Just took an official visit to Akron Law Forum

[Clyde Frog]

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[cavalier1138]

Your opinion isn't wrong unless it's the answer to "why do I want to go to Akron Law?"

Yes, I would not prioritize and consider any of this, unless if two schools I am looking at happened to be even and a toss-up decision (anything more are words being put in my mouth). I hope that I don't have to type that out, verbatim, every time I post or an argument will ensue. I mean, come on (and, actually - I did mention the geographic preference of Villanova).

However, what I will say is that I think it is a school on the rise. How much of a rise? Who knows - but, I think that you will see them rise in the future.

Being a school "on the rise" doesn't mean that much, though. It's an assumption that it's going to do better, and that's a gamble.

And if you think that they're going to be on the rise "in the future", what does that mean? Would it affect your prospects after school? Would it affect the class the year after you? Five years after you? Ten? A vague sense of a school that's improving doesn't translate to results.

But this all seems like a moot point, because if you plan on practicing in and later taking over your father's firm, that's a done deal. You can go anywhere, not try very hard, graduate, pass the bar, and do exactly what you planned to do from the start. Where you go to law school won't affect that plan in the least.

I will say this, however. I guarantee that if you want to do anything other than work at your dad's firm, keeping it as a back-up plan will absolutely destroy any chances you have of performing as well as you could. When you have a back-up plan, you have far less incentive to work hard and put in any real effort, compared to your classmates who are relying on their grades for job placement. So if you don't want to end up doing your back-up plan, you need to not have one.

[Leagles5161]

But they have a lazy river

[psu2016]

But they have a lazy river

I'm sure if Cooley had one a school's lazy river status would be somewhere between 'employment data' and 'square feet of library'.

[cavalier1138]

But they have a lazy river

Wait, really?

Never mind, OP. Do whatever it takes to go to Akron.

[bmathers]

Your opinion isn't wrong unless it's the answer to "why do I want to go to Akron Law?"

Yes, I would not prioritize and consider any of this, unless if two schools I am looking at happened to be even and a toss-up decision (anything more are words being put in my mouth). I hope that I don't have to type that out, verbatim, every time I post or an argument will ensue. I mean, come on (and, actually - I did mention the geographic preference of Villanova).

However, what I will say is that I think it is a school on the rise. How much of a rise? Who knows - but, I think that you will see them rise in the future.

Being a school "on the rise" doesn't mean that much, though. It's an assumption that it's going to do better, and that's a gamble.

And if you think that they're going to be on the rise "in the future", what does that mean? Would it affect your prospects after school? Would it affect the class the year after you? Five years after you? Ten? A vague sense of a school that's improving doesn't translate to results.

But this all seems like a moot point, because if you plan on practicing in and later taking over your father's firm, that's a done deal. You can go anywhere, not try very hard, graduate, pass the bar, and do exactly what you planned to do from the start. Where you go to law school won't affect that plan in the least.

I will say this, however. I guarantee that if you want to do anything other than work at your dad's firm, keeping it as a back-up plan will absolutely destroy any chances you have of performing as well as you could. When you have a back-up plan, you have far less incentive to work hard and put in any real effort, compared to your classmates who are relying on their grades for job placement. So if you don't want to end up doing your back-up plan, you need to not have one.

Good advice. Thanks

[Clyde Frog]

Lazy river

[mvp99]

the first few posts of this thread felt like some sort of infomercial or sponsored content

[Tiddlywinks]

Akron law sucks. Know of around ten pple who have gone to law school there and could not find jobs afterwards. Only guy I know with a job from Akron law is a guy who went there in the early 80s. Akron, Ohio also sucks to live in. I'm only here because I was born here and all my family lives here.

Lebron and I disagree

[Clyde Frog]

Akron law sucks. Know of around ten pple who have gone to law school there and could not find jobs afterwards. Only guy I know with a job from Akron law is a guy who went there in the early 80s. Akron, Ohio also sucks to live in. I'm only here because I was born here and all my family lives here.

Lebron and I disagree

I mean..it's better than Canton I guess

[moonman157]

There's also really no such thing as an "up and coming" law school. New facilities or better faculty might make your experience better in law school, but it won't help with the most important things, like employment prospects or portability of your degree. Akron will always be Akron; probably has a solid reputation around the area, and maybe in other parts of Ohio, but not much else. No one in Pennsylvania or New York or California is going to say "Hey, I hear Akron Law got a new building this year. Let's be sure to hire some more kids from there this year." The legal industry itself is very slow to adapt (in a lot of respects), and the people doing the hiring are older attorneys who have their minds made up of where each law school fits in the hierarchy. What the Dean was feeding you was boilerplate law school dean talk.

[BasilHallward]

I'm calling flame on this one, ladies and gents. Honestly, I'm surprised no one has done so thus far.

[Nachoo2019]

This entire thread is pure gold

[bmathers]

I'm calling flame on this one, ladies and gents. Honestly, I'm surprised no one has done so thus far.

Anything that goes against the standard message of "TLS" is a flame? Ha, you sound as naive as me...

[albanach]

I'm calling flame on this one, ladies and gents. Honestly, I'm surprised no one has done so thus far.

Anything that goes against the standard message of "TLS" is a flame? Ha, you sound as naive as me...

No, he's calling it a flame because you've been offered reasonable suggestions and appear to value recreation facilities and some building improvements that you might enjoy in your final couple of semesters over long-term success as a lawyer.

Most schools have a decent gym. The idea that you pick a law school based on an above average one is so foolish it suggests either naivety or shilling.

