Horrible conduct by deans at Penn State Dickenson Forum

[Danger Zone]

Let's face it: he definitely is confirmed flame.

[Rigo]

I thought that was confirmed flame?

Just reminding TLS why OP's panties are in a bunch over this TRAVESTY at Penn State.

[A. Nony Mouse]

We actually know a lot based on what Penn State chose not to deny. They did not deny that the dean 1) threatened to expel the student's boyfriend when he said the student was innocent, that the dean interrogated him for 2 hours and that after he did testify against his girlfriend he said he felt coerced to by the dean; 2) that the dean, incredibly, claimed not to have taken any notes in interviews (so she would not have to hand them over), 3) that the late submission of the exam was not pursued until the student refused to confess to another allegation, 4) that the school refused to turn over 10 years of honor court records and that, had they done so, a violation relating to the dean would have been revealed.

That's a lot of bad stuff the school is not denying and if they are not denying it, I think we can assume it true. They certainly seem to deny everything they can (as they should). So I think we have a pretty clear picture of a vindictive bully running amok. Doesn't sound like the kind of place I'd want to go to school even if it could get its students jobs.

Yeah, they don't admit those things happened the way the student alleges they happened.

[BVest]

We actually know a lot based on what Penn State chose not to deny. They did not deny that the dean 1) threatened to expel the student's boyfriend when he said the student was innocent, that the dean interrogated him for 2 hours and that after he did testify against his girlfriend he said he felt coerced to by the dean; 2) that the dean, incredibly, claimed not to have taken any notes in interviews (so she would not have to hand them over), 3) that the late submission of the exam was not pursued until the student refused to confess to another allegation, 4) that the school refused to turn over 10 years of honor court records and that, had they done so, a violation relating to the dean would have been revealed.

That's a lot of bad stuff the school is not denying and if they are not denying it, I think we can assume it true. They certainly seem to deny everything they can (as they should). So I think we have a pretty clear picture of a vindictive bully running amok. Doesn't sound like the kind of place I'd want to go to school even if it could get its students jobs.

Yeah, they don't admit those things happened the way the student alleges they happened.

Indeed. For example "Let me remind you that failure to report an honor code violation is itself an honor code violation as serious as the unreported violation" could certainly become, in a pleading, threatening to expel (or whatever the most severe applicable punishment would be under the honor code) for failure to implicate. But I don't know if that's the case (and neither does anyone else in this forum, or at least no one has disclosed their personal knowledge of facts).

I will say that I, literally more frequently than not, get error messages when I try to submit my exam because the exam software generally times out on its attempted submissions prior to my computer regaining its network connection. When this happens, I always present it to the proctor and allow them to watch as I attempt to resubmit it until it finally goes through. (Not examsoft, but a competitor). So I don't think her story is that unbelievable if there were no other evidence -- but of course there is other evidence; a factfinder could compare the two submitted versions of the exam to see if there were changes made.


ETA (I don't think Exam4 allows any further changes after the first time you hit submit... at least it tells you something like "By clicking submit, you understand that no further changes can be made." And it seems it would be pretty crappy test software if it did let you make further changes, considering that by that point your home screen icons have popped back up and are presumably accessible. But, of course, I haven't tried to make any further changes after hitting submit either, so I don't really know.)

[03152016]

I will say that I, literally more frequently than not, get error messages when I try to submit my exam because the exam software generally times out on its attempted submissions prior to my computer regaining its network connection. When this happens, I always present it to the proctor and allow them to watch as I attempt to resubmit it until it finally goes through. (Not examsoft, but a competitor).

this is making me break out in hives
is it exam4

[BVest]

I will say that I, literally more frequently than not, get error messages when I try to submit my exam because the exam software generally times out on its attempted submissions prior to my computer regaining its network connection. When this happens, I always present it to the proctor and allow them to watch as I attempt to resubmit it until it finally goes through. (Not examsoft, but a competitor).

this is making me break out in hives
is it exam4

Yes. But after the first couple times it happened, it doesn't alarm me any more because I expect it (and pretty much plan to present it to the proctor before I even take the exam). The proctors all have seen it happen lots of times too, so they expect it.

[AReasonableMan]

I will say that I, literally more frequently than not, get error messages when I try to submit my exam because the exam software generally times out on its attempted submissions prior to my computer regaining its network connection. When this happens, I always present it to the proctor and allow them to watch as I attempt to resubmit it until it finally goes through. (Not examsoft, but a competitor).

this is making me break out in hives
is it exam4

Yes. But after the first couple times it happened, it doesn't alarm me any more because I expect it (and pretty much plan to present it to the proctor before I even take the exam). The proctors all have seen it happen lots of times too, so they expect it.

What benefit does the exam software serve? My school does not have it, but if the problems are as widespread as the internet makes them out to be, it would make exam soft luck a big factor in grades.