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Re: Is Fordham a Good Idea?

Post by Clearly » Mon Jan 25, 2016 2:41 pm

yenisey wrote:
Clearly wrote:
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Brut wrote:yea fair enough zuck, i actually revise my above advice
there really is a big difference between, say, cornell (bl+fc 74.3%) and vandy (bl+fc 41.2%)
if the goal really is biglaw, aim for those schools where biglaw is basically a presumption (lstscorereports.com is good resource for this data)
I'm just curious about deferral things. OP says he/she has a Fordham deferral and would like to reapply a second cycle. But doesn't the deferral agreement lock OP from applying to any other school, even in the next cycle in which his/her situation is equivalent to having been admitted by Fordham and paid the deposit? I'm ignorant about this, in hope of receiving expert's answer.

BTW, suppose I'm admitted by some school but granted scant money, could I retake the June LSAT and negotiate on scholaship again, even at that time it will be well into July?
Totally depends on the school. Some schools have binding deferrals, others don't. Also some schools give them out on request, others want documented medical emergencies etc.

Technically yes you can do that, problem is many schools will have spent their entire budget. Maybe they can pull together enough to satisfy your new price, maybe not, entirely school dependant.
Thank you very much. Your comment is tremendously valuable. And where could I gather the information about which school binding deferral, which school not binding?
I've never seen such a list, but regardless, I really wouldn't bank on this as an admissions strategy. It's not commonly used because most schools require a medical/military service type of situation. I can tell you that Northwestern only issues non-binding deferrals, but only in cases of emergencies or medical situations, and they require a letter explaining the scenario.

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Re: Is Fordham a Good Idea?

Post by yenisey » Mon Jan 25, 2016 2:54 pm

Clearly wrote:
yenisey wrote:
Clearly wrote:
yenisey wrote:
Brut wrote:yea fair enough zuck, i actually revise my above advice
there really is a big difference between, say, cornell (bl+fc 74.3%) and vandy (bl+fc 41.2%)
if the goal really is biglaw, aim for those schools where biglaw is basically a presumption (lstscorereports.com is good resource for this data)
I'm just curious about deferral things. OP says he/she has a Fordham deferral and would like to reapply a second cycle. But doesn't the deferral agreement lock OP from applying to any other school, even in the next cycle in which his/her situation is equivalent to having been admitted by Fordham and paid the deposit? I'm ignorant about this, in hope of receiving expert's answer.

BTW, suppose I'm admitted by some school but granted scant money, could I retake the June LSAT and negotiate on scholaship again, even at that time it will be well into July?
Totally depends on the school. Some schools have binding deferrals, others don't. Also some schools give them out on request, others want documented medical emergencies etc.

Technically yes you can do that, problem is many schools will have spent their entire budget. Maybe they can pull together enough to satisfy your new price, maybe not, entirely school dependant.
Thank you very much. Your comment is tremendously valuable. And where could I gather the information about which school binding deferral, which school not binding?
I've never seen such a list, but regardless, I really wouldn't bank on this as an admissions strategy. It's not commonly used because most schools require a medical/military service type of situation. I can tell you that Northwestern only issues non-binding deferrals, but only in cases of emergencies or medical situations, and they require a letter explaining the scenario.
Thank you for the admonishment. Without it I may make some terrible mistake.

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Re: Is Fordham a Good Idea?

Post by Fitzmagic34 » Thu Mar 10, 2016 5:49 pm

Given your current score and the type of law you ultimately want to practice, I would agree with the strategy to defer and retake the test.

That being said, if you are from the NY area and want to ultimately practice in New York, Fordham is fine. Those who say that a lower end T-14ish school across the country (UT, Vanderbilt etc.) is better than Fordham in the NY market have either not spent much time here or have no concept of the market itself. Anyone can read Law School Transparency reports but can they find me the number of partners working in NYC from Texas compared to Fordham...

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Re: Is Fordham a Good Idea?

Post by Clearly » Thu Mar 10, 2016 6:19 pm

Fitzmagic34 wrote:Given your current score and the type of law you ultimately want to practice, I would agree with the strategy to defer and retake the test.

That being said, if you are from the NY area and want to ultimately practice in New York, Fordham is fine. Those who say that a lower end T-14ish school across the country (UT, Vanderbilt etc.) is better than Fordham in the NY market have either not spent much time here or have no concept of the market itself. Anyone can read Law School Transparency reports but can they find me the number of partners working in NYC from Texas compared to Fordham...
You bumped a pretty old thread to assert that number of partners from a given law school is a meaningful metric?

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Re: Is Fordham a Good Idea?

Post by Monochromatic Oeuvre » Thu Mar 10, 2016 6:49 pm

Fitzmagic34 wrote:Given your current score and the type of law you ultimately want to practice, I would agree with the strategy to defer and retake the test.

That being said, if you are from the NY area and want to ultimately practice in New York, Fordham is fine. Those who say that a lower end T-14ish school across the country (UT, Vanderbilt etc.) is better than Fordham in the NY market have either not spent much time here or have no concept of the market itself. Anyone can read Law School Transparency reports but can they find me the number of partners working in NYC from Texas compared to Fordham...
This is like an LSAT "spot the flaw" question.

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Re: Is Fordham a Good Idea?

Post by cron1834 » Thu Mar 10, 2016 6:59 pm

Fitzmagic34 wrote:Given your current score and the type of law you ultimately want to practice, I would agree with the strategy to defer and retake the test.

That being said, if you are from the NY area and want to ultimately practice in New York, Fordham is fine. Those who say that a lower end T-14ish school across the country (UT, Vanderbilt etc.) is better than Fordham in the NY market have either not spent much time here or have no concept of the market itself. Anyone can read Law School Transparency reports but can they find me the number of partners working in NYC from Texas compared to Fordham...
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Re: Is Fordham a Good Idea?

Post by BigZuck » Thu Mar 10, 2016 8:09 pm

I know Top 3rdish UT people who got offers in NYC and people around median who got screeners with NYC firms, I'm guessing that aligns pretty well with what happems at Fordham

I'm not sure how that's at all relevant though because this thread is old and dead

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