If the GPA in your profile is accurate, everyone knows it's going to hold you back. It's probably below the 25th percentile for the t14. But most folk here also know the LSAT is a learnable test. With practice, most folk that can complete an undergraduate with a B+ average should be able to score a high 160s LSAT. And that, with your GPA, could see you getting low-cost tuition at a school with vastly better long term prospects.

[Clyde Frog]

I'm calling flame on this one, ladies and gents. Honestly, I'm surprised no one has done so thus far.

Anything that goes against the standard message of "TLS" is a flame? Ha, you sound as naive as me...

No, he's calling it a flame because you've been offered reasonable suggestions and appear to value recreation facilities and some building improvements that you might enjoy in your final couple of semesters over long-term success as a lawyer.

Most schools have a decent gym. The idea that you pick a law school based on an above average one is so foolish it suggests either naivety or shilling.

If the GPA in your profile is accurate, everyone knows it's going to hold you back. It's probably below the 25th percentile for the t14. But most folk here also know the LSAT is a learnable test. With practice, most folk that can complete an undergraduate with a B+ average should be able to score a high 160s LSAT. And that, with your GPA, could see you getting low-cost tuition at a school with vastly better long term prospects.

Talked to a friend of mine that went to Akron for undergrad, the lazy river is legit.

[Kali the Annihilator]

On the .1% chance that OP is serious, his brain seems wellnsuited for a school like Akron. PURSUE DEM DREAMS DOWN THE LAZY RIVER, FAM

[somethingElse]

Is that picture the entirety of the lazy river? More like a lazy stream or puddle if so.

[HonestAdvice]

Although the lazy river is located inside the gym, it's not for recreation. In 2010, Akron Law built the river to supplement its career services offices. It's a unique and unparalleled opportunity for law students to get acquainted with their post-law school housing situations. You don't have to worry about living on an inflatable raft in the river after law school if you're already living in one during law school. The law school bookstore even sells inflatable rafts, and if you buy your law school textbooks there you can get yourself a nice inflatable raft for 10% off. I consulted with an alumni who actually has 2 rafts - one to sleep in and one as an office. He goes by the name of Trevor, no last name. It's hard to pin down a specific locale because he's always moving, but if you drive down the river you'll find him. Great lawyer, and speaks very highly of his time at Akron.

[goldenflash19]

My brother works out at the Akron Rec and has informed me that the Lazy River is currently out of order because of a problem with the heating unit. Prospective law students should keep this in mind when considering Akron.

[Glasseyes]

This is one of the better garbage/shill threads in a while. Good work, OP.

Also, for any OLs reading, run far and fast lest you succumb to the lazy river of depressing outcomes

[bmathers]

So, as fun as this thread is, a brief update on my situation:

I am retaking my LSAT June 6 and have scored around 160 each of my last 4 PTs. My top choice is still Villanova or Temple (1a and 1b). However, I will absolutely consider a "lesser" school if a 160 gets me a full ride. I am interviewing for a position beginning in the fall. If I get it, I'll be looking at making around $80k next year, hoping to save a decent chunk of that.

I figure 30k in savings + $2500-3500/mo from my Network Marketing biz while a student could get me through debt-free if on a full-ride. That is VERY tempting! Thoughts?

[ronanOgara]

So, as fun as this thread is, a brief update on my situation:

I am retaking my LSAT June 6 and have scored around 160 each of my last 4 PTs. My top choice is still Villanova or Temple (1a and 1b). However, I will absolutely consider a "lesser" school if a 160 gets me a full ride. I am interviewing for a position beginning in the fall. If I get it, I'll be looking at making around $80k next year, hoping to save a decent chunk of that.

I figure 30k in savings + $2500-3500/mo from my Network Marketing biz while a student could get me through debt-free if on a full-ride. That is VERY tempting! Thoughts?

$80k? You should just work there for the rest of your life.

[emkay625]

So, as fun as this thread is, a brief update on my situation:

I am retaking my LSAT June 6 and have scored around 160 each of my last 4 PTs. My top choice is still Villanova or Temple (1a and 1b). However, I will absolutely consider a "lesser" school if a 160 gets me a full ride. I am interviewing for a position beginning in the fall. If I get it, I'll be looking at making around $80k next year, hoping to save a decent chunk of that.

I figure 30k in savings + $2500-3500/mo from my Network Marketing biz while a student could get me through debt-free if on a full-ride. That is VERY tempting! Thoughts?

$80k? You should just work there for the rest of your life.

If I understand correctly: You maybe are going to get a gig that pays 80K and also already have a business that brings in 2500-3500 a month on the side?

Why are you going to law school?

[Nachoo2019]

So, as fun as this thread is, a brief update on my situation:

I am retaking my LSAT June 6 and have scored around 160 each of my last 4 PTs. My top choice is still Villanova or Temple (1a and 1b). However, I will absolutely consider a "lesser" school if a 160 gets me a full ride. I am interviewing for a position beginning in the fall. If I get it, I'll be looking at making around $80k next year, hoping to save a decent chunk of that.

I figure 30k in savings + $2500-3500/mo from my Network Marketing biz while a student could get me through debt-free if on a full-ride. That is VERY tempting! Thoughts?

$80k? You should just work there for the rest of your life.

If I understand correctly: You maybe are going to get a gig that pays 80K and also already have a business that brings in 2500-3500 a month on the side?

Why are you going to law school?

You probably won't be making 80k right out of law school at either of those schools. If you have that opportunity and are making 2,500-3,000 extra a month why in the hell are you going to law school?

I have an idea. I'll take your 80k job+2,500/month and you can have my full ride. Sound good?