UC Hastings vs Pepperdine vs U of A vs Southwestern Forum

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Where should I attend

UC Hastings
10
24%
Pepperdine
9
22%
University of Arizona
19
46%
Southwestern Law School
3
7%
 
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Re: UC Hastings vs Pepperdine vs U of A vs Southwestern

Post by rpupkin » Wed Mar 12, 2014 5:11 pm

jus2626 wrote:
Winston1984 wrote:Why can't you retake?
Many factors but the score i got will be the highest score i will get. I was practicing for months and my score was 5 points higher than my highest practice test.
That's actually a pretty good reason.

Still, you're basically in a situation where your options aren't commensurate with your career goals. If you are willing to work for at least a few years in Arizona (total COA, including living expenses, of $47K at U of A is quite reasonable), then I think that U of A is a defensible investment. But if you're LA law or bust, then perhaps now is the time to decide that law is not the career for you. You could, for example, put the time and money you were willing to spend on a Cali law school into establishing yourself as a real estate agent in Southern California.

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Re: UC Hastings vs Pepperdine vs U of A vs Southwestern

Post by neverlateisbetter » Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:45 pm

Let me point this out first. Don't be one of those people who think they're gonna graduate and make 100K a year and pay off their loan in a year. Unless you live at home for about 3 years where your parents pay for ALL of your living expenses and you never go out, that's not gonna happen.

Don't bother with UofA even though it's the cheapest to attend. Everyone wants to graduate either from a California school or a New York school, why would you go to Arizona? There is however a lot less competition in Arizona than in California, but you won't be making too much money out there either. Your choices should be between Pepperdine and Southwestern, although I'm surprised you don't have an acceptance from Loyola. Southwestern is more of a gateway school. You can use that school and transfer for your second year, but it's not a big deal if you don't because it's still a great school. You should go to Southwestern and transfer to Loyola. If you're in the top 25% you have a very good chance. If you don't think you can do it then go to Pepperdine.

You shouldn't be looking at the schools as whether or not you're going to get a job when you graduate. Most of the people that point that out as the biggest deciding factor think that everyone's waiting for them to graduate so they can hire them. That's not how it works. Let me tell you this, if you think your life is gonna be like "Suits", it's not. You have to go out there starting in your first year to get a job. If they make you answer phone calls, do it. If they make you run errands, do it. Do anything to get you into that office. DON'T STUDY ABROAD. It's seriously a waste of time. It's better to have a job your first summer than a study abroad on your resume because when the second year rolls around do you think employers are more concerned if you have work experience or went to school in a different country? Also, if you want to have a REAL LIFE, don't be too focused on how much a job is going to pay you. The real money is in starting your own firm. Pay attention to the ins and outs of the firm you work at so you know exactly how everything works.

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Re: UC Hastings vs Pepperdine vs U of A vs Southwestern

Post by Mullens » Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:00 pm

neverlateisbetter wrote:Let me point this out first. Don't be one of those people who think they're gonna graduate and make 100K a year and pay off their loan in a year. Unless you live at home for about 3 years where your parents pay for ALL of your living expenses and you never go out, that's not gonna happen.

Don't bother with UofA even though it's the cheapest to attend. Everyone wants to graduate either from a California school or a New York school, why would you go to Arizona? There is however a lot less competition in Arizona than in California, but you won't be making too much money out there either. Your choices should be between Pepperdine and Southwestern, although I'm surprised you don't have an acceptance from Loyola. Southwestern is more of a gateway school. You can use that school and transfer for your second year, but it's not a big deal if you don't because it's still a great school. You should go to Southwestern and transfer to Loyola. If you're in the top 25% you have a very good chance. If you don't think you can do it then go to Pepperdine.

