Law School Rankings: A new perspective Forum

[BroCHILLOUT]

who the fuck is superlawyers to define success

im still laughing from this one!!!! hahahhahaha!!

[dresden doll]

who the fuck is superlawyers to define success

im still laughing from this one!!!! hahahhahaha!!

What's laughable is your patent trolling. In the alternative, you're laughable for lacking a brain. I'd be willing to bet on the former, however.

[Eric475]

TLS:

I FOUND NEW/DIFFERENT RANKINGS!!!

Yale is not #1 so whatever this is purportedly ranking is stupid and the methodology is flawed. This ranking is stupid and unhelpful.

I think this actually makes a lot of sense. If you want whatever this ranking is ranking, my school is a smart choice.

We need to stop focusing exclusively on USNews because rankings like these can be extremely helpful and offer a fresh insight. Its not that my school is better than Columbia but for some things we are as good as or better than Columbia... as indicated by these completely legitimate rankings that we should keep focusing on

::takes a moment to recover from mind exploding after exposure to new information that challenges the accepted worldview they have been propagating since joining TLS sometime earlier this year:: This is stupid. If you want NYC biglaw, all the statistics that i've seen say go to NYU or Columbia and maybe Chi which is also good for academia and clerkships. That is of course if you can't get into HYS which is good everywhere. Virginia places well in DC. Penn is good for NY. Columbia places better than NYU in other markets. Texas is a much worse school than Georgetown.

One of the funniest posts Ive ever read

[Bronte]

TLS:

I FOUND NEW/DIFFERENT RANKINGS!!!

Yale is not #1 so whatever this is purportedly ranking is stupid and the methodology is flawed. This ranking is stupid and unhelpful.

I think this actually makes a lot of sense. If you want whatever this ranking is ranking, my school is a smart choice.

We need to stop focusing exclusively on USNews because rankings like these can be extremely helpful and offer a fresh insight. Its not that my school is better than Columbia but for some things we are as good as or better than Columbia... as indicated by these completely legitimate rankings that we should keep focusing on

::takes a moment to recover from mind exploding after exposure to new information that challenges the accepted worldview they have been propagating since joining TLS sometime earlier this year:: This is stupid. If you want NYC biglaw, all the statistics that i've seen say go to NYU or Columbia and maybe Chi which is also good for academia and clerkships. That is of course if you can't get into HYS which is good everywhere. Virginia places well in DC. Penn is good for NY. Columbia places better than NYU in other markets. Texas is a much worse school than Georgetown.

One of the funniest posts Ive ever read

Lol, no.

[Warhawk]

Some of you are just mad that the schools that you all are attending right now are being knocked down and that's ok. Reality hurts.

Lets hope you never run into any reality then.

LOL ... look at this guy ... mr. Illinois dropped from 21 to 40... and booom "no no... these rankings dont make ANY sense." REALITY HURTS buddy...

Your name.

It's ironic.

Fortunately, I have other things to do on the internet besides desperately seeking validation of my own existence.

[Regionality]

I do think there should be a new focus in rankings, and it should focus exclusively on how good ones job prospects are by going to a school.

This should be represented by national reach, starting salaries, number of prestigious clerkship's received per capita, and overall flexibility/durability/portability of a degree. It's all that matters, really...

Oh, and then there should be a separate list that re-ranks everything based on how much it costs to attend...you put in the cost of attendance to each school, the rank does some fancy re-calculation of the relative strength based on that price, and then it does a personal ranking....

And Yale should always be #1...

And all the rankings should still pretty much be the same as USNWR...though I bet there would be some minute changes.

[BroCHILLOUT]

Some of you are just mad that the schools that you all are attending right now are being knocked down and that's ok. Reality hurts.

Lets hope you never run into any reality then.

LOL ... look at this guy ... mr. Illinois dropped from 21 to 40... and booom "no no... these rankings dont make ANY sense." REALITY HURTS buddy...

