BP decides where you go to law school Forum

[crackberry]

For a friend who wants NYC BigLaw:

Vandy - $10K/year
Fordham - not sure about $$ (not huge $$ though; may even be equal or less than Vandy)
UCLA - sticker

[crackberry]

For another friend who wants Bay Area BigLaw and really wants to live in NYC for a few years/doesn't like Chicago's vibe:

NYU - sticker
Chicago - sticker
Michigan - sticker

[trc332]

Penn 150k
Chicago 75K
NYU 75K

numbers are scholarships... Interested in NYC Big Law. Giving up 90+ paying job to go, so want the quickest return on investment.

[98234872348]

Colorado
George Mason
Wake Forest


1. Which school has better career prospects?
None of these schools have particularly great job prospects; most will probably get you a decent job making ~50-60k per year.
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really? the grads i've talked to from CU didn't graduate in the top 25percent but still got jobs offering 65k, 75k, and 80k first year out. granted, they all went into private firms. is the average really as low as 50k if you go into private practice?

The trouble is, really, getting a job in the first place. While these jobs exist, they are scarce and are extremely difficult to get in this economy without some stellar networking.

I don't know what the average is, but I certainly wouldn't anticipate going into any of those schools that I was pretty certain that I was going to by making 75k a year on graduation.

[NayBoer]

Penn 150k
Chicago 75K
NYU 75K

numbers are scholarships... Interested in NYC Big Law. Giving up 90+ paying job to go, so want the quickest return on investment.

Quickest roi is P. CN safer for actually getting a job. Of those 3 I'd do NYU for NYC.

[98234872348]

Penn 150k
Chicago 75K
NYU 75K

numbers are scholarships... Interested in NYC Big Law. Giving up 90+ paying job to go, so want the quickest return on investment.

If definitely NYC, take NYU.

Excellent work experience will definitely weigh in your favor, if you do moderately well at NYU you'll likely get bites from all over the NYC V100.

[crackberry]

For another friend who wants Bay Area BigLaw and really wants to live in NYC for a few years/doesn't like Chicago's vibe:

NYU - sticker
Chicago - sticker
Michigan - sticker

[crackberry]

Now you're just testing our parameters. Still, in case, NYU.

Haha, no, I'm not. Thanks.

[NayBoer]

Quickest roi is P. CN safer for actually getting a job. Of those 3 I'd do NYU for NYC.

agreed on all counts.

FTR: if you - or someone with similar a situation - didn't care where you'd work, I'd take Chicago.

Same here. I originally wrote that I'd take Chicago.

I edited when I realized he wanted NYC. I don't want NYC and am looking at all markets that aren't NYC or the South.

[trc332]

Thanks for the info.

[98234872348]

For another friend who wants Bay Area BigLaw and really wants to live in NYC for a few years/doesn't like Chicago's vibe:

NYU - sticker
Chicago - sticker
Michigan - sticker

Now you're just testing our parameters. Still, in case, NYU.

I can't imagine why he wouldn't pick NYU in this situation.

[crackberry]

For another friend who wants Bay Area BigLaw and really wants to live in NYC for a few years/doesn't like Chicago's vibe:

NYU - sticker
Chicago - sticker
Michigan - sticker

Now you're just testing our parameters. Still, in case, NYU.

I can't imagine why he wouldn't pick NYU in this situation.

Because by all accounts Chicago has more national reach and even Michigan might place better in Calif. than NYU. I dunno.

[NayBoer]

I ran the NALP employer search for firms in CA doing OCI at NYU. 101 results.

And if you do the NALP school profile, NYU sends 70% to Middle Atlantic (NYC) but still 10% to Pacific (LA/SF), as the second most common region, ahead of South Atlantic (DC) at 8.4%.

[kittenmittons]

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[09042014]

I love this

I thought you died bro. Will you join our cause?

