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[JustHawkin]

You probably won't have a significantly better sense of direction 12 months from now.

WTF... worst advise ever.
If you don't know what you want, take some time and figure it out. Law school will be there.

[cron1834]

You probably won't have a significantly better sense of direction 12 months from now.

WTF... worst advise ever.
If you don't know what you want, take some time and figure it out. Law school will be there.

I meant that in reference to practice areas, genius. I'm presuming that law school is the goal here, as there's been no intimation otherwise. God forbid he should have a named full tuition scholarship (which might not be offered to him again) while he spends 1L figuring out what kind of lawyer he wants to be...

[bjsesq]

I would Dillard.

[worldtraveler]

You are the poster child for somebody who should take a couple years off and go do something interesting.

[Maui53]

It seems like even if you received an admit from either Columbia or Chicago you will not be happy if they offer little or no money. You do not appear to be the sort of person who lets themselves be happy about what they have, but would rather find fault and pine about what they do not have.

If UVA with Dillard is not enough, why even apply to UVA? Take time off and get your goals straight.

[cron1834]

I agree that it changes the dynamic if OP is considering other career opportunities. That said, I have to believe that someone who retook and is willing to pay not-unsubstantial $ for a consulting service to maximize chances is in fact intending to become a lawyer. OP isn't some TTT nitwit, and a named T14 scholarship is the least risky option in the entire law school admissions game.

Maui - that is a fair point re: why UVA.

[Maui53]

I think or why not UVA? The OP already had a tussle with Penn over money (bungled?) and withdrew. The OP declined NYU with $62,500. I would not hold out great hope of matching the Dillard off either Columbia or Chicago waitlist (or even half of the Dillard). If either UVA or Charlottesville are not to the OP's taste, then the OP should take time off.

[TheSpanishMain]

I think the Dillard is a fantastic deal and would take it. If your goals are the generic "Big Law for a few years and then something else after" then you really can't do better than a full tuition named scholarship at a T14. If the Dillard doesn't flip your cookie, then maybe you're just ambivalent about the whole thing and need to evaluate whether those are still your goals.

[jbagelboy]

If UVA with Dillard is not enough, why even apply to UVA? Take time off and get your goals straight.

This is actually an important statement: why apply to a school at all if the best outcome you could have with that school is insufficient to attend? I understand apply to schools for negotiation, but you can't negotiate a Dillard anyway. I feel like if you applied to UVA, at some point you must have thought it would be "good enough" to attend on some level of tuition - this being free - and now you are simply questioning that reasoning because you have been on TLS too long and inappropriately compared yourself to others.

Sure, some people with your LSAT score and GPA got into other schools. But a shitload of them did not get a Dillard scholarship. Your cycle need not replicate some paradigm.

[Mack.Hambleton]

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[prezidentv8]

I'd be curious to hear the Penn story.

[Maui53]

If UVA with Dillard is not enough, why even apply to UVA? Take time off and get your goals straight.

This is actually an important statement: why apply to a school at all if the best outcome you could have with that school is insufficient to attend? I understand apply to schools for negotiation, but you can't negotiate a Dillard anyway. I feel like if you applied to UVA, at some point you must have thought it would be "good enough" to attend on some level of tuition - this being free - and now you are simply questioning that reasoning because you have been on TLS too long and inappropriately compared yourself to others.

Sure, some people with your LSAT score and GPA got into other schools. But a shitload of them did not get a Dillard scholarship. Your cycle need not replicate some paradigm.

I agree and reading OP's other statements, I think OP is not mature enough to attend law school at this point in time. It is not as if OP got a full ride to Temple or a partial scholarship to NYU. The Op received a decent offer from NYU. He is waiting to hear from Columbia and waitlisted at Chicago, but he appears to think he might get a half scholarship out of one if not both of these unknown outcomes.

On LSN the best scholarship form Columbia Law, posted by an accepted applicant with a 172 LSAT and above 3.71, is 90k. For Chicago there is one applicant at 250k with a 3.93 gpa and another at 200k for a 4.0 gpa, both awarded back in Feb a couple of others in January at 185k and 165k. The next highest award from Chicago was 90k. So for OP to hold out hope form two speculative outcomes is just unrealistic.

I stand by my advice, take one or two years off. Save your money and find a more clear direction for your future.

[anyriotgirl]

If UVA with Dillard is not enough, why even apply to UVA? Take time off and get your goals straight.

This is actually an important statement: why apply to a school at all if the best outcome you could have with that school is insufficient to attend? I understand apply to schools for negotiation, but you can't negotiate a Dillard anyway. I feel like if you applied to UVA, at some point you must have thought it would be "good enough" to attend on some level of tuition - this being free - and now you are simply questioning that reasoning because you have been on TLS too long and inappropriately compared yourself to others.

Sure, some people with your LSAT score and GPA got into other schools. But a shitload of them did not get a Dillard scholarship. Your cycle need not replicate some paradigm.

I agree and reading OP's other statements, I think OP is not mature enough to attend law school at this point in time. It is not as if OP got a full ride to Temple or a partial scholarship to NYU. The Op received a decent offer from NYU. He is waiting to hear from Columbia and waitlisted at Chicago, but he appears to think he might get a half scholarship out of one if not both of these unknown outcomes.

