NYTimes Article About Law School Scholarships Forum

[Ignatius Reilly]

As the article pointed out, its a damn shame that need-based aid dropped while merit scholarships skyrocketed...just another case of the have's vs. the have-not's

That has nothing to do with the have's and the have-not's.....it has to do with those who earned money and those who did not. The have's dont get mertit aid, unless they deserve it.

[Hannibal]

As the article pointed out, its a damn shame that need-based aid dropped while merit scholarships skyrocketed...just another case of the have's vs. the have-not's

That has nothing to do with the have's and the have-not's.....it has to do with those who earned money and those who did not. The have's dont get mertit aid, unless they deserve it.

...No.

[Patriot1208]

As the article pointed out, its a damn shame that need-based aid dropped while merit scholarships skyrocketed...just another case of the have's vs. the have-not's

No it's not. This isn't undergrad, virtually everyone is in the same need for tuition. Very few of those going to law school can afford it without significant debt. This is why graduate programs focus on merit based

[northwood]

While most people on TLS know that law school has a grading curve- and if you were offered a scholarship that had a gpa stip- it would be imperitive that you did some research before accepting the award. However-im sure the vast majority of applicants are either unaware of this- or assume that they will keep the scholarship.You also have to acknowledge that its pretty hard to predict law school success.
Basically- you have to remember that this is a financial investment and a business decision for you. Just as you should research each school on your list- you should research the cost and requirements to maintain any awards you were granted.

Also- i think the fact that you can only work 20 hours a week at most for 1L makes a vast majority of applicants qualify for need based aid.

[Bildungsroman]

I was under the impression that most of the top schools gave their scholarships without stipulations....is this not the case?

AFAIK all the top 20 schools only have something like "academic good standing" as a requirement, which is usually a 2.5 or a 2.0.

[prezidentv8]

its pretty hard to predict law school success.

this.

[romothesavior]

While there's no doubt that this kind of thing royally sucks for those who lose their scholarships, I think most people who fall below the GPA-cutoff for scholly stips at T2s and T3s would be better served by dropping out anyways. Below median or below top 1/3 or something at an expensive T2/T3? You probably were screwed before they took your scholly.

[overunderachiever]

As the article pointed out, its a damn shame that need-based aid dropped while merit scholarships skyrocketed...just another case of the have's vs. the have-not's

No it's not. This isn't undergrad, virtually everyone is in the same need for tuition. Very few of those going to law school can afford it without significant debt. This is why graduate programs focus on merit based

If virtually everyone is in the same need for tuition than there would be no need-based aid at all. While it may be true that many graduates will come out with significant debt, I think more money should go to those who will have the most trouble paying off that debt and not to those graduates who will work for daddy's firm.

[prezidentv8]

As the article pointed out, its a damn shame that need-based aid dropped while merit scholarships skyrocketed...just another case of the have's vs. the have-not's

No it's not. This isn't undergrad, virtually everyone is in the same need for tuition. Very few of those going to law school can afford it without significant debt. This is why graduate programs focus on merit based

If virtually everyone is in the same need for tuition than there would be no need-based aid at all. While it may be true that many graduates will come out with significant debt, I think more money should go to those who will have the most trouble paying off that debt and not to those graduates who will work for daddy's firm.

To my knowledge, there really isn't a whole lot of these. Although there are more people who have help paying for school than I thought.

[Ignatius Reilly]

As the article pointed out, its a damn shame that need-based aid dropped while merit scholarships skyrocketed...just another case of the have's vs. the have-not's

No it's not. This isn't undergrad, virtually everyone is in the same need for tuition. Very few of those going to law school can afford it without significant debt. This is why graduate programs focus on merit based

If virtually everyone is in the same need for tuition than there would be no need-based aid at all. While it may be true that many graduates will come out with significant debt, I think more money should go to those who will have the most trouble paying off that debt and not to those graduates who will work for daddy's firm.

