School A versus School B Forum

Nucky · Post by **Nucky** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 2:06 am

PH14, just COL so about $45k before interest. I'll probably pay it off upon graduation so I can start my career completely debt free. I have assets I can sell. I'd sell them now and not take any loans at all but I expect them to appreciate faster than my loans accumulate interest, and if they don't ill pivot, but that's another topic

ph14 · Post by **ph14** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 2:07 am

Nucky wrote:PH14, just COL so about $45k before interest. I'll probably pay it off upon graduation so I can start my career completely debt free. I have assets I can sell. I'd sell them now and not take any loans at all but I expect them to appreciate faster than my loans accumulate interest, and if they don't ill pivot, but that's another topic

Just be careful you don't under-estimate COL (i'm not saying that you are; it's just something that I think is common). I'm pretty strongly in the School B camp. As long as you think you would be happy being there for 3 years.

Nucky · Post by **Nucky** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 2:14 am

ph14 wrote:
Nucky wrote:PH14, just COL so about $45k before interest. I'll probably pay it off upon graduation so I can start my career completely debt free. I have assets I can sell. I'd sell them now and not take any loans at all but I expect them to appreciate faster than my loans accumulate interest, and if they don't ill pivot, but that's another topic
Just be careful you don't estimate COL (i'm not saying that you are; it's just something that I think is common). I'm pretty strongly in the School B camp. As long as you think you would be happy being there for 3 years.

I agree with you guys. Not sure how happy I'll be. I've visited both campuses and they're both great. I just won't know anyone at School B for hundreds of miles. But it seems like law schools in general do a good job of providing opportunities to get to know your classmates and make new friends. At least I hope so. I do have a dog so that'll help.

Thank you all for your input. Going to call it a night but please feel free to chime in with additional thoughts. Especially anyone in the School A camp. Ill catch up with you guys in the morning if there are any other responses. Thanks again!

ph14 · Post by **ph14** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 2:17 am

Nucky wrote:
ph14 wrote:
Nucky wrote:PH14, just COL so about $45k before interest. I'll probably pay it off upon graduation so I can start my career completely debt free. I have assets I can sell. I'd sell them now and not take any loans at all but I expect them to appreciate faster than my loans accumulate interest, and if they don't ill pivot, but that's another topic
Just be careful you don't estimate COL (i'm not saying that you are; it's just something that I think is common). I'm pretty strongly in the School B camp. As long as you think you would be happy being there for 3 years.
I agree with you guys. Not sure how happy I'll be. I've visited both campuses and they're both great. I just won't know anyone at School B for hundreds of miles. But it seems like law schools in general do a good job of providing opportunities to get to know your classmates and make new friends. At least I hope so. I do have a dog so that'll help.

Thank you all for your input. Going to call it a night but please feel free to chime in with additional thoughts. Especially anyone in the School A camp. Ill catch up with you guys in the morning if there are any other responses. Thanks again!

Many/most people don't know anyone in the area if they're moving a long way for law school. But don't worry, you will get the opportunity to make lots of friends with law school. Especially with your section during 1L, you get to know most of the people and make some great friends. You also might know some people from TLS ahead of time.

ilikebaseball · Post by **ilikebaseball** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 2:18 am

Nucky wrote:
ph14 wrote:
Nucky wrote:PH14, just COL so about $45k before interest. I'll probably pay it off upon graduation so I can start my career completely debt free. I have assets I can sell. I'd sell them now and not take any loans at all but I expect them to appreciate faster than my loans accumulate interest, and if they don't ill pivot, but that's another topic
Just be careful you don't estimate COL (i'm not saying that you are; it's just something that I think is common). I'm pretty strongly in the School B camp. As long as you think you would be happy being there for 3 years.
I agree with you guys. Not sure how happy I'll be. I've visited both campuses and they're both great. I just won't know anyone at School B for hundreds of miles. But it seems like law schools in general do a good job of providing opportunities to get to know your classmates and make new friends. At least I hope so. I do have a dog so that'll help.

Thank you all for your input. Going to call it a night but please feel free to chime in with additional thoughts. Especially anyone in the School A camp. Ill catch up with you guys in the morning if there are any other responses. Thanks again!

Definitely don't look at it like "I wont know a soul for hundreds of miles." You'll meet so many new people and get to make a ton of new contacts. I went to UG where no one from my high school went and within 48 hours of being on campus had a group of friends. I loved it. In a sense, you are free to be yourself without having to worry about drama because its brand new people. DEFINITELY dont let the lack of friends/family hinder you into not going there and getting your legal education, especially with a full ride.

UnicornHunter · Post by **UnicornHunter** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 2:22 am

Go Irish

cron1834 · Post by **cron1834** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 2:58 am

I echo the sentiment that School B's placement power is questionable, sight unseen. There are no NATIONAL schools outside of the T14. Even the very best non-T14s are limited in their geography. Vandy and UT have pretty reasonable numbers, but if you have no connections to the south and Texas respectively, you can't just extrapolate their job percentages and apply those odds to your case. ND is not national either, if that's B.

Dude, I wouldn't take either of these options tbh. $100k is too much for a T50 (not sure that's a thing) and I wouldn't go to a school that can't place where I want to work/can work even for free.

