2013 Rankings Forum

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[Big Shrimpin]

Need MOAR data on GW.

[allmodcons]

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[ahnhub]

I think they changed their employment % methodology so that people seeking another degree or not seeking work are now counted in the denominator.

Also, the employment % is skewed by how heavily schools used short-term law-school funded fellowships. I know UVA and Georgetown had 10+% in such fellowships, and Penn and NU had around 3-5%. I think most schools had at least a couple.

[eaper]

Who else is editing all their posts that said "YHS" to "YSH"?

[Gail]

The biggest gripe I have with this ranking is the national versus regional designations. To the extent US News has any credibility, it should be in placing schools into these broadly correct tiers, but there is no way St. John's is placing nationally. Nor is Penn State, no matter the Rick Santorum effect.

I think properly applied, those kinds of labels could be useful. A school like Michigan is legitimately national. A school like Wisconsin is legitimately regional. A school like St. John's is local.

blatant mitt romney trolling

[col.faith]

What did UW do to deserve the 10-spot climb? Bribed usnews? With BU,BC,Fordham all clustered around 30, the ranking outside the T14 is becoming more arbitrary every year.

BC and BU seem to be really low for the solid numbers they seem to have for employment.

Must be their lack of adequate library space.

That makes sense; it's too important.

[bandwlover]

Minnesota Law info please

[mattviphky]

UIUC, please!!!

Sending negotiation letter tomorrow.

[kroakstool]

Can I have info on Emory, W&L, and Georgia please?

[20130312]

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[Tiago Splitter]

need some info on WUSTL

WUSTL

Graduates known to be employed nine months after graduation 80.7%

Well, that's horrible.

Romo did mention before that WUSTL was one of the few to adopt the new employment reporting USNews is pushing. Might have really cost them in these rankings.

[JusticeHarlan]

I think they changed their employment % methodology so that people seeking another degree or not seeking work are now counted in the denominator.

They did this last year. Some dean (I think Emory) blamed their drop on it then.

[danquayle]

The biggest gripe I have with this ranking is the national versus regional designations. To the extent US News has any credibility, it should be in placing schools into these broadly correct tiers, but there is no way St. John's is placing nationally. Nor is Penn State, no matter the Rick Santorum effect.

I think properly applied, those kinds of labels could be useful. A school like Michigan is legitimately national. A school like Wisconsin is legitimately regional. A school like St. John's is local.

blatant mitt romney trolling

Mitt wrecked Harvard's peer assessment this year.

[TTRansfer]

What did UW do to deserve the 10-spot climb? Bribed usnews? With BU,BC,Fordham all clustered around 30, the ranking outside the T14 is becoming more arbitrary every year.

BC and BU seem to be really low for the solid numbers they seem to have for employment.

Must be their lack of adequate library space.

That makes sense; it's too important.

Plus, BU's school is ugly as shit.

[Antilles Haven]

Don't you know? You're not cool unless you're mocking other posters for discussing changes in rankings.

+1 STFU Rad Lulz. Everyone gets it.

There's discussing rankings, and then there's questioning whether they'll have an impact on anything substantive. At all. They won't. And if you think they do you're an idiot.

[JDizzle2015]

Does anyone know why Stanford's medians are different from what LSN would make them seem? (http://stanford.lawschoolnumbers.com/stats/1011/)

[Bronck]

Need MOAR data on GW.

GW:
Score 71
Peer assessment score (out of 5) 3.6
Assessment score by lawyers/judges (out of 5) 3.9
GPA (25th-75th percentile) 3.43-3.9
Median undergraduate GPA for all program entrants 3.82
LSAT scores (25th-75th percentile) 161-168
Median LSAT score for all program entrants 167
Graduates known to be employed nine months after graduation 94.3%

[michlaw]

I guess I had better change my name. UVA has the best employment percentage in the legal world? Unlikely.

[20130312]

Does anyone know why Stanford's medians are different from what LSN would make them seem? (http://stanford.lawschoolnumbers.com/stats/1011/)

Because LSN is a non-representative sample.

[TLS_noobie]

Plus, BU's school is ugly as shit.

Tim Gunn is now the chief of ranking at USNWR...

[Dany]

Does anyone know why Stanford's medians are different from what LSN would make them seem? (http://stanford.lawschoolnumbers.com/stats/1011/)

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[Bronck]

To those posting the detailed info- thank you! One more request: Seton Hall

Seton Hall:
Score 48
Peer assessment score (out of 5) 2.5
Assessment score by lawyers/judges (out of 5) 2.9
GPA (25th-75th percentile) 3.22-3.66
Median undergraduate GPA for all program entrants 3.50
LSAT scores (25th-75th percentile) 155-161
Median LSAT score for all program entrants 159
Graduates known to be employed nine months after graduation 85.6%

[teacozy]

W&M please.

Thank you so much for the detailed info!

[stillwater]

To those posting the detailed info- thank you! One more request: Seton Hall

Seton Hall:
Score 48
Peer assessment score (out of 5) 2.5
Assessment score by lawyers/judges (out of 5) 2.9
GPA (25th-75th percentile) 3.22-3.66
Median undergraduate GPA for all program entrants 3.50
LSAT scores (25th-75th percentile) 155-161
Median LSAT score for all program entrants 159
Graduates known to be employed nine months after graduation 85.6%

SH gets you jerbs.