everywhere in America? Forum

[mz253]

well, regarding human rights... i think it's difficult for a Chinese to debate with an American because we are standing in different grounds, and seeing each other as stupid and ridiculous.

hmm,,, i've lived in both countries. it really depends on where you are and what you look for. one is not necessarily better than the other.

if you are anti-abortion, human rights activist, then stay away from china. if you just want to make money and become famous asap, then go to china. haha

Why anyone would want to leave China's economy, which grows at 10% annually even when the govt deflates the currency and tries to stall growth, is beyond me.

good thing that the economic growth rate is what makes a country a good place to live. sweet analysis

what i love is that half the people on here who would move somewhere despite a dismal human rights record in order to "make money and become famous asap" will probably write a human rights oriented PS.

[Veyron]

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[mz253]

1. your comments just proved what i said.. (i didn't mention my attitude towards human rights at all, so what assumption you made when you made the following statement?)

2. if you admit you are a loser because you don't get into yale law school, then i think i failed the LSAT. Please be in a more impressive school than UPenn to judge me.

^ You're a shitstain on humanity if you think that there is nothing objectively wrong with China's human rights record but I guess I wouldn't expect better from someone who failed the LSAT.

[Veyron]

failed the LSAT? hmm...

if you admit you are a loser because you don't get into yale law school, then i think i failed the LSAT. You are in UPenn right? You'd better be in a more impressive school to judge me.

^ You're a shitstain on humanity if you think that there is nothing objectively wrong with China's human rights record but I guess I wouldn't expect better from someone who failed the LSAT.

Dude, I'm just glad you aren't smart enough to have any position of the influence over the world. Enjoy whatever TTT you end up at and a lifetime of debt. Fucking Communist apologist.

[MrKappus]

lifetime of debt

You talk a real big game for someone who hasn't even gotten any 1L grades yet, let alone a market-paying firm job.

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[Sandro]

Veyron is one of the more annoying trolls on this forum. I'm fine with trolls if they at least contribute something semi worthwhile every so often. Still waiting on that from Veyron.

[AreJay711]

Why anyone would want to leave China's economy, which grows at 10% annually even when the govt deflates the currency and tries to stall growth, is beyond me.

Proof people on here blather out foolishness. GDP per Capita in China is lower than Mexico...would you want to go to law school in Mexico? $45,000 a year is way way more than a vast cast majority of people in China make. Plus devaluing currency makes the economy grow by making exports cheaper. You sir or madam know less about the economy than half the people on here know about law schools. My confidence in this site is ruined.

[MrKappus]

Why anyone would want to leave China's economy, which grows at 10% annually even when the govt deflates the currency and tries to stall growth, is beyond me.

Proof people on here blather out foolishness. GDP per Capita in China is lower than Mexico...would you want to go to law school in Mexico? $45,000 a year is way way more than a vast cast majority of people in China make. Plus devaluing currency makes the economy grow by making exports cheaper. You sir or madam know less about the economy than half the people on here know about law schools. My confidence in this site is ruined.

GDP per capita is a stupid measure of wealth in this situation. You're...not smart.

Edit: that said, you got me on wording. Should've said "devalues the currency," or "imposes deflationary pressure."

[motiontodismiss]

Why anyone would want to leave China's economy, which grows at 10% annually even when the govt deflates the currency and tries to stall growth, is beyond me.

Why anyone would want to live there, with their $7k GDP per capita, is beyond me.

[mz253]

well, what you are missing is with a JD from an american school law school (Tier2 and above), you're looking for 80k USD to start. And think about living in China with a salary of 80K.

If you don't want to buy an apartment (which will cost you half million $ nowadays), you are in heaven.

Why anyone would want to leave China's economy, which grows at 10% annually even when the govt deflates the currency and tries to stall growth, is beyond me.

Proof people on here blather out foolishness. GDP per Capita in China is lower than Mexico...would you want to go to law school in Mexico? $45,000 a year is way way more than a vast cast majority of people in China make. Plus devaluing currency makes the economy grow by making exports cheaper. You sir or madam know less about the economy than half the people on here know about law schools. My confidence in this site is ruined.

[IAFG]

well, what you are missing is with a JD from an american school law school (Tier2 and above), you're looking for 80k USD to start. And think about living in China with a salary of 80K.

Wait... What?

