Cornell $ vs GULC $$ Forum

[poptart123]

Sorry I have to offer the opposite advice. If you only have four years then cost shouldn't matter at all, and law school might be fun because you don't really need to study since you will never really get to practice. You could just weave in and out of class and take vacations whenever you want.

I'm sorry, are you even in law school yet? The people at law school can be fun, but people can be fun anywhere. Law school itself is not fun at all. Only true weirdos find enjoyment over learning things where 90%+ of it will be useless in a practical sense. Must be a flame post.

Did you miss the part where I said it doesn't matter if you only have four years to live?

[Nlawsing]

I've gotten such good advice from TLS but geez the people on here are so condescending and a tad bit psycho I might add. Someone is asking for advice based on the options they've presented to you. You have no idea who they are what their circumstances are whatsoever yet your willing to make blanket conclusive statements on what is their best possible option is. Even after they've told you they are not considering it! LOL i just don't understand the logic. And for the person who said in all caps bolded letters that there is absolutely nothing that can prevent you from waiting a year to go to law school, hats off to you for the most obnoxious comment in this thread. I could be raising a family, I could be forced to move back to a foreign country after exactly three years I could have a brain tumor that gives me 4 years to live . You literally have no idea! Give advice based on the question that OP posed! stop it with trying to impose your own notions of whats best for them , having not known a single thing about them. If you really feel the urge to do otherwise do it on someone else thread and leave room for those that can actual lend so helpful insight. Also thanks to those that gave actual advice.

OP, I completely agree with you. Some of the things people say on this site in absurd. I hope you receive the advice you're looking for. As for me, I think you should go to GTown and become a hoya lawya and avoid the suicide/depression trap that is Cornell. But what do I know, I'm just a 0L

The bolded is correct. And probably a 21-yo at that.

You must've been at the admitted students day ! yes being a Hoya Lawya definetly was a selling point haha ! Thanks for your input !

[barkschool]

OP, I completely agree with you. Some of the things people say on this site in absurd. I hope you receive the advice you're looking for. As for me, I think you should go to GTown and become a hoya lawya and avoid the suicide/depression trap that is Cornell. But what do I know, I'm just a 0L

The bolded is correct. And probably a 21-yo at that.

You must've been at the admitted students day ! yes being a Hoya Lawya definetly was a selling point haha ! Thanks for your input !

jfc

[ughbugchugplug]

Cornell law here. I'd suggest coming here. It's really not that bad and you'll learn a lot. The advantage of cornell is its isolation: you'll mostly study and get to know the other students. It's good prep for a firm because you'll develop good work ethic and learn how to get along with a small group of people that you have no means of avoiding. It's a very small towny atmosphere, which is a good way to learn how to be professional and get along when you have to.

That said, I hate it here and please please someone save me

[Trippel]

Cornell law here. I'd suggest coming here. It's really not that bad and you'll learn a lot. The advantage of cornell is its isolation: you'll mostly study and get to know the other students. It's good prep for a firm because you'll develop good work ethic and learn how to get along with a small group of people that you have no means of avoiding. It's a very small towny atmosphere, which is a good way to learn how to be professional and get along when you have to.

That said, I hate it here and please please someone save me

Oh man, way to not represent, lol.

I actually love Cornell law. I've made great friendships and don't find the social atmosphere lacking. Anyone who is miserable would probably be miserable at any law school. I have to say, I would've been way more freaked out during 1L if we had Gtown's employment numbers.

[ughbugchugplug]

Cornell law here. I'd suggest coming here. It's really not that bad and you'll learn a lot. The advantage of cornell is its isolation: you'll mostly study and get to know the other students. It's good prep for a firm because you'll develop good work ethic and learn how to get along with a small group of people that you have no means of avoiding. It's a very small towny atmosphere, which is a good way to learn how to be professional and get along when you have to.

That said, I hate it here and please please someone save me

Oh man, way to not represent, lol.

I actually love Cornell law. I've made great friendships and don't find the social atmosphere lacking. Anyone who is miserable would probably be miserable at any law school. I have to say, I would've been way more freaked out during 1L if we had Gtown's employment numbers.

Haha yeah, I was joking, maybe should've been more clear. It's a nice place and I've made good friends too.