03152016 · Post by **03152016** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 3:13 am

cron1834 wrote:I echo the sentiment that School B's placement power is questionable, sight unseen. There are no NATIONAL schools outside of the T14. Even the very best non-T14s are limited in their geography. Vandy and UT have pretty reasonable numbers, but if you have no connections to the south and Texas respectively, you can't just extrapolate their job percentages and apply those odds to your case. ND is not national either, if that's B.

Dude, I wouldn't take either of these options tbh. $100k is too much for a T50 (not sure that's a thing) and I wouldn't go to a school that can't place where I want to work/can work even for free.

yea this is a good point
i think the t50 is definitely a bad call
as for the t25, when recruiting season comes around are you going to target firms in an area you know you don't want to live (that sounds horrible)
maybe talk to people at that school and see how hard it is to get to wherever you actually want to land

The Dark Shepard · Post by **The Dark Shepard** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 3:17 am

My bet on school B is W&M

Lord Randolph McDuff · Post by **Lord Randolph McDuff** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:04 pm

There is usually zero difference between a "T25" and a "T50," but ND is an exception. It's a better school that does have a more national brand, I'd say it's more like a WUSTL and certainly better than Minn, despite the USNEWS and their silly formula.

Full ride to ND is better than a discount to UF unless you are dead set on practicing in Florida.

Nucky · Post by **Nucky** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 7:50 pm

Thanks for the additional input. Though some of the more recent stuff is school specific and I won't address that.

Decisions, decisions.

chuckbass · Post by **chuckbass** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:04 pm

Nucky wrote:Thanks for the additional input. Though some of the more recent stuff is school specific and I won't address that.

Decisions, decisions.

Well I mean it's school specific because none of us would really make this decision based on just the info you provided. I wouldn't attend Alabama on a full ride, but I would attend ND on a full ride. It really depends on which schools you're referring to. Good luck with that decision though.

Lord Randolph McDuff · Post by **Lord Randolph McDuff** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:28 pm

I haven't been out of LS long AND I post on TLS and I can't even tell you what schools are T25. It's not a thing.

It's really hard to give advice if you don't out the school.

Really should have made this an anon topic, eh Nucky?

EDIT: just glanced at rankings and if it's Bamer, UW, or Minn those schools are peer schools to UF, only difference is gaming rankings and location.

Ruxin1 · Post by **Ruxin1** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:28 pm

Woostle gives these type of full rides just do that bro

Nucky · Post by **Nucky** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:32 pm

Lord Randolph McDuff wrote:I haven't been out of LS long AND I post on TLS and I can't even tell you what schools are T25. It's not a thing.

It's really hard to give advice if you don't out the school.

Really should have made this an anon topic, eh Nucky?

Probably. Ha.

I really wish I could out it since I have managed to gather a solid group of TLSers ITT. But it really is a close call. I just have to take a leap of faith. Probably into the full ride pool.

jk148706 · Post by **jk148706** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:42 pm

BigZuck · Post by **BigZuck** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:47 pm

I want to play!

SMU vs Indiana?

Tempted to say SMU vs W&L but not sure Nucks would label W&L a "T25."

I vote "Neither, retake" unless and until we know the schools for sure.

Nucky · Post by **Nucky** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:51 pm

BigZuck wrote:I want to play!

SMU vs Indiana?

Tempted to say SMU vs W&L but not sure Nucks would label W&L a "T25."

I vote "Neither, retake" unless and until we know the schools for sure.

I'd retake until LSAC filed for a restraining order or I got a 180 if I could. But that'd mean sitting out two years and I'm not prepared to do that with solid options on the table and no guarantee of an increase. I'm a splitter also, and somewhat of a big one so my GPA likely auto DQs me from a lot of top schools. Also, if publications like Slate have their way apps may go up by my next cycle and I'll be left a little older with worse options than I have now. So I've decided to go with one of these.

Also, thanks for playing! Haha.

jk148706 · Post by **jk148706** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:53 pm

chuckbass · Post by **chuckbass** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:54 pm

jk148706 wrote:
BigZuck wrote:I want to play!

SMU vs Indiana?

Tempted to say SMU vs W&L but not sure Nucks would label W&L a "T25."

I vote "Neither, retake" unless and until we know the schools for sure.
Bro, both school A and B are college towns. Get SMU outta here

Also it's obviously ND (I think hue hue)

BigZuck · Post by **BigZuck** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:55 pm

jk148706 wrote:
BigZuck wrote:I want to play!

SMU vs Indiana?

Tempted to say SMU vs W&L but not sure Nucks would label W&L a "T25."

I vote "Neither, retake" unless and until we know the schools for sure.
Bro, both school A and B are college towns. Get SMU outta here

Damn it

You're right bro, you're right. I suck at this. He said "ties." I was thinking LSU but that's not a T50 (and is Baton Rouge even a college town?)

jk148706 · Post by **jk148706** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:56 pm

jk148706 · Post by **jk148706** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:56 pm

Nucky · Post by **Nucky** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:59 pm

May change topic to CSI: Nucky's Dilemma

NYSprague · Post by **NYSprague** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:03 pm

Don't make decisions because you fear applications will increase. Law school is too expensive and people understand employment much better than a few years ago.

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