So basically money should go to those who are below median? That's reverse merit aid

[romothesavior]

As the article pointed out, its a damn shame that need-based aid dropped while merit scholarships skyrocketed...just another case of the have's vs. the have-not's

No it's not. This isn't undergrad, virtually everyone is in the same need for tuition. Very few of those going to law school can afford it without significant debt. This is why graduate programs focus on merit based

If virtually everyone is in the same need for tuition than there would be no need-based aid at all. While it may be true that many graduates will come out with significant debt, I think more money should go to those who will have the most trouble paying off that debt and not to those graduates who will work for daddy's firm.

Straw man is straw.

[Hannibal]

If virtually everyone is in the same need for tuition than there would be no need-based aid at all. While it may be true that many graduates will come out with significant debt, I think more money should go to those who will have the most trouble paying off that debt and not to those graduates who will work for daddy's firm.

So basically money should go to those who are below median? That's reverse merit aid

Both of these posts are terrible.

[overunderachiever]

As the article pointed out, its a damn shame that need-based aid dropped while merit scholarships skyrocketed...just another case of the have's vs. the have-not's

No it's not. This isn't undergrad, virtually everyone is in the same need for tuition. Very few of those going to law school can afford it without significant debt. This is why graduate programs focus on merit based

If virtually everyone is in the same need for tuition than there would be no need-based aid at all. While it may be true that many graduates will come out with significant debt, I think more money should go to those who will have the most trouble paying off that debt and not to those graduates who will work for daddy's firm.

Straw man is straw.

Haha, well played.

[Zabini]

The closest others come to that is fundraising for their UG, which most grad programs are in the first place.

Exactly. If the law school is being used primarily as a profit center to fund the university's other activities, then it is for most intents and purposes the same as a for-profit school.

[09042014]

As the article pointed out, its a damn shame that need-based aid dropped while merit scholarships skyrocketed...just another case of the have's vs. the have-not's

No it's not. This isn't undergrad, virtually everyone is in the same need for tuition. Very few of those going to law school can afford it without significant debt. This is why graduate programs focus on merit based

Merit aid is horrible too. A 3.9/172 is worth giving 150K to attend over a 3.9/168. REALLY? No. That's fucking retarded.

[whymeohgodno]

As the article pointed out, its a damn shame that need-based aid dropped while merit scholarships skyrocketed...just another case of the have's vs. the have-not's

No it's not. This isn't undergrad, virtually everyone is in the same need for tuition. Very few of those going to law school can afford it without significant debt. This is why graduate programs focus on merit based

Merit aid is horrible too. A 3.9/172 is worth giving 150K to attend over a 3.9/168. REALLY? No. That's fucking retarded.

+1

Combination of merit/need is probably the best.

[09042014]

As the article pointed out, its a damn shame that need-based aid dropped while merit scholarships skyrocketed...just another case of the have's vs. the have-not's

No it's not. This isn't undergrad, virtually everyone is in the same need for tuition. Very few of those going to law school can afford it without significant debt. This is why graduate programs focus on merit based

Merit aid is horrible too. A 3.9/172 is worth giving 150K to attend over a 3.9/168. REALLY? No. That's fucking retarded.

+1

Combination of merit/need is probably the best.

How about just charging a lesser tuition rate.

[prezidentv8]

How about just charging a lesser tuition rate.

[drdolittle]

How about just charging a lesser tuition rate.

[northwood]

How about just charging a lesser tuition rate.

that would be both too easy and too sensible

[joemoviebuff]

How about just charging a lesser tuition rate.

What a novel idea.

[overunderachiever]

How about just charging a lesser tuition rate.[/quote]

If we totally got rid of scholarships, then that could happen!

[09042014]

How about just charging a lesser tuition rate.

If we totally got rid of scholarships, then that could happen!

Yea that's pretty much my point.

[whymeohgodno]

How about just charging a lesser tuition rate.

If we totally got rid of scholarships, then that could happen!

Yea that's pretty much my point.

But then schools will have a harder time raising/maintaining medians.

[09042014]

How about just charging a lesser tuition rate.

If we totally got rid of scholarships, then that could happen!

Yea that's pretty much my point.

But then schools will have a harder time raising/maintaining medians.

Michigan has a 167 LSAT median instead of 168? OH the HUMANITY!