UVA at sticker vs. William & Mary with full scholarship? Forum

[bjsesq]

Are you interested in all in US history, or history in general? If you are, are you aware of the graduate programs available at W&M (including a joint JD degree)?

Ya a Jd ma in history from Wm really seems like the credentials firms lust after

You fail to realize not everyone has the same career goals as yourself. Grow up.

What career goals does a JD/MA in history from William and Mary realistically advance?

[RCSOB657]

Are you interested in all in US history, or history in general? If you are, are you aware of the graduate programs available at W&M (including a joint JD degree)?

Ya a Jd ma in history from Wm really seems like the credentials firms lust after

You fail to realize not everyone has the same career goals as yourself. I was simply asking if this person was aware of additional information that may or may not relate his this person's goals or interests.

You know what, I give up. you 'are' a jack rabbit.

[baal hadad]

Are you interested in all in US history, or history in general? If you are, are you aware of the graduate programs available at W&M (including a joint JD degree)?

Ya a Jd ma in history from Wm really seems like the credentials firms lust after

You fail to realize not everyone has the same career goals as yourself. Grow up.

What career goals does a JD/MA in history from William and Mary realistically advance?

Should position you well for the burgeoning field of history law

[BigLawer]

I think people overdo the whole "out of your mind to pay sticker" when you are dealing with a T14/T10. I know tons of people at sticker at UVA and Duke. I don't know, I was fortunate enough to get a small scholarship and have a wife who could pay COL - but if I had these options - I would take UVA at sticker.

I also knew I wanted biglaw...

I went to a T14 with a 60k scholly and no UG debt. I currently sit at 215k in student debt, which prevents me from getting a decent home loan for at least the next decade. For every one of you, there are several of me.

I don't know exactly what you mean by the bolded. My scholarship was 90k and I will still be over 100k in debt when I graduate. But I am also happy I went to a school that have me a "good" (whatever that may mean) shot at biglaw.

OP, I think you should retake the LSAT (if that is a possibility) to see if you could get more money or use the UVA acceptance to try and get money from a lower T14.

[RCSOB657]

BJ, that may not mean anything to the OP. It does to me and others. I was just adding an additional consideration as OP chooses.

[RCSOB657]

Should position you well for the burgeoning field of history law

You mean like our entire legal system doesn't come from our history? Holy shit, news to me. What am I to do with my life now.

[bjsesq]

BJ, that may not mean anything to the OP. It does to me and others. I was just adding an additional consideration as OP chooses.

This didn't answer my question at all. What career goal does that program realistically advance?

[Mal Reynolds]

Should position you well for the burgeoning field of history law

You mean like our entire legal system doesn't come from our history? Holy shit, news to me. What am I to do with my life now.

[baal hadad]

Should position you well for the burgeoning field of history law

You mean like our entire legal system doesn't come from our history? Holy shit, news to me. What am I to do with my life now.

Yeah ur right I cited my history thesis about antebellum south the other day in a memo 2 partner about whether a securities "finder" would be exempt from registration under exchange act 15(a)(1) as a securities broker

[bjsesq]

BJ, that may not mean anything to the OP. It does to me and others. I was just adding an additional consideration as OP chooses.

This didn't answer my question at all. What career goal does that program realistically advance?

I'd really like an answer to this question.

[RCSOB657]

BJ, that may not mean anything to the OP. It does to me and others. I was just adding an additional consideration as OP chooses.

This didn't answer my question at all. What career goal does that program realistically advance?

Specifically to that program. Top of my head, people that may want to teach law/history, politicians, constitutional lawyers, general interest that just wants to study US History even if they don't want to use the masters as anything but additional education. Using the MA as a 'check off' for an additional starting GS level in federal lawyer jobs. Any of that is realistic, but yes you're right it's not necessary.

[bjsesq]

BJ, that may not mean anything to the OP. It does to me and others. I was just adding an additional consideration as OP chooses.

This didn't answer my question at all. What career goal does that program realistically advance?

Specifically to that program. Top of my head, people that may want to teach law/history, politicians, constitutional lawyers, general interest that just wants to study US History even if they don't want to use the masters as anything but additional education. Using the MA as a 'check off' for an additional starting GS level in federal lawyer jobs. Any of that is realistic, but yes you're right it's not necessary.

