Baylor ($$) VS South Texas ($$) Forum

Traynor Brah · Post by **Traynor Brah** » Mon Oct 26, 2015 4:14 pm

Cool but OP wants to practice in houston.

Also advising most anyone to go to Baylor should be a bannable offense.

rougelove · Post by **rougelove** » Mon Oct 26, 2015 6:40 pm

ok it was my mistake to even post this question on this website because you lot don't seem to understand a question and its context when given.

good luck with your hot shot schools and big law jobs. but next time keep in mind that not everyone is in the same circumstance or have the same goals.

mornincounselor · Post by **mornincounselor** » Mon Oct 26, 2015 6:51 pm

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A@M_or_bust · Post by **A@M_or_bust** » Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:12 pm

rougelove wrote:ok it was my mistake to even post this question on this website because you lot don't seem to understand a question and its context when given.

good luck with your hot shot schools and big law jobs. but next time keep in mind that not everyone is in the same circumstance or have the same goals.

Please understand that we are telling to try and shoot for a "hotshot school" because it maximizes your chances of actually practicing law. Look at the ABA employment report of Baylor and South Texas. A good chunk of graduates do not find legal work and if you changed your mind and wanted to do Biglaw (many people change their mind during law school) you would have just about zero chance of getting such a job. Basically, the question is, are you willing to go over 100k in debt at Baylor where you will have about a 2/3 chance of getting a legal job that pays 55-60k a year? If so, help yourself.

Traynor Brah · Post by **Traynor Brah** » Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:51 pm

rougelove wrote:ok it was my mistake to even post this question on this website because you lot don't seem to understand a question and its context when given.

good luck with your hot shot schools and big law jobs. but next time keep in mind that not everyone is in the same circumstance or have the same goals.

Hey it's your funeral; can't say you weren't warned.

lymenheimer · Post by **lymenheimer** » Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:16 pm

Tagging myself to ask for an update in 3 years.

rougelove · Post by **rougelove** » Mon Oct 26, 2015 11:41 pm

lymenheimer wrote:Tagging myself to ask for an update in 3 years.

Probably won't be lurking on this website at that time. Actually need to go make a life instead of giving unrealistic advice to people out of my own loneliness and frustrations.

A@M_or_bust · Post by **A@M_or_bust** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:45 am

It was not too long ago that I was on here asking for advice about which school to go to (both of which were awful choices) and I got the "retake or don't go" treatment and I responded almost as bad as you are now.

At least two of us go to UT, others are practicing, and many of us come on here to give back to the tls community that may have helped us in the past. The majority of us are not lonely and frustrated, but trying to give you candid advice because you asked for it.
Law school is a risky move and can be life-ruining so it is wise to be cautious. You really need to do more research before making your decision.

Again. Good luck.

kalvano · Post by **kalvano** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:13 am

rougelove wrote:
lymenheimer wrote:Tagging myself to ask for an update in 3 years.

Probably won't be lurking on this website at that time. Actually need to go make a life instead of giving unrealistic advice to people out of my own loneliness and frustrations.

I lol'ed at this. As has been pointed out many times, you do know that a number of people in this thread are actual practicing attorneys in Texas who have been where you are now?

totesTheGoat · Post by **totesTheGoat** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:12 pm

Traynor Brah wrote:Cool but OP wants to practice in houston.

Also advising most anyone to go to Baylor should be a bannable offense.

Note that I didn't actually advise the OP to go to Baylor. In the current market, UT, SMU, and UH are the only schools with good regional job prospects. Degrees from other in-state schools have marginal prospects at best.

Limiting myself to only considering Baylor and South Texas, I'm just telling the OP that a South Texas degree has zero play in the north half of the state. For all I know, Baylor has the same issue in Houston, but I doubt it.

BrazilBandit · Post by **BrazilBandit** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 5:31 pm

please read this, OP...

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 1&t=247755

A@M_or_bust · Post by **A@M_or_bust** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 6:49 pm

BrazilBandit wrote:please read this, OP...

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 1&t=247755

I meant to post this. This is good.

timbs4339 · Post by **timbs4339** » Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:23 pm

What do you mean by "live comfortably?" What's the lowest starting salary you'd accept?

rougelove · Post by **rougelove** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 12:52 am

timbs4339 wrote:What do you mean by "live comfortably?" What's the lowest starting salary you'd accept?

50-60k. and I'm not going to be the sole earner in the household. my circumstance does not allow me to do certain things that these all-knowing TLSers are suggesting.

BigZuck · Post by **BigZuck** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 2:24 am

rougelove wrote:
timbs4339 wrote:What do you mean by "live comfortably?" What's the lowest starting salary you'd accept?
50-60k. and I'm not going to be the sole earner in the household. my circumstance does not allow me to do certain things that these all-knowing TLSers are suggesting.

Like what?

And what's an acceptable debt load for you on this 50-60K salary?

rougelove · Post by **rougelove** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:01 am

BigZuck wrote:
rougelove wrote:
timbs4339 wrote:What do you mean by "live comfortably?" What's the lowest starting salary you'd accept?
50-60k. and I'm not going to be the sole earner in the household. my circumstance does not allow me to do certain things that these all-knowing TLSers are suggesting.
Like what?