You shouldn't be looking at the schools as whether or not you're going to get a job when you graduate. Most of the people that point that out as the biggest deciding factor think that everyone's waiting for them to graduate so they can hire them. That's not how it works. Let me tell you this, if you think your life is gonna be like "Suits", it's not. You have to go out there starting in your first year to get a job. If they make you answer phone calls, do it. If they make you run errands, do it. Do anything to get you into that office. DON'T STUDY ABROAD. It's seriously a waste of time. It's better to have a job your first summer than a study abroad on your resume because when the second year rolls around do you think employers are more concerned if you have work experience or went to school in a different country? Also, if you want to have a REAL LIFE, don't be too focused on how much a job is going to pay you. The real money is in starting your own firm. Pay attention to the ins and outs of the firm you work at so you know exactly how everything works.
Thanks for signing up to post awful advice in a four month old thread. Do everyone a favor and never post again. Thanks.

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Re: UC Hastings vs Pepperdine vs U of A vs Southwestern

Post by Ti Malice » Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:34 am

[quote="neverlateisbetter"]Let me point this out first. Don't be one of those people who think they're gonna graduate and make 100K a year and pay off their loan in a year. Unless you live at home for about 3 years where your parents pay for ALL of your living expenses and you never go out, that's not gonna happen.

Don't bother with UofA even though it's the cheapest to attend. Everyone wants to graduate either from a California school or a New York school, why would you go to Arizona? There is however a lot less competition in Arizona than in California, but you won't be making too much money out there either. Your choices should be between Pepperdine and Southwestern, although I'm surprised you don't have an acceptance from Loyola. Southwestern is more of a gateway school. You can use that school and transfer for your second year, but it's not a big deal if you don't because it's still a great school. You should go to Southwestern and transfer to Loyola. If you're in the top 25% you have a very good chance. If you don't think you can do it then go to Pepperdine.

You shouldn't be looking at the schools as whether or not you're going to get a job when you graduate. Most of the people that point that out as the biggest deciding factor think that everyone's waiting for them to graduate so they can hire them. That's not how it works. Let me tell you this, if you think your life is gonna be like "Suits", it's not. You have to go out there starting in your first year to get a job. If they make you answer phone calls, do it. If they make you run errands, do it. Do anything to get you into that office.
DON'T STUDY ABROAD. It's seriously a waste of time. It's better to have a job your first summer than a study abroad on your resume because when the second year rolls around do you think employers are more concerned if you have work experience or went to school in a different country? Also, if you want to have a REAL LIFE, don't be too focused on how much a job is going to pay you. The real money is in starting your own firm. Pay attention to the ins and outs of the firm you work at so you know exactly how everything works.[/quote]

Your post constitutes some of the very worst advice ever offered on this forum. I've left in the only not-terrible portion, but even then the wisdom is almost as elementary and self-evident as "don't openly masturbate during your job interviews."

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Re: UC Hastings vs Pepperdine vs U of A vs Southwestern

Post by neverlateisbetter » Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:20 pm

Ti Malice wrote:[quote="neverlateisbetter"]Let me point this out first. Don't be one of those people who think they're gonna graduate and make 100K a year and pay off their loan in a year. Unless you live at home for about 3 years where your parents pay for ALL of your living expenses and you never go out, that's not gonna happen.

Don't bother with UofA even though it's the cheapest to attend. Everyone wants to graduate either from a California school or a New York school, why would you go to Arizona? There is however a lot less competition in Arizona than in California, but you won't be making too much money out there either. Your choices should be between Pepperdine and Southwestern, although I'm surprised you don't have an acceptance from Loyola. Southwestern is more of a gateway school. You can use that school and transfer for your second year, but it's not a big deal if you don't because it's still a great school. You should go to Southwestern and transfer to Loyola. If you're in the top 25% you have a very good chance. If you don't think you can do it then go to Pepperdine.