[sophia.olive]

well, what you are missing is with a JD from an american school law school (Tier2 and above), you're looking for 80k USD to start. And think about living in China with a salary of 80K.

Wait... What?

Housing is way redic in China. Anyways, Americans kill way more people each year than the Chinese dont let that ethnocentric ass bother you.

I mean opium wars, ww2, .................. read a history book or something before you start talking about morality.

[Noval]

well, what you are missing is with a JD from an american school law school (Tier2 and above), you're looking for 80k USD to start. And think about living in China with a salary of 80K. If you don't want to buy an apartment (which will cost you half million $ nowadays), you are in heaven.

Why anyone would want to leave China's economy, which grows at 10% annually even when the govt deflates the currency and tries to stall growth, is beyond me.

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GOOD LUCK in finding a position in cities such as Hong Kong, Shanghai and other big asian centers coming from a T2 or above school.

An asian recruiter that came at our Law School in my third year told me that they were mainly looking for people with both EXCELLENT written/oral skills in Chinese and English.He also told me that they usually go recruit at TOP SCHOOLS only and that there are too many qualified candidates to go look at lower ranked schools.So before you think about Asian BigLaw, start by working your ass off to go to a top school or start networking NOW.Not trying to be a douchebag here, just welcoming you to the real world.

[mz253]

never said it's guaranteed. but do know several people end up doing well coming from lower T1 schools. not thinking about asian biglaw at all.

well, what you are missing is with a JD from an american school law school (Tier2 and above), you're looking for 80k USD to start. And think about living in China with a salary of 80K. If you don't want to buy an apartment (which will cost you half million $ nowadays), you are in heaven.

Why anyone would want to leave China's economy, which grows at 10% annually even when the govt deflates the currency and tries to stall growth, is beyond me.

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GOOD LUCK in finding a position in cities such as Hong Kong, Shanghai and other big asian centers coming from a T2 or above school.

An asian recruiter that came at our Law School in my third year told me that they were mainly looking for people with both EXCELLENT written/oral skills in Chinese and English.He also told me that they usually go recruit at TOP SCHOOLS only and that there are too many qualified candidates to go look at lower ranked schools.So before you think about Asian BigLaw, start by working your ass off to go to a top school or start networking NOW.Not trying to be a douchebag here, just welcoming you to the real world.

[AreJay711]

Why anyone would want to leave China's economy, which grows at 10% annually even when the govt deflates the currency and tries to stall growth, is beyond me.

Proof people on here blather out foolishness. GDP per Capita in China is lower than Mexico...would you want to go to law school in Mexico? $45,000 a year is way way more than a vast cast majority of people in China make. Plus devaluing currency makes the economy grow by making exports cheaper. You sir or madam know less about the economy than half the people on here know about law schools. My confidence in this site is ruined.

GDP per capita is a stupid measure of wealth in this situation. You're...not smart.

Edit: that said, you got me on wording. Should've said "devalues the currency," or "imposes deflationary pressure."

What is a better measure of wealth then? Some sort of quality of life ranking? I guarantee China sucks in that regard with information restrictions and smog storms and all that ridiculousness.

[niederbomb]

Chinese citizen, did undergrad in the U.S. In China, you go to law school RIGHT AFTER high school. you don't pay 200k for college and another 200k for law school.

You can get your JD in Hong Kong in just two years at the University of Hong Kong at 1/10th the price of a U.S. law school. And you'd probably have a better chance at finding a job afterwards, too. Singapore has two universities with English postgrad law programs as well. I'd consider these programs myself over U.S. ones if residency wasn't such a huge issue.

It makes me laugh the way people in your country get starry eyed when they think about "going to school in the U.S."

What you don't realize is that while we have the best universities in the world, we also have some of the worst, and unless you go to an ivy league or ivy league equivalent (for anything except medicine), you're wasting your money by coming over here unless it somehow helps you back home more than a HK/Singapore/Canadian degree (I doubt it).

And forget about staying here afterwards. The U.S. has some of the most difficult immigration laws in the world. And we can't even employ all our own law graduates. And also forget about paying off the loans you'd need to take out to attend a U.S. law school on a Chinese, even a Shanghai or HK, legal salary.

[McNulty]

Why study just to study? You're in law school to practice law. The desire to go back to school shouldn't be the main motivator.