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Re: UF or take a year off

Post by ManoftheHour » Wed Aug 06, 2014 3:10 pm

Don't go to UF period unless:

-You have a full ride (or close to it there).
-You want to work in Florida.
-You are okay with working at a small firm/government job and have no big law aspirations/expectations.

http://www.lstscorereports.com/schools/florida/2013/

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Re: UF or take a year off

Post by applyinglate » Wed Aug 06, 2014 3:12 pm

ManoftheHour wrote:Don't go to UF period unless:

-You have a full ride (or close to it there).
-You want to work in Florida.
-You are okay with working at a small firm/government job and have no big law aspirations/expectations.

http://www.lstscorereports.com/schools/florida/2013/
-You have a full ride (or close to it there). - Ok I have this
-You want to work in Florida. - I do not want to work in Florida.
-You are okay with working at a small firm/government job and have no big law aspirations/expectations. - I would much rather work mid-size in the beginning. But possibly open to biglaw.

Please advise.

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Re: UF or take a year off

Post by Geaux12 » Wed Aug 06, 2014 3:13 pm

applyinglate wrote:
ManoftheHour wrote:Don't go to UF period unless:

-You have a full ride (or close to it there).
-You want to work in Florida.
-You are okay with working at a small firm/government job and have no big law aspirations/expectations.

http://www.lstscorereports.com/schools/florida/2013/
-You have a full ride (or close to it there). - Ok I have this
-You want to work in Florida. - I do not want to work in Florida.
-You are okay with working at a small firm/government job and have no big law aspirations/expectations. - I would much rather work mid-size in the beginning. But possibly open to biglaw.

Please advise.
You've been advised. Retake. You're not going to get to California from UF. I'm telling you this as someone in Gainesville, with intimate knowledge of the job opportunities at this school.

Are you just waiting for someone to tell you that it's a good idea to go to Florida? That everything will be just fine?

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Re: UF or take a year off

Post by applyinglate » Wed Aug 06, 2014 3:16 pm

Geaux12 wrote:
applyinglate wrote:
ManoftheHour wrote:Don't go to UF period unless:

-You have a full ride (or close to it there).
-You want to work in Florida.
-You are okay with working at a small firm/government job and have no big law aspirations/expectations.

http://www.lstscorereports.com/schools/florida/2013/
-You have a full ride (or close to it there). - Ok I have this
-You want to work in Florida. - I do not want to work in Florida.
-You are okay with working at a small firm/government job and have no big law aspirations/expectations. - I would much rather work mid-size in the beginning. But possibly open to biglaw.

Please advise.
You've been advised. Retake. You're not going to get to California from UF. I'm telling you this as someone in Gainesville, with intimate knowledge of the job opportunities at this school.

Are you just waiting for someone to tell you that it's a good idea to go to Florida? That everything will be just fine?
Just have a lot of pressure to go there for, 1- really cheap for a law degree, 2- not delaying a year.
Honestly, I do want to take a year off, and I feel like I could do better than UF to go to Cali. Even Pepperdine might be a better idea, considering the location.

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Re: UF or take a year off

Post by ManoftheHour » Wed Aug 06, 2014 3:18 pm

applyinglate wrote:
ManoftheHour wrote:Don't go to UF period unless:

-You have a full ride (or close to it there).
-You want to work in Florida.
-You are okay with working at a small firm/government job and have no big law aspirations/expectations.

http://www.lstscorereports.com/schools/florida/2013/
-You have a full ride (or close to it there). - Ok I have this
-You want to work in Florida. - I do not want to work in Florida.
-You are okay with working at a small firm/government job and have no big law aspirations/expectations. - I would much rather work mid-size in the beginning. But possibly open to biglaw.

Please advise.
Then don't go to Florida. I would at the very least reapply and see if you can get UCI/UC Davis for free. Those are significantly better options. With your stats as they are now, you should be competitive for such offers. You could also, of course, retake while you reapply. If you score higher, you'll have even better options at USC/UCLA with $$$ or T-14s.

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Re: UF or take a year off

Post by applyinglate » Wed Aug 06, 2014 3:20 pm

ManoftheHour wrote:
applyinglate wrote:
ManoftheHour wrote:Don't go to UF period unless:

-You have a full ride (or close to it there).
-You want to work in Florida.
-You are okay with working at a small firm/government job and have no big law aspirations/expectations.

http://www.lstscorereports.com/schools/florida/2013/
-You have a full ride (or close to it there). - Ok I have this
-You want to work in Florida. - I do not want to work in Florida.
-You are okay with working at a small firm/government job and have no big law aspirations/expectations. - I would much rather work mid-size in the beginning. But possibly open to biglaw.

Please advise.
Then don't go to Florida. I would at the very least reapply and see if you can get UCI/UC Davis for free. Those are significantly better options. With your stats as they are now, you should be competitive for such offers. You could also, of course, retake while you reapply. If you score higher, you'll have even better options at USC/UCLA with $$$ or T-14s.
Yeah that's what I'm going to do. I didn't apply to those schools at the time. Yeah UF makes no sense unless I wanted to stay in FL.

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Re: UF or take a year off

Post by Nomo » Wed Aug 06, 2014 3:27 pm

applyinglate wrote:Thanks guys... Im just going to retake. U r right.

Should I retake in oct or december? I can apply first day regardless with this score and update it right after...

I haven't been studying at all since last december.
You should take it when you've reached a point where you don't think your scores on practice tests can improve anymore. Whenever that happens its time to reatake the LSAT. Its fine to sign up for September or December. But if you get to test day and you still think you have room to improve you should not take the test. Don't sell yourself short on this test. Every point makes a serious difference.

