for promotion. The probability that you go from A&M to XTO in-house or Haynes Boone in Fort Worth is extremely minimal (although it happens once or twice a year) unless you have family connections that can secure a spot for you.

I won't agree with comments above that A&M is never a good idea but it's definitely not the right path for OP unless he or she has a guaranteed spot in biglaw but it doesn't sound like that is the case.

For people who might be banking on an A&M JD turning into a quality degree, good luck. A&M might improve the quality of the education in the near future but for now it has mostly left the old Wesleyan system intact. Job numbers might improve marginally in the near future as the A&M alumni system embraces the law school and tries to help the JDs get jobs but I would not oversell the power of A&M undergrad alumni to sway big and mid firms to hire out of a bottom rung law school. Any serious improvement will be long term and incremental. A&M isn't doing itself any favors by treating its Wesleyan alumni as second tier alumni and isolating themselves from the local small firms where A&M grads could gain placement.

[SPerez]

If I am planning on practicing corporate law in the oil and gas field in Texas, would I be better off attending LSU or A&M? Any opinions are much appreciated.

OP, out of curiosity why did you pick these two particular schools? Seems a little random for your average Texan student, who would like others have pointed out, more likely asked about two or three different Texas schools and possibly even Oklahoma (which has a strong oil and gas program).

Dean Perez

[Ti Malice]

A&M will slowly rise to the reputable powerhouse of UT in the upcoming years. Give it time, it was recently re-branded.

lol

Pardon me -- just had to re-LOL at this.