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Re: Quarter System Vs Semester System

Post by Attax » Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:40 pm

BigZuck wrote:From listening to my cointern it sounds like Baylor's RIGOR schtick is little more than an elaborate hazing ritual. She also has kind of a chip on her shoulder and is a bit of a gunner, but that might just be cuz she's a law student.

She's a real person who totally went there. I also hear bad things from attorneys who went there and then sometimes from people who post in elaborate detail on here. There are also the employment stats, which are pretty mediocre. No doubt there are some good solid anecdotes to be found just like any school. But if it does confer an advantage on its grads, that advantage is not born out in its capacity to help students get jobs. And if Baylor grads do have some sort of advantage right out of the gate because they have heard the words "discovery" before or whatever I would assume grads from other schools would catch up and be on the same level in a couple months or so. I just don't see any reason for Baylor law to exist, TBH.
To be fair, I do think there is one legit reason Baylor law exists: small law. My home town is highly saturated with lawyers (EDTX area) most of who graduated from Baylor. I think that if you have connection to such an area where going to a small firm or hanging your own shingle isn't a terrible idea that Baylor does a good job via the PC of establishing you for a career there. Although, I don't think the advantage is worth the premium price, it could be if that's your goal and you have very small debt coming out.

Ofc, this is also just an anecdote in itself, but really is the only legitimate reason I can see for going to Baylor.

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Re: Quarter System Vs Semester System

Post by BigZuck » Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:47 pm

Attax wrote:
BigZuck wrote:From listening to my cointern it sounds like Baylor's RIGOR schtick is little more than an elaborate hazing ritual. She also has kind of a chip on her shoulder and is a bit of a gunner, but that might just be cuz she's a law student.

She's a real person who totally went there. I also hear bad things from attorneys who went there and then sometimes from people who post in elaborate detail on here. There are also the employment stats, which are pretty mediocre. No doubt there are some good solid anecdotes to be found just like any school. But if it does confer an advantage on its grads, that advantage is not born out in its capacity to help students get jobs. And if Baylor grads do have some sort of advantage right out of the gate because they have heard the words "discovery" before or whatever I would assume grads from other schools would catch up and be on the same level in a couple months or so. I just don't see any reason for Baylor law to exist, TBH.
To be fair, I do think there is one legit reason Baylor law exists: small law. My home town is highly saturated with lawyers (EDTX area) most of who graduated from Baylor. I think that if you have connection to such an area where going to a small firm or hanging your own shingle isn't a terrible idea that Baylor does a good job via the PC of establishing you for a career there. Although, I don't think the advantage is worth the premium price, it could be if that's your goal and you have very small debt coming out.

Ofc, this is also just an anecdote in itself, but really is the only legitimate reason I can see for going to Baylor.
Yeah, I thought about small law/legal aid, stuff like that when I typed that. I would think there would be enough unemployed UT/UH/SMU grads to fill that gap. Baylor goes away, the person who wants small law in east Texas goes to SMU instead (or wherever) and then it's all good. I'm not convinced PC makes a difference.

But lets not talk about systematic changes to the entire legal system. Lets stick to the topic at hand- don't go to Baylor or Chicago.

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Re: Quarter System Vs Semester System

Post by chuckbass » Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:51 pm

BigZuck wrote: But lets not talk about systematic changes to the entire legal system. Lets stick to the topic at hand- don't go to Baylor or Chicago.
Stanford is on the quarter system too right? OP - don't go to Baylor or Chicago or Stanford.

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Re: Quarter System Vs Semester System

Post by Attax » Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:53 pm

BigZuck wrote:
Yeah, I thought about small law/legal aid, stuff like that when I typed that. I would think there would be enough unemployed UT/UH/SMU grads to fill that gap. Baylor goes away, the person who wants small law in east Texas goes to SMU instead (or wherever) and then it's all good. I'm not convinced PC makes a difference.

But lets not talk about systematic changes to the entire legal system. Lets stick to the topic at hand- don't go to Baylor or Chicago.
True, although there is a strong sense of tradition that may hold Baylor in higher esteem. I know one of my mentors when applying told me that UT and Baylor were the only worthwhile schools to attend in Texas, so it may hold some place.

But, even though I completely ignored that, I agree. Don't go. You will have better or similar outcomes, more often for cheaper, out of SMU/UH/UT and maybe even TTU.

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Re: Quarter System Vs Semester System

Post by shifty_eyed » Sat Jul 12, 2014 8:33 pm

If you want real experience in law school, you can just do a clinic. I don't see the need for Practice Court.

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