[rpupkin]

Ignoring the retake argument, I actually disagree with the consensus Cornell vote here. Gtown sounds like the smarter vote to me. You would enjoy the next three years more at a significantly cheaper price. You're definitely lowballing costs and Cornell with 25k a year should leave you closer to 200k. Georgetown is much more affordable, and I don't believe the difference in employment isn't without a decent amount of self selection. A lot of gtown graduates want govt and a lot want DC biglaw which seems very tough to get. I don't think the Cornell vs Gtown name will give you much help in the hiring process.

Making a life-changing decision based off of enjoying a city you'll live in for ~27 months is the smart vote?

No, it's not. But the OP would live rent-free in DC; it's not just about enjoying a particular city more than another city. And taking on $160K of debt to attend Cornell is also a "life-changing decision." That would require a lot of (likely miserable) years in NYC big law just to pay off the debt and break even.

I don't agree with the thread consensus, except for those urging OP to retake. I'd rank the OP's options in the following order: Retake, GULC, Cornell.

[curry1]

Ignoring the retake argument, I actually disagree with the consensus Cornell vote here. Gtown sounds like the smarter vote to me. You would enjoy the next three years more at a significantly cheaper price. You're definitely lowballing costs and Cornell with 25k a year should leave you closer to 200k. Georgetown is much more affordable, and I don't believe the difference in employment isn't without a decent amount of self selection. A lot of gtown graduates want govt and a lot want DC biglaw which seems very tough to get. I don't think the Cornell vs Gtown name will give you much help in the hiring process.

[*][*]Making a life-changing decision based off of enjoying a city you'll live in for ~27 months is the smart vote?

No, it's not. But the OP would live rent-free in DC; it's not just about enjoying a particular city more than another city. And taking on $160K of debt to attend Cornell is also a "life-changing decision." That would require a lot of (likely miserable) years in NYC big law just to pay off the debt and break even.

I don't agree with the thread consensus, except for those urging OP to retake. I'd rank the OP's options in the following order: Retake, GULC, Cornell.

RETAKE

[Glacial]

Career Goals: Interested in International law in the long term but very much so want to get big law after graduation more specifically large New York firms with a strong focus on International Arbitration. I definitely want to live in NYC but DC is an option as well.

If you are really interested in international law with a strong focus on international arbitration, then your top choices are GULC, NYU and Harvard. The ICSID (investment arbitration) is in D.C. and GULC offers interesting externships. Also, GULC enjoys a solid reputation in "arbitration capitals" such as London, Paris, Geneva and Stockholm, which could help you for summer internships there.

My advice is: pay the deposit at GULC and wait as much as you can for NYU and Harvard. Cornell and Chicago are not an option for your career goals.

[rpupkin]

Career Goals: Interested in International law in the long term but very much so want to get big law after graduation more specifically large New York firms with a strong focus on International Arbitration. I definitely want to live in NYC but DC is an option as well.

If you are really interested in international law with a strong focus on international arbitration, then your top choices are GULC, NYU and Harvard.

Right. So if you're interested in international law with a strong focus on international arbitration, you should turn down SLS and YLS in favor of GULC. C'mon.

[Glacial]

Career Goals: Interested in International law in the long term but very much so want to get big law after graduation more specifically large New York firms with a strong focus on International Arbitration. I definitely want to live in NYC but DC is an option as well.

If you are really interested in international law with a strong focus on international arbitration, then your top choices are GULC, NYU and Harvard.

Right. So if you're interested in international law with a strong focus on international arbitration, you should turn down SLS and YLS in favor of GULC. C'mon.

Is OP considering SLS and YLS?

[rpupkin]

Career Goals: Interested in International law in the long term but very much so want to get big law after graduation more specifically large New York firms with a strong focus on International Arbitration. I definitely want to live in NYC but DC is an option as well.

If you are really interested in international law with a strong focus on international arbitration, then your top choices are GULC, NYU and Harvard.

Right. So if you're interested in international law with a strong focus on international arbitration, you should turn down SLS and YLS in favor of GULC. C'mon.

Is OP considering SLS and YLS?

No. I thought OP was considering GULC and Cornell.