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Post by totesTheGoat » Tue Mar 29, 2016 11:15 am

GFox345 wrote: But then again maybe I am not the best judge of such things seeing as I think being a follower of a Bronze Age Religion based on human sacrifice is absurd in the first place.
Breaking news: smug asshole acts smug and assholish. More at 11.

At OP: You need to do some more research into where you want to end up. Right now, you're leaping before you look, and you're going to be in need of charity more than in a position to provide charity. Do some research and find a path that isn't going to burden you with massive debt and almost no chance of getting a job in the field you're interested in.

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Re: Full Ride to T4 Or 1/2 Ride To Tulsa (#86 in USWN)?

Post by GFox345 » Tue Mar 29, 2016 11:24 am

totesTheGoat wrote:
GFox345 wrote: But then again maybe I am not the best judge of such things seeing as I think being a follower of a Bronze Age Religion based on human sacrifice is absurd in the first place.
Breaking news: smug asshole acts smug and assholish. More at 11.

At OP: You need to do some more research into where you want to end up. Right now, you're leaping before you look, and you're going to be in need of charity more than in a position to provide charity. Do some research and find a path that isn't going to burden you with massive debt and almost no chance of getting a job in the field you're interested in.
You're right about the smug asshole part. That was not the most tactful thing to say. That being said it never ceases to amaze me how literally just calling Christianity what it is - namely a religion that originated in the Bronze Age and bases itself primarily on the sacrifice of a human life - is shocking to people.

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Post by totesTheGoat » Tue Mar 29, 2016 11:33 am

GFox345 wrote:That being said it never ceases to amaze me how literally just calling Christianity what it is - namely a religion that originated in the Bronze Age and bases itself primarily on the sacrifice of a human life - is shocking to people.
It's not shocking at all, it's just that the smug implications were dripping through your comments. There's nothing offensive about "calling Christianity what it is." I was just calling you out for being a dick about it.

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Re: Full Ride to T4 Or 1/2 Ride To Tulsa (#86 in USWN)?

Post by cavalier1138 » Tue Mar 29, 2016 11:35 am

Can we get back to the focus of this thread? Posting fake biblical quotes about law school options.

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Re: Full Ride to T4 Or 1/2 Ride To Tulsa (#86 in USWN)?

Post by pancakes3 » Tue Mar 29, 2016 11:47 am

Um... Iron Age?

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Post by GFox345 » Tue Mar 29, 2016 11:47 am

totesTheGoat wrote:
GFox345 wrote:That being said it never ceases to amaze me how literally just calling Christianity what it is - namely a religion that originated in the Bronze Age and bases itself primarily on the sacrifice of a human life - is shocking to people.
It's not shocking at all, it's just that the smug implications were dripping through your comments. There's nothing offensive about "calling Christianity what it is." I was just calling you out for being a dick about it.
Again, I don't understand why you would put "calling Christianity what it is" in quotations as if there were some sort of question at issue or implicit controversial claim in what I said. Is there something that you disagree with?

I admit to a certain degree of smugness, but it seems to me that it is far less smug to poke fun at someone's ridiculous belief system than to presume that my decision whether or not to attend law school is of any interest to the omnipotent creator of the universe if such a being exists. Just a thought.

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Re: Full Ride to T4 Or 1/2 Ride To Tulsa (#86 in USWN)?

Post by GFox345 » Tue Mar 29, 2016 11:51 am

pancakes3 wrote:Um... Iron Age?
There's some truth to what you're suggesting. The New Testament was written in the Iron Age to be sure, but a large portion of the legends and stories in the Old Testament were (EDIT: Certianly) written in the Bronze Age. I choose Bronze Age both because it sounds worse and because the true roots of the religion were developed in that time. I suppose there's an argument to be made on either side!
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Re: Full Ride to T4 Or 1/2 Ride To Tulsa (#86 in USWN)?

Post by totesTheGoat » Tue Mar 29, 2016 11:58 am

GFox345 wrote: Again, I don't understand why you would put "calling Christianity what it is" in quotations as if there were some sort of question at issue or implicit controversial claim in what I said. Is there something that you disagree with?
Because your implications went beyond calling Christianity what it is and well into editorializing. Is Christianity a Bronze Age institution? Not really, unless you consider its Jewish roots. As pancakes says, it's more of an Iron Age religion. Is Christianity based primarily on the sacrifice of a human life? Yes, I guess it could be said that way. If I was being a smug asshole, I would have said that Christianity was based on following a pathway to zombi-ism, but I was only agnostic for a few years, so my sharp wit hasn't been developed by years on /r/atheism.

However, your thematic implication that Christianity is a backwards blood cult certainly isn't lost on me.
I admit to a certain degree of smugness, but it seems to me that it is far less smug to poke fun at someone's ridiculous belief system than to presume that my decision whether or not to attend law school is of any interest to the omnipotent creator of the universe if such a being exists. Just a thought.
You've convinced me, I bow to my postmodern humanist overlords now. :roll: :roll:

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Re: Full Ride to T4 Or 1/2 Ride To Tulsa (#86 in USWN)?