Not much of that is realistic or cost effective.

[baal hadad]

BJ, that may not mean anything to the OP. It does to me and others. I was just adding an additional consideration as OP chooses.

This didn't answer my question at all. What career goal does that program realistically advance?

Specifically to that program. Top of my head, people that may want to teach law/history, politicians, constitutional lawyers, general interest that just wants to study US History even if they don't want to use the masters as anything but additional education. Using the MA as a 'check off' for an additional starting GS level in federal lawyer jobs. Any of that is realistic, but yes you're right it's not necessary.

("Constitutional lawyers" feverishly inserting references to the manga carta in s 1983 police brutality filings)

[bjsesq]

I forget who the quote came from, but it goes something like: "If you want to practice constitutional law, go to Harvard in the 1970s."

[RCSOB657]

BJ, that may not mean anything to the OP. It does to me and others. I was just adding an additional consideration as OP chooses.

This didn't answer my question at all. What career goal does that program realistically advance?

Specifically to that program. Top of my head, people that may want to teach law/history, politicians, constitutional lawyers, general interest that just wants to study US History even if they don't want to use the masters as anything but additional education. Using the MA as a 'check off' for an additional starting GS level in federal lawyer jobs. Any of that is realistic, but yes you're right it's not necessary.

("Constitutional lawyers" feverishly inserting references to the manga carta in s 1983 police brutality filings)

Lawyers explaining the tie between the racist origin of a jim crow law passed in 1870 by a state legislature that wasn't finally removed until fought for and repealed by the same legislature in 2008?

[baal hadad]

In real life about a dozen lawyers actually care about that and they all went to Harvard in the 1970s

[Mal Reynolds]

Go to grad school and all of your dreams will come true!!

[Rowinguy2009]

William and Mary for free is 100% the way to go. Graduating law school and having little to no debt is awesome. I went to the other W&__ in Virginia for free, am now a graduate with a couple years experience, and I have not regretted my decision for a second (in fact -- I am very thankful that I did not follow this site's advice to go to a higher-ranked school with a partial scholly). I would pick William and Mary for free over Georgetown/Cornell at half price because, to reiterate, having no debt is awesome.

Sure there is some chance, maybe even a good chance, that you are not going to go straight from law school into your dream job. That's what happens with most people. But if you keep track of whatever that dream job is and play your cards intelligently, you should be able to pivot into the type of position you want eventually, and doing so will be made easier by the fact that you won't have 200k+ in debt to service (unless your dream job is academia/SCOTUS clerkship/constitutional law -- in which case retake and go to yale).

[Mal Reynolds]

Go to grad law school and all of your dreams will come true!!

[Rigo]

Are you interested at all in US history, or history in general? If you are, are you aware of the graduate programs available at W&M (including a joint JD degree)?

JD/MA in Russian Lit is TCR.

[Colonel_funkadunk]

Are you interested in all in US history, or history in general? If you are, are you aware of the graduate programs available at W&M (including a joint JD degree)?

Ya a Jd ma in history from Wm really seems like the credentials firms lust after

You fail to realize not everyone has the same career goals as yourself. I was simply asking if this person was aware of additional information that may or may not relate his this person's goals or interests.

but it was laughable how out of left field it was

[RCSOB657]

Are you interested in all in US history, or history in general? If you are, are you aware of the graduate programs available at W&M (including a joint JD degree)?

Ya a Jd ma in history from Wm really seems like the credentials firms lust after

You fail to realize not everyone has the same career goals as yourself. I was simply asking if this person was aware of additional information that may or may not relate his this person's goals or interests.

but it was laughable how out of left field it was

I will give you that. I'm interested in such things and pushed that interest on to OP because I am envious of OP's position. Obviously I posted originally because the history related graduate programs at W&M are extremely preftigious to people that may give a hoot about such things. Probably should have known OP likely doesn't give a hoot about such things. I do find it humorous dude with that name, picture, and location reference claims to not give a hoot about the past.

[baal hadad]

I love history

But it has 0 relevance to my atty work

[bjsesq]

Lots of hoots being given.

[suralin]

This is a hilarious thread, ty OP.