Class of 2015 Employment Statistics by School: #TrustTheProcess Forum

[zozo]

Wisconsin- 14.2%

https://law.wisc.edu/prospective/stats. ... oyment2015

[WheninLaw]

Chicago's is up if you change the URL from their 2014 report to 2015. It isn't actually linked on their website yet, at least as far as I can see, but here you go: http://www.law.uchicago.edu/files/file/ ... of2015.pdf

We have a new leader it seems:

100+: 133
Federal Clerks: 29
Total: 162
Graduates: 196
Percentage: 82.65%

Nice. And doesn't account for the 6 at SSC, 3 of which going to CoA after, the other 3 to biglaw.

[rpupkin]

would be interesting to see comparisons between last year and this year with the t20 re: jobs

Here is the class of 2014 data (from last year's thread) on the t-14:

1) Columbia - 78.85% (74.15% BL + 4.7% FC)
2) Penn - 78.05% (70.14% BL + 7.91% FC)
3) Chicago - 75.71% (60% BL + 15.71 % FC)
4) Stanford - 74.87% (44.39% bl + 30.48% FC)
5) Cornell - 74.35% (64.4% BL + 9.95% FC)
6) NYU - 71.4% (64.09%bl + 7.31% FC)
7) Harvard - 71.17% (56.66% BL + 14.51% FC)
8 ) Duke - 70.23% (56.74% BL + 13.49% FC)
9) Virginia - 67.63% (52.44% BL + 15.19% FC)
10) Northwestern - 64.95% (55.67% BL + 9.28% FC)
11) Berkeley - 62.37% (48.43% BL + 13.94% FC)
12) Yale - 60.43% (34.78% BL + 25.65% FC)
13) Michigan - 53.85% (43.44% BL +10.51% FC)
14) Georgetown - 48.4% (44.89% BL +3.51% FC)

This year:
UChi: 82.65%
SLS: 78%
Penn: 77%
Duke: 76%
Yale: 72%
HLS: 71%
UVA: 70%
NU: 69%

In other words, most of the schools experienced substantial increases in their BL+FC numbers, and one (HLS) held steady.

But only one school in this bull legal market actually saw a decline. The school? You guessed it: Penn.

[Biglaw1990]

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[rpupkin]

And Harvard (71.17% to 70.79%)

Have you not heard of rounding, my friend? You're displaying the sort of intellectual dishonesty and weakness that has resulted in Penn's decline.

[M13D10]

Related to employment statistics... Shouldn't the ATL Rankings be coming out pretty soon?

[Iwanttolawschool]

We should give a quick update of these %'s after BigLaw's mistake - for the Top 20 at least. Duke is only 74.5%. Not 76.

[Biglaw1990]

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[Nebby]

OP updated

[Biglaw1990]

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[Biglaw1990]

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[BigTex]

And Harvard (71.17% to 70.79%)

Have you not heard of rounding, my friend? You're displaying the sort of intellectual dishonesty and weakness that has resulted in Penn's decline.

Firstly, the difference of 1% and .38% is what we are talking about here. Rounding is useful, but using a school's actual stats to counter a faulty argument about Penn being the only school whose placement rate experienced a marginal drop is surely not intellectual dishonesty. It's a display of accuracy.

Beware potential trolls.

[Nebby]

Related to employment statistics... Shouldn't the ATL Rankings be coming out pretty soon?

Probably sometime in the next couple of weeks

[rpupkin]

And Harvard (71.17% to 70.79%)

Have you not heard of rounding, my friend? You're displaying the sort of intellectual dishonesty and weakness that has resulted in Penn's decline.

Firstly, the difference of 1% and .38% is what we are talking about here.

So then Penn declined three times as much as Harvard? LOL.

Also, a minuscule decline for HLS simply means that a few more of its grads secured prestigious PI and government positions, whereas a decline for Penn means that Dechert has stopped hiring bottom-third Penn kids. Sad.

[WinterComing]

And Harvard (71.17% to 70.79%)

Have you not heard of rounding, my friend? You're displaying the sort of intellectual dishonesty and weakness that has resulted in Penn's decline.

Firstly, the difference of 1% and .38% is what we are talking about here.

So then Penn declined three times as much as Harvard? LOL.

Also, a minuscule decline for HLS simply means that a few more of its grads secured prestigious PI and government positions, whereas a decline for Penn means that Dechert has stopped hiring bottom-third Penn kids. Sad.

Never change.

[existentialcrisis]

And Harvard (71.17% to 70.79%)

Have you not heard of rounding, my friend? You're displaying the sort of intellectual dishonesty and weakness that has resulted in Penn's decline.

Firstly, the difference of 1% and .38% is what we are talking about here.

So then Penn declined three times as much as Harvard? LOL.

Also, a minuscule decline for HLS simply means that a few more of its grads secured prestigious PI and government positions, whereas a decline for Penn means that Dechert has stopped hiring bottom-third Penn kids. Sad.

Do you think Penn 1Ls should consider transferring, or is it too late to hop off the sinking ship?

[somethingElse]

They've been declining ever since the Sandusky debacle tbh.

[BigTex]

They've been declining ever since the Sandusky debacle tbh.

What's the statute of limitations on "too soon" again? Admittedly I lol'd but I didn't feel great about it.

[jnwa]

They've been declining ever since the Sandusky debacle tbh.

Probably why they split into 2 schools.

[somethingElse]

They've split into two schools?? They must be the first T14 to do such a thing

[Nebby]

You guys can stop

[zot1]

Split between the shower-friendly school and the non-shower-friendly school.

[jbagelboy]

But if PI gigs are steady, then what other types of jobs are being supplanted with biglaw hiring? Fed gov hiring?

Could be small firms or unemployment.

I think at least some of this is definitely the uptick in staff attorney hiring.

Prolly not staff attys at Chicago/SLS/CLS/ect, though. It's gotta be less small firms. For CLS roughly the same number of people are doing honors programs (10-15), PI fellowships (20-25), and JD/MBAs going to banks and consulting (10-15) as in past years. For Chicago, it's pretty stunning: there was only one student in c/o 2015 working at a firm with less than 100 attorneys (smaller sample size, but still: HLS had 18). That's gotta be it.

[jbagelboy]

Chicago's is up if you change the URL from their 2014 report to 2015. It isn't actually linked on their website yet, at least as far as I can see, but here you go: http://www.law.uchicago.edu/files/file/ ... of2015.pdf

We have a new leader it seems:

100+: 133
Federal Clerks: 29
Total: 162
Graduates: 196
Percentage: 82.65%

Damn. Is it too late to change my mind and go there? (Yes, it is too late.)

If it makes you feel better, for what you want to do these numbers aren't that important.

[rpupkin]

But if PI gigs are steady, then what other types of jobs are being supplanted with biglaw hiring? Fed gov hiring?

Could be small firms or unemployment.

I think at least some of this is definitely the uptick in staff attorney hiring.

Prolly not staff attys at Chicago/SLS/CLS/ect, though. It's gotta be less small firms. For CLS roughly the same number of people are doing honors programs (10-15), PI fellowships (20-25), and JD/MBAs going to banks and consulting (10-15) as in past years. For Chicago, it's pretty stunning: there was only one student in c/o 2015 working at a firm with less than 100 attorneys (smaller sample size, but still: HLS had 18). That's gotta be it.

Agree with this.