Your name.

It's ironic.

Fortunately, I have other things to do on the internet besides desperately seeking validation of my own existence.

"Fortunately, I(you) have other things to do"... Yet you are here responding to me laughing @ you....
"besides desperately seeking validation of my own existence."... that's asinine, i did no such thing. If anything its you who are doing it by typing your foolish responses.

[clintonius]

Failed flame is failed. It's ok. We understand. No shame in cutting your losses.

[BroCHILLOUT]

who the fuck is superlawyers to define success

[calbears619]

It never hurts to see law schools ranked by different systems as long as one understands the methodology (and accepts that it will inevitably have flaws). Although I can't really imagine a publication called "Super Lawyers" recognizing the lawyers who forgo the salary and prestige of biglaw in favor of public service.

[Chuch]

the most helpful ranking is http://www.lawschool100.com/, imo

[Warhawk]

the most helpful ranking is http://www.lawschool100.com/, imo

Irrespective of whether it's accurate or not, I'm not sure I'd call it "helpful." It's just a list with links to the schools' websites.

OTOH, TLS is actually "helpful."

[Chuch]

its an ordered list. that was the most important feature, imo

[Regionality]

its an ordered list. that was the most important feature, imo

All ranks are ordered. Otherwise it would be the "USNWR Blob of Law Schools"

[Bronte]

The concept of tiering schools is helpful. The actual schools "Law School 100" puts in those tiers is not helpful.

[Chuch]

The concept of tiering schools is helpful. The actual schools "Law School 100" puts in those tiers is not helpful.

why not?

[Regionality]

The concept of tiering schools is helpful. The actual schools "Law School 100" puts in those tiers is not helpful.

why not?

Because it suggests that someone who would rather practice law in DC should go to Minnesota instead of William and Mary because they are separated by 2 whole tiers!

Adding such distinctive blocked tiers implies a greater division between the tiers than actually exists.

[Bronte]

The concept of tiering schools is helpful. The actual schools "Law School 100" puts in those tiers is not helpful.

why not?

Yale below Harvard? Duke in the same tier as USC? University of Texas in the same tier as Minnesota and WashU? "Qualitative, rather than quantitative, criteria"?

[Chuch]

So you find the rankings unhelpful because they don't line up exactly with USNews?

[Bronte]

So you find the rankings unhelpful because they don't line up exactly with USNews?

No.

[gdane]

who the fuck is superlawyers to define success

Who the F* is USNWR to define success? At least "Superlawyers" deals with the legal field. USNWR is a TTT magazine that noone really even reads.

[dresden doll]

who the fuck is superlawyers to define success

Who the F* is USNWR to define success? At least "Superlawyers" deals with the legal field. USNWR is a TTT magazine that noone really even reads.

Except that USNWR rankings correlate with employment prospects and deans practically get shitcanned if their school drops in the hierarchy. But, yeah, apart from law schools, applicants and employers, no one cares about USNWR.

[flyingpanda]

who the fuck is superlawyers to define success

Who the F* is USNWR to define success? At least "Superlawyers" deals with the legal field. USNWR is a TTT magazine that noone really even reads.

Except that USNWR rankings correlate with employment prospects and deans practically get shitcanned if their school drops in the hierarchy. But, yeah, apart from law schools, applicants and employers, no one cares about USNWR.

I approve of any ranking that puts UVA in the top5

[Chuch]

I approve of any ranking that puts UVA in the top5

looks like everyone does except USNews...
http://www.vault.com/wps/portal/usa/blo ... y_id=10864

[Bronte]

I approve of any ranking that puts UVA in the top5

looks like everyone does except USNews...
http://www.vault.com/wps/portal/usa/blo ... y_id=10864

What you've linked to is a very flawed methodology, verging on the absurd. To top it off, the data isn't even entered correctly. When was Texas ever 3rd on the NLJ survey?