Post by GFox345 » Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:08 pm

totesTheGoat wrote:
GFox345 wrote: Again, I don't understand why you would put "calling Christianity what it is" in quotations as if there were some sort of question at issue or implicit controversial claim in what I said. Is there something that you disagree with?
Because your implications went beyond calling Christianity what it is and well into editorializing. Is Christianity a Bronze Age institution? Not really, unless you consider its Jewish roots. As pancakes says, it's more of an Iron Age religion. Is Christianity based primarily on the sacrifice of a human life? Yes, I guess it could be said that way. If I was being a smug asshole, I would have said that Christianity was based on following a pathway to zombi-ism, but I was only agnostic for a few years, so my sharp wit hasn't been developed by hours on /r/atheism.

However, your thematic implication that Christianity is a backwards blood cult certainly isn't lost on me.
I admit to a certain degree of smugness, but it seems to me that it is far less smug to poke fun at someone's ridiculous belief system than to presume that my decision whether or not to attend law school is of any interest to the omnipotent creator of the universe if such a being exists. Just a thought.
You've convinced me, I bow to my postmodern humanist overlords now. :roll: :roll:
You are right. But my intention in saying what I said and what I said itself are two different things. It seems to me that you can reasonably take issue with the former (as you have) but not the latter.

Questioning Christian beliefs = Oppression from Postmodern Humanist Overlords (may Their names forever be rightfully capitalized), hm? Who's the smug one now? You know Christianity forbids being a hypocrite, right?

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Post by BigZuck » Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:17 pm

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Post by jfiaff » Tue Mar 29, 2016 4:35 pm

JuliusCaesar wrote:
jfiaff wrote:
JuliusCaesar wrote:"Don't go to law school" - Matthew 10:28
"Retake" - Proverbs 180
"For it is easier to pass through the eye of a needle than to get a meaningful law job from ave maria"
There's a joke somewhere about the LG Bible just waiting to be made.

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Post by JuliusCaesar » Tue Mar 29, 2016 4:38 pm

jfiaff wrote:
JuliusCaesar wrote:
jfiaff wrote:
JuliusCaesar wrote:"Don't go to law school" - Matthew 10:28
"Retake" - Proverbs 180
"For it is easier to pass through the eye of a needle than to get a meaningful law job from ave maria"
There's a joke somewhere about the LG Bible just waiting to be made.
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Post by Tls2016 » Tue Mar 29, 2016 4:44 pm

OP: if you have any more questions just post them here.
Can you guys making jokes about OPs religion please start a thread in the lounge instead of derailing the on-topics?

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Re: Full Ride to T4 Or 1/2 Ride To Tulsa (#86 in USWN)?

Post by Tiago Splitter » Tue Mar 29, 2016 4:59 pm

No more religion jokes thx.

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Post by GFox345 » Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:09 am

Tiago Splitter wrote:No more religion jokes thx.
Let he who is without a sense of humor cast the first stone.

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Post by lymenheimer » Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:12 am

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Tiago Splitter wrote:No more religion jokes thx.
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Post by cron1834 » Wed Mar 30, 2016 1:46 pm

jfiaff wrote:
JuliusCaesar wrote:"Don't go to law school" - Matthew 10:28
"Retake" - Proverbs 180
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Post by Legaladvocate » Fri Apr 08, 2016 4:45 pm

Ave Maria students who pass the bar get legal jobs. Even though the first time takers may fail, most of them pass and get jobs the second time they take it. Some students are overconfident when they finish law school but bar exams get tougher every year. It doesn't mean you will not be a good lawyer, it only means that you didn't pass that test (the 1st time). Get your degree and prepare for the bar exam with all your might. As for what people say, do what is best for you and yours. Listen to comments with a critical mind. Good luck! :D

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Post by ManoftheHour » Fri Apr 08, 2016 4:51 pm

GFox345 wrote:
fliptrip wrote:
jnwa wrote:
pancakes3 wrote:you can maximize your value by maximizing your LSAT score. you should retake the test and not settle for anything less than a 170.
Im all about the retake, hell i retook a 173 but do people really believe anyone is capable of a 170 with enough study. I know the lsat is learnable and id understand if someone already had a 3.9ish gpa but do people here really think a 97th percentile score is achievable for anyone with enough study?
There's no way. You only have to get a glimpse at the full range of folks who are taking the LSAT to understand how this isn't true. There are some folks taking the test who lack the core literacy skills to even get to enough of the 101 questions. I do think that most folks who can earn a 3.5+ GPA in college can get in the high 150s if they work hard at it.
I totally agree with this. There is absolutely no way that everyone is capable of a 170 with enough study. It's a stretch to even make the same claim about a 160 in my opinion.
Agreed. Took 4 times, 167 was my max. Maybe I'm just dumb shit. This doesn't change anything. OP needs to retake.

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Post by lymenheimer » Fri Apr 08, 2016 9:43 pm

Legaladvocate wrote:Ave Maria students who pass the bar get legal jobs. Even though the first time takers may fail, most of them pass and get jobs the second time they take it. Some students are overconfident when they finish law school but bar exams get tougher every year. It doesn't mean you will not be a good lawyer, it only means that you didn't pass that test (the 1st time). Get your degree and prepare for the bar exam with all your might. As for what people say, do what is best for you and yours. Listen to comments with a critical mind. Good luck! :D
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