You shouldn't be looking at the schools as whether or not you're going to get a job when you graduate. Most of the people that point that out as the biggest deciding factor think that everyone's waiting for them to graduate so they can hire them. That's not how it works. Let me tell you this, if you think your life is gonna be like "Suits", it's not. You have to go out there starting in your first year to get a job. If they make you answer phone calls, do it. If they make you run errands, do it. Do anything to get you into that office.
DON'T STUDY ABROAD. It's seriously a waste of time. It's better to have a job your first summer than a study abroad on your resume because when the second year rolls around do you think employers are more concerned if you have work experience or went to school in a different country? Also, if you want to have a REAL LIFE, don't be too focused on how much a job is going to pay you. The real money is in starting your own firm. Pay attention to the ins and outs of the firm you work at so you know exactly how everything works.


Your post constitutes some of the very worst advice ever offered on this forum. I've left in the only not-terrible portion, but even then the wisdom is almost as elementary and self-evident as "don't openly masturbate during your job interviews."[/quote]

How is it bad advice if it's true? OP says money is not a problem so cost is not an issue. And I apologize OP said in another post they got into Loyola. Clearly, since OP wants to practice in LA, Loyola is the better option considering Loyola does have the highest amount of alumni in Los Angeles- judges, magistrates, lawyers/partners, and gov. positions. As such, Loyola alumni always favor their own. Further, names like Robert Shapiro, Mark Geragos, and Laurie Levenson who is a professor at Loyola sets it at a higher standard. I just think that the opportunities are more voluminous- especially since having your law school based in LA means you get more direct access to more opportunities like internships and externships, which also makes the commute easier even for interviews.

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Re: UC Hastings vs Pepperdine vs U of A vs Southwestern

Post by ManoftheHour » Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:25 pm

neverlateisbetter wrote: How is it bad advice
http://www.lstscorereports.com/schools/ ... yers/2013/

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Re: UC Hastings vs Pepperdine vs U of A vs Southwestern

Post by lawschoolyayyy » Fri Jul 25, 2014 4:18 am

OP: you are waitlisted at really good schools! Do yourself a favor and retake, reapply if you haven't decided already!

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Re: UC Hastings vs Pepperdine vs U of A vs Southwestern

Post by rickgrimes69 » Fri Jul 25, 2014 8:36 am

Ti Malice wrote:[quote="neverlateisbetter"]Let me point this out first. Don't be one of those people who think they're gonna graduate and make 100K a year and pay off their loan in a year. Unless you live at home for about 3 years where your parents pay for ALL of your living expenses and you never go out, that's not gonna happen.

Don't bother with UofA even though it's the cheapest to attend. Everyone wants to graduate either from a California school or a New York school, why would you go to Arizona? There is however a lot less competition in Arizona than in California, but you won't be making too much money out there either. Your choices should be between Pepperdine and Southwestern, although I'm surprised you don't have an acceptance from Loyola. Southwestern is more of a gateway school. You can use that school and transfer for your second year, but it's not a big deal if you don't because it's still a great school. You should go to Southwestern and transfer to Loyola. If you're in the top 25% you have a very good chance. If you don't think you can do it then go to Pepperdine.

You shouldn't be looking at the schools as whether or not you're going to get a job when you graduate. Most of the people that point that out as the biggest deciding factor think that everyone's waiting for them to graduate so they can hire them. That's not how it works. Let me tell you this, if you think your life is gonna be like "Suits", it's not. You have to go out there starting in your first year to get a job. If they make you answer phone calls, do it. If they make you run errands, do it. Do anything to get you into that office.
DON'T STUDY ABROAD. It's seriously a waste of time. It's better to have a job your first summer than a study abroad on your resume because when the second year rolls around do you think employers are more concerned if you have work experience or went to school in a different country? Also, if you want to have a REAL LIFE, don't be too focused on how much a job is going to pay you. The real money is in starting your own firm. Pay attention to the ins and outs of the firm you work at so you know exactly how everything works.


Your post constitutes some of the very worst advice ever offered on this forum. I've left in the only not-terrible portion, but even then the wisdom is almost as elementary and self-evident as "don't openly masturbate during your job interviews."[/quote]

what about secretly?

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Re: UC Hastings vs Pepperdine vs U of A vs Southwestern

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