And what's an acceptable debt load for you on this 50-60K salary?

I just have to start law school this Spring and Baylor and South Texas are my two options.
Around 100k is acceptable, less is obviously preferred.

mornincounselor · Post by **mornincounselor** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:07 am

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rougelove · Post by **rougelove** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:29 am

mornincounselor wrote:
rougelove wrote: I just have to start law school this Spring and Baylor and South Texas are my two options.
Around 100k is acceptable, less is obviously preferred.

You're in luck OP. I actually have a "$100K off your next South Texas admission" coupon.

Would you like to retake it from me?

you can take your sarcasm elsewhere, try stand up comedy maybe? i have decent scholarship offers from both so please leave if you have nothing intelligent to shit out of your mouth.

kiwi4president · Post by **kiwi4president** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 7:55 am

I just graduated from UH and had a hard enough time finding work. So did many of my classmates. If I had gone to South Texas, it is highly unlikely I'd have ended up where I am now. Good luck op.

A@M_or_bust · Post by **A@M_or_bust** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 6:01 pm

rougelove wrote:
BigZuck wrote:
rougelove wrote:
timbs4339 wrote:What do you mean by "live comfortably?" What's the lowest starting salary you'd accept?
50-60k. and I'm not going to be the sole earner in the household. my circumstance does not allow me to do certain things that these all-knowing TLSers are suggesting.
Like what?

And what's an acceptable debt load for you on this 50-60K salary?
I just have to start law school this Spring and Baylor and South Texas are my two options.
Around 100k is acceptable, less is obviously preferred.

May we know why you "have to" start law school in the spring? This is a bit peculiar.

84651846190 · Post by **84651846190** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 6:25 pm

rougelove wrote:
BigZuck wrote:
rougelove wrote:
timbs4339 wrote:What do you mean by "live comfortably?" What's the lowest starting salary you'd accept?
50-60k. and I'm not going to be the sole earner in the household. my circumstance does not allow me to do certain things that these all-knowing TLSers are suggesting.
Like what?

And what's an acceptable debt load for you on this 50-60K salary?
I just have to start law school this Spring and Baylor and South Texas are my two options.
Around 100k is acceptable, less is obviously preferred.

Don't do it, man. Life is too short to make this kind of a far-reaching, terrible decision.

LittleGiants16 · Post by **LittleGiants16** » Mon Nov 02, 2015 11:31 am

rougelove wrote:
BigZuck wrote:
rougelove wrote:
timbs4339 wrote:What do you mean by "live comfortably?" What's the lowest starting salary you'd accept?
50-60k. and I'm not going to be the sole earner in the household. my circumstance does not allow me to do certain things that these all-knowing TLSers are suggesting.
Like what?

And what's an acceptable debt load for you on this 50-60K salary?
I just have to start law school this Spring and Baylor and South Texas are my two options.
Around 100k is acceptable, less is obviously preferred.

Look man, I understand that your hands may be tied right now for a variety of reasons. But, with that said, it really may be in your long term best interest to (at least) consider some other options. I get that you don't want to retake and you want to start this spring, but you're choosing between two schools that may not put you in the strongest position going forward.

Now, if you are truly dead set on going to law school in the spring, I would lean toward Baylor. I won't outright tell you to go there (I can't do that in good conscience), but that's where I lean.

totesTheGoat · Post by **totesTheGoat** » Mon Nov 02, 2015 2:26 pm

rougelove wrote: I just have to start law school this Spring and Baylor and South Texas are my two options.
Around 100k is acceptable, less is obviously preferred.

You need to be aware that law school costs much more than just tuition. Even if you think that you have cost of living under control, there are tons of law school related costs that can balloon out of control. I'm working at a good paying job (much more than the $12-15/hour jobs most students are able to work) during school and attending on a 50% scholarship, and I'll still end up with $95-100k student loans after graduation. By the basic math I did prior to law school, we should have been able to cash-flow it. However, reality set in and we'll be lucky to have less than 6 figures of debt when I graduate.

BigZuck · Post by **BigZuck** » Mon Nov 02, 2015 3:29 pm

totesTheGoat wrote:
rougelove wrote: I just have to start law school this Spring and Baylor and South Texas are my two options.
Around 100k is acceptable, less is obviously preferred.
You need to be aware that law school costs much more than just tuition. Even if you think that you have cost of living under control, there are tons of law school related costs that can balloon out of control. I'm working at a good paying job (much more than the $12-15/hour jobs most students are able to work) during school and attending on a 50% scholarship, and I'll still end up with $95-100k student loans after graduation. By the basic math I did prior to law school, we should have been able to cash-flow it. However, reality set in and we'll be lucky to have less than 6 figures of debt when I graduate.

Yeah I have a SO with a good job and pay only about 10K in tuition each year, I thought I would be in debt like 60K max

It'll be at least 90K, maybe closer to 95K. The interest alone is insane.

pleadthafif · Post by **pleadthafif** » Mon Nov 02, 2015 3:49 pm

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