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Re: UF or take a year off

Post by Yea All Right » Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:40 pm

Californian here (who incidentally chose Cornell and plans on coming back after). Don't go to UF if you wanna practice in California! Study hard, retake for a higher score, and seriously capitalize on your URM status; good luck.

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Re: UF or take a year off

Post by TheSpanishMain » Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:45 pm

applyinglate wrote:Serious questions: Would me going to UF for basically free be a waste of my URM boost?

Is it really worth it to retake?

I would probably have to hustle to go to California after, but is it worth it?

No.
It is not worth it. I'm not sure why you keep asking the same question over and over. If you want to work in CA, you shouldn't accept anything less than UCLA/USC with a scholarship. You have to retake the LSAT. There is no way around it.

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Re: UF or take a year off

Post by Johann » Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:54 pm

ManoftheHour wrote:
applyinglate wrote:25... so starting at 26... I have friends who went and are 21....
I have two friends who went K-JD and one who took a year off. All three are massively in debt. One is still jobless after taking USC at sticker. One is currently unemployed and has 80k of debt at a CA TTT. The other is a 3L at a CA TTT (paying sticker).

I'd rather be the 25/26 year old guy who went to a good school or decent school for free.
this. i went K-JD and it took me 3 more years of scrapping to get where i wanted/could have just gotten if i had sat out a cycle or 2. also got lucky.

going to UF will add at a minimum 1 year of post grad work to reach any of your goals, and not even close to guaranteed then.

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Re: UF or take a year off

Post by Chrstgtr » Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:56 pm

applyinglate wrote:
Geaux12 wrote:
applyinglate wrote:
ManoftheHour wrote:Don't go to UF period unless:

-You have a full ride (or close to it there).
-You want to work in Florida.
-You are okay with working at a small firm/government job and have no big law aspirations/expectations.

http://www.lstscorereports.com/schools/florida/2013/
-You have a full ride (or close to it there). - Ok I have this
-You want to work in Florida. - I do not want to work in Florida.
-You are okay with working at a small firm/government job and have no big law aspirations/expectations. - I would much rather work mid-size in the beginning. But possibly open to biglaw.

Please advise.
You've been advised. Retake. You're not going to get to California from UF. I'm telling you this as someone in Gainesville, with intimate knowledge of the job opportunities at this school.

Are you just waiting for someone to tell you that it's a good idea to go to Florida? That everything will be just fine?
Just have a lot of pressure to go there for, 1- really cheap for a law degree, 2- not delaying a year.
Honestly, I do want to take a year off, and I feel like I could do better than UF to go to Cali. Even Pepperdine might be a better idea, considering the location.
1-Avoid a retake
2-Get to California
3-Get big law

You can only chose two (If you go to UF, you probably only get 1). Your choice.

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Re: UF or take a year off

Post by Ti Malice » Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:46 pm

applyinglate wrote:
withoutapaddle wrote:The test is in September and Decemeber.

They changed the date due to a holiday
End of September I'm guessing?
Not enough time, right? Should I apply first day, and take December?
The September test is too close at this point. What's most important is getting the highest possible score. With the massive contraction of the applicant pool over the last several years, schools are desperate to preserve their medians, and applying early is not nearly as important as it used to be.

Start studying very soon (now) so you can wring every possible point out of the test. With the right score, you could save yourself as much as $210-230K of high-interest, non-dischargeable debt at the start of repayment. And bear in mind that taking on more than ~$100K of total debt at repayment to attend UCLA or USC is not economically reasonable.

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Re: UF or take a year off

Post by Ti Malice » Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:54 pm

Chrstgtr wrote:
1-Avoid a retake
2-Get to California
3-Get big law

You can only chose two (If you go to UF, you probably only get 1). Your choice.
This is kind of an overcomplicated yet not entirely accurate way of stating things. He's not likely to get BigLaw with any of his present options.

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Re: UF or take a year off

Post by Chrstgtr » Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:52 pm

Ti Malice wrote:
Chrstgtr wrote:
1-Avoid a retake
2-Get to California
3-Get big law

You can only chose two (If you go to UF, you probably only get 1). Your choice.
This is kind of an overcomplicated yet not entirely accurate way of stating things. He's not likely to get BigLaw with any of his present options.
His current option is UF or nothing. If he sits out, retakes, and reapplies with a higher LSAT he is likely to get a T14 (and possibly money at a T14 if score goes up 3 points). At a T14 he can get to Cali with big law. All he needs to do is retake and improve a few points.

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Re: UF or take a year off

Post by applyinglate » Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:14 pm

I agree, it isn't worth it.

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Re: UF or take a year off

Post by withoutapaddle » Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:35 pm

OP do you live on your own? if so, you know how hard it is to save even if you make 55K a year after all is said and done.

Imagine throwing a 1600+ law school payment on top of that.

Take a year off, save money, and apply

Maybe you'll get money next year at Cornell

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Re: UF or take a year off

Post by Geaux12 » Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:50 pm

withoutapaddle wrote:OP do you live on your own? if so, you know how hard it is to save even if you make 55K a year after all is said and done.

Imagine throwing a 1600+ law school payment on top of that.

Take a year off, save money, and apply

Maybe you'll get money next year at Cornell
If he makes $55k, he'll be PAYE-ing that shit.

But this thread needs to die. OP isn't going to UF. That would be dumb.

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Re: UF or take a year off

Post by applyinglate » Fri Aug 08, 2014 4:03 pm

I do live on my own. its crazy.


I officially dropped. Thanks for all the help, everyone.

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