NYU vs Chicago for Biglaw Forum

[nixy]

Not Q, of course, but in the most recent numbers, UChicago's employment score is 91.3% and underemployment score is 5.8%. NYU's employment score is 88.4% and underemployment score is 8.7%. They're not large differences, but the differences are there. Remember too that people who do clerkships right out of school are overwhelmingly going to go into biglaw after, or possibly cream of the crop public interest.

[kidkasparov123]

Not Q, of course, but in the most recent numbers, UChicago's employment score is 91.3% and underemployment score is 5.8%. NYU's employment score is 88.4% and underemployment score is 8.7%. They're not large differences, but the differences are there. Remember too that people who do clerkships right out of school are overwhelmingly going to go into biglaw after, or possibly cream of the crop public interest.

Hey, Nixy. I agree that's not a large difference. Three percentage points could be a few JD advantage types or solo practitioners, either of whom may have easily been able to get full time bar passage required jobs but chose not to, for whatever reason.

But it seems like students from both schools are able to do whatever they want. People who want public interest get great public interest, and people who want biglaw get biglaw. I've also heard that about 20% of NYU grads clerk, but not immediately. From what I've seen, it looks like the schools are peer, but cater to different niches. I find it hard to tell if a CCN school is better, or if the differences are due to self selection.

[nixy]

Oh, I agree, they're basically equivalent in that people from any of CCN are mostly going to have great outcomes. Yes, there are some niches - assuming similar money at each CCN, if I were PI or bust I'd pick NYU, if I were NYC biglaw or bust I'd pick Columbia, and if I were Chicago/midwest job/maybe academia or bust I'd pick Chicago. I do think it's fair to say Chicago's placement is a tiny bit better that NYU's based on the numbers, but as everyone else has said throughout this thread, that doesn't mean it's wrong to pick NYU depending on personal circumstances (especially PI/NYC goals).

Living entirely outside of this bubble (did not go to a T6), they're all great schools and there isn't a bad choice, and parsing the options super fine is a little bit of an indulgence.

[kidkasparov123]

Oh, I agree, they're basically equivalent in that people from any of CCN are mostly going to have great outcomes. Yes, there are some niches - assuming similar money at each CCN, if I were PI or bust I'd pick NYU, if I were NYC biglaw or bust I'd pick Columbia, and if I were Chicago/midwest job/maybe academia or bust I'd pick Chicago. I do think it's fair to say Chicago's placement is a tiny bit better that NYU's based on the numbers, but as everyone else has said throughout this thread, that doesn't mean it's wrong to pick NYU depending on personal circumstances (especially PI/NYC goals).

Living entirely outside of this bubble (did not go to a T6), they're all great schools and there isn't a bad choice, and parsing the options super fine is a little bit of an indulgence.

Haha, I agree with you on the last point

[lawlzschool]

NYU is eliminating B-'s on the curve.

Good news for NYU students! Having B-s on the curve didn't make sense for a T6. When will this change happen? What was the impetus behind it - was it driven by students, career services, the faculty...?

I'm shook. UChicago still technically has Cs on the curve (168-173) and happily gives them out...

Source: I'm a UChicago 3L that has received several and has several friends that have verifiably received them as well. (we all worked/work [if the economy stays alive] in biglaw)

Not sure if this should influence your choice in any way but UChi happily still uses a pretty intense curve.