On LSN the best scholarship form Columbia Law, posted by an accepted applicant with a 172 LSAT and above 3.71, is 90k. For Chicago there is one applicant at 250k with a 3.93 gpa and another at 200k for a 4.0 gpa, both awarded back in Feb a couple of others in January at 185k and 165k. The next highest award from Chicago was 90k. So for OP to hold out hope form two speculative outcomes is just unrealistic.

I stand by my advice, take one or two years off. Save your money and find a more clear direction for your future.

watch out the k-jd army is gonna put a hit on you for that one

[Maui53]

If UVA with Dillard is not enough, why even apply to UVA? Take time off and get your goals straight.

This is actually an important statement: why apply to a school at all if the best outcome you could have with that school is insufficient to attend? I understand apply to schools for negotiation, but you can't negotiate a Dillard anyway. I feel like if you applied to UVA, at some point you must have thought it would be "good enough" to attend on some level of tuition - this being free - and now you are simply questioning that reasoning because you have been on TLS too long and inappropriately compared yourself to others.

Sure, some people with your LSAT score and GPA got into other schools. But a shitload of them did not get a Dillard scholarship. Your cycle need not replicate some paradigm.

I agree and reading OP's other statements, I think OP is not mature enough to attend law school at this point in time. It is not as if OP got a full ride to Temple or a partial scholarship to NYU. The Op received a decent offer from NYU. He is waiting to hear from Columbia and waitlisted at Chicago, but he appears to think he might get a half scholarship out of one if not both of these unknown outcomes.

On LSN the best scholarship form Columbia Law, posted by an accepted applicant with a 172 LSAT and above 3.71, is 90k. For Chicago there is one applicant at 250k with a 3.93 gpa and another at 200k for a 4.0 gpa, both awarded back in Feb a couple of others in January at 185k and 165k. The next highest award from Chicago was 90k. So for OP to hold out hope form two speculative outcomes is just unrealistic.

I stand by my advice, take one or two years off. Save your money and find a more clear direction for your future.

watch out the k-jd army is gonna put a hit on you for that one

Well perhaps some people need to work in New York and then see how life really is, whether in law or investment banking. I grew up in an area where more than 1/3 of parents held jobs on Wall Street. That is where you sort the adults from the kiddies. I am New York City trained.

[anyriotgirl]

Well perhaps some people need to work in New York and then see how life really is, whether in law or investment banking. I grew up in an area where more than 1/3 of parents held jobs on Wall Street. That is where you sort the adults from the kiddies. I am New York City trained.

jfc i was on your side and then you came out with that. this is what i get for taking a chance on someone

[Maui53]

Well perhaps some people need to work in New York and then see how life really is, whether in law or investment banking. I grew up in an area where more than 1/3 of parents held jobs on Wall Street. That is where you sort the adults from the kiddies. I am New York City trained.

jfc i was on your side and then you came out with that. this is what i get for taking a chance on someone

Oh well!

[Mal Reynolds]

There has been a huge upswing in spoiled kids with full parental support agonizing over their decisions. I don't get it. Just go wherever you want. Having rich parents doesn't change the calculus for you but keep acting like it does and just pick CCN.

[hopefulapplicant2]

There has been a huge upswing in spoiled kids with full parental support agonizing over their decisions. I don't get it. Just go wherever you want. Having rich parents doesn't change the calculus for you but keep acting like it does and just pick CCN.

Agreed! So much drama, so llittle thought.

[JustHawkin]

There has been a huge upswing in spoiled kids with full parental support agonizing over their decisions. I don't get it. Just go wherever you want. Having rich parents doesn't change the calculus for you but keep acting like it does and just pick CCN.

Welcome to the instant gratification generation.

[cron1834]

Well perhaps some people need to work in New York and then see how life really is, whether in law or investment banking. I grew up in an area where more than 1/3 of parents held jobs on Wall Street. That is where you sort the adults from the kiddies. I am New York City trained.

jfc i was on your side and then you came out with that. this is what i get for taking a chance on someone

[Mack.Hambleton]

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[Mal Reynolds]

There has been a huge upswing in spoiled kids with full parental support agonizing over their decisions. I don't get it. Just go wherever you want. Having rich parents doesn't change the calculus for you but keep acting like it does and just pick CCN.

no need to be so salty. ive grown up in the rural midwest and my parents were able to save some money for college after my dad got a better job ~ten years ago, im not a damn millionaire or I wouldve just gone to NYU at sticker

Then stop agonizing over this stupid choice and take the Dillard. Show your parents you appreciate the value of their money.

[drawstring]

How bad do you want HYS or CCN James? Would you regret it if you didn't attend one of them?

[KatyMarie]

There has been a huge upswing in spoiled kids with full parental support agonizing over their decisions. I don't get it. Just go wherever you want. Having rich parents doesn't change the calculus for you but keep acting like it does and just pick CCN.

no need to be so salty. ive grown up in the rural midwest and my parents were able to save some money for college after my dad got a better job ~ten years ago, im not a damn millionaire or I wouldve just gone to NYU at sticker

It's just hard to figure out what you're worrying about. Just go where you want to go if you're getting bankrolled/mostly bankrolled with money set aside for your education. If you had to worry about debt, obviously you should go to UVA, but you don't have to worry about that kind of stuff.

[Mal Reynolds]

It's a wonder people like you have survived on your own up to this point. Or maybe you haven't without the parental teet.