[bigdipper]

fordham - $45K
bu - $60K
cornell - sticker
*$ = total scholarship

goals:
- practice in or near any of the following cities: ny, boston, dc, philadelphia, chicago
- possible biglaw (not a necessity, keeping options open)
- possibly interested in health law (from private industry or gov't perspective)

considerations:
- did undergrad at cornell
- currently working in nyc

[kittenmittons]

I love this

I thought you died bro. Will you join our cause?

Yes

[98234872348]

fordham - $45K
bu - $60K
cornell - sticker
*$ = total scholarship

goals:
- practice in or near any of the following cities: ny, boston, dc, philadelphia, chicago
- possible biglaw (not a necessity, keeping options open)
- possibly interested in health law (from private industry or gov't perspective)

considerations:
- did undergrad at cornell
- currently working in nyc

BU

I don't think the BU scholarship is large enough to justify forgoing Cornell, bro.

[D. H2Oman]

fordham - $45K
bu - $60K
cornell - sticker
*$ = total scholarship

goals:
- practice in or near any of the following cities: ny, boston, dc, philadelphia, chicago
- possible biglaw (not a necessity, keeping options open)
- possibly interested in health law (from private industry or gov't perspective)

considerations:
- did undergrad at cornell
- currently working in nyc

The BU campus sucks, I hate it. 3 More years at Cornell.

[98234872348]

I can't imagine why he wouldn't pick NYU in this situation.

Because by all accounts Chicago has more national reach and even Michigan might place better in Calif. than NYU. I dunno.

I am way too lazy to substantiate my unfounded recommendations based off of sheer speculation and assumption on any sort of logic or statistical evidence, so, take it for what it's worth.

[98234872348]

fordham - $45K
bu - $60K
cornell - sticker
*$ = total scholarship

goals:
- practice in or near any of the following cities: ny, boston, dc, philadelphia, chicago
- possible biglaw (not a necessity, keeping options open)
- possibly interested in health law (from private industry or gov't perspective)

considerations:
- did undergrad at cornell
- currently working in nyc

BU

I don't think the BU scholarship is large enough to justify forgoing Cornell, bro.

I would agree, but if there is interest in Health Law and interest in practicing in Boston, BU with a scholarship is a pretty good deal. This takes into account the ridiculous sum of debt that is Cornell at sticker, and the fact that the asker is not 100% set on BigLaw.

My new default position someone calls into question taking out more debt in order to attend a school with better job prospects is to link them to this: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 1&t=114181

Also, cornell for 200k > BU for 140k, imho and forever.

[ihurtmyselftoday]

GWU- $105K
Georgetown- $45K
UPenn- WL (probably sticker price if accepted)

$=total scholarship

Factors:
-Primary interest in Human Rights Law, Criminal Law, Trial Advocacy, Litigation
-Prefer DOJ employment
-Would prefer to live in Philadelphia for school
-Would like to maintain possibility for BigLaw
-Have professional contacts in DC, including in BigLaw
-No interest in coporate/finance law

[09042014]

GWU- $105K
Georgetown- $45K
UPenn- WL (probably sticker price if accepted)

$=total scholarship

Factors:
-Primary interest in Human Rights Law, Criminal Law, Trial Advocacy, Litigation
-Prefer DOJ employment
-Would prefer to live in Philadelphia for school
-Would like to maintain possibility for BigLaw
-Have professional contacts in DC, including in BigLaw
-No interest in coporate/finance law

Gtown, unless penn lets you off.

[D. H2Oman]

GWU- $105K
Georgetown- $45K
UPenn- WL (probably sticker price if accepted)

$=total scholarship

Factors:
-Primary interest in Human Rights Law, Criminal Law, Trial Advocacy, Litigation
-Prefer DOJ employment
-Would prefer to live in Philadelphia for school
-Would like to maintain possibility for BigLaw
-Have professional contacts in DC, including in BigLaw
-No interest in coporate/finance law

Georgetown, sure it's not T13, but it's still worth more that 60K @ GW.

[ihurtmyselftoday]

Gtown, unless penn lets you off.

Suprised to see that from you actually.

WTF is BP anyway?