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[bjsesq]

lol he also made like five threads to post the same thing

As someone considering Suffolk, I want to know if this really matters in the grand scheme of things. Suffolk is so huge - there are going to be a wide range of student performances and employment outcomes. I have no illusions that Suffolk is anything but a huge risk. Trying to measure the reaction.

Suffolk just went from awful idea to awful idea. Let's face facts: this changes little about the very, very bad school you are considering.

[Mack.Hambleton]

lol he also made like five threads to post the same thing

As someone considering Suffolk, I want to know if this really matters in the grand scheme of things. Suffolk is so huge - there are going to be a wide range of student performances and employment outcomes. I have no illusions that Suffolk is anything but a huge risk. Trying to measure the reaction.

retake

[Hutz_and_Goodman]

lol he also made like five threads to post the same thing

As someone considering Suffolk, I want to know if this really matters in the grand scheme of things. Suffolk is so huge - there are going to be a wide range of student performances and employment outcomes. I have no illusions that Suffolk is anything but a huge risk. Trying to measure the reaction.

It doesn't make any sense to attend Suffolk. You would be much better off either retaking the LSAT or working, saving money, and starting a business.

[Bildungsroman]

I'm surprised ATL coverage doesn't focus on the regional affect of the rankings given that almost all if the non-t14 schools are regional. (Ex washington & lee falling will almost certainly help william & mary recruit better in VA; wake forest moving up will likely help it recruit against UNC in NC).

Scene: midlaw office in Richmond.

Hiring partner: "Alright, here's our OCI schedule. Make sure to go out there and recruit the best and brightest students willing to work 90 hours a week for $65k a year."

Drone associate: "Sir, I noticed you have us registered for 10 interviews at Washington and Lee and only 15 interviews at William and Mary."

HP: "Yes, that's how we've done it for years. Do you have a problem with that?"

DA: "It's just that, the new USNEWS&WR rankings are out and Washington and Lee has fallen mightily while William and Mary is up."

HP: "THIS. CHANGES. EVERYTHING."

Hiring partner picks up phone and turns on the intercom function.

HP: "Washington and Lee is out, William and Mary is up. DISPATCH THE DROVES."

Clown cars filled with screening attorneys race to Colonial Williamsburg. Drone associate recedes into his office for 12 hours of doc review and bourbon, certain that his diligence will earn him a fat bonus that works out to 5 dollars an hour.

[timbs4339]

lol he also made like five threads to post the same thing

As someone considering Suffolk, I want to know if this really matters in the grand scheme of things. Suffolk is so huge - there are going to be a wide range of student performances and employment outcomes. I have no illusions that Suffolk is anything but a huge risk. Trying to measure the reaction.

No. There's no change. Suffolk was a school that was a good deal 30 years ago if you wanted to practice at a small firm in Greater Boston or work for the local government. It was a waste of money 2 years ago, last year, and now. Don't go. Retake or find something else to do with your life. And change your goddamn avatar- that show is absurd and that character a joke.

[timbs4339]

ITT people get excited about essentially random variations.

[bjsesq]

ITT people get excited about essentially random variations.

Those random variations. Everything. Changes. This.

[anan]

I'm surprised ATL coverage doesn't focus on the regional affect of the rankings given that almost all if the non-t14 schools are regional. (Ex washington & lee falling will almost certainly help william & mary recruit better in VA; wake forest moving up will likely help it recruit against UNC in NC).

Scene: midlaw office in Richmond.

Hiring partner: "Alright, here's our OCI schedule. Make sure to go out there and recruit the best and brightest students willing to work 90 hours a week for $65k a year."

Drone associate: "Sir, I noticed you have us registered for 10 interviews at Washington and Lee and only 15 interviews at William and Mary."

HP: "Yes, that's how we've done it for years. Do you have a problem with that?"

DA: "It's just that, the new USNEWS&WR rankings are out and Washington and Lee has fallen mightily while William and Mary is up."

HP: "THIS. CHANGES. EVERYTHING."

Hiring partner picks up phone and turns on the intercom function.

HP: "Washington and Lee is out, William and Mary is up. DISPATCH THE DROVES."

Clown cars filled with screening attorneys race to Colonial Williamsburg. Drone associate recedes into his office for 12 hours of doc review and bourbon, certain that his diligence will earn him a fat bonus that works out to 5 dollars an hour.

I saw nothing inaccurate about this. Spot on analysis.

[goldenboy514]

I'm surprised ATL coverage doesn't focus on the regional affect of the rankings given that almost all if the non-t14 schools are regional. (Ex washington & lee falling will almost certainly help william & mary recruit better in VA; wake forest moving up will likely help it recruit against UNC in NC).

Scene: midlaw office in Richmond.

Hiring partner: "Alright, here's our OCI schedule. Make sure to go out there and recruit the best and brightest students willing to work 90 hours a week for $65k a year."

Drone associate: "Sir, I noticed you have us registered for 10 interviews at Washington and Lee and only 15 interviews at William and Mary."

HP: "Yes, that's how we've done it for years. Do you have a problem with that?"

DA: "It's just that, the new USNEWS&WR rankings are out and Washington and Lee has fallen mightily while William and Mary is up."

HP: "THIS. CHANGES. EVERYTHING."

Hiring partner picks up phone and turns on the intercom function.

HP: "Washington and Lee is out, William and Mary is up. DISPATCH THE DROVES."

Clown cars filled with screening attorneys race to Colonial Williamsburg. Drone associate recedes into his office for 12 hours of doc review and bourbon, certain that his diligence will earn him a fat bonus that works out to 5 dollars an hour.

Very solid post. I Lol'd IRL

[itachiuchiha]

When are new lst reports out?

[cotiger]

When are new lst reports out?

ABA releases its data April 1

[Lord Randolph McDuff]

Cue DROVES of people taking the time to post about how rankings don't matter.

[bjsesq]

Cue DROVES of people taking the time to post about how rankings don't matter.

This post CHANGES EVERYTHING.

[TTRansfer]

Ahh--that was actually Penn State that endured Sandusky's taint

endured Sandusky's taint

endured Sandusky's taint

[bjsesq]

Penn State that endured Sandusky's taint

Actually, children did.

Fucking scooped, motherfucker.

[Tiago Splitter]

This may be obvious, but how big of a role should these rankings play in making a final decision? All other factors aside

Rankings themselves shouldn't play that much of a role, in my opinion. HOWEVER, some of the factors such as employment statistics that play a major role in the rankings SHOULD play a role. The major drop in ranking for W&L (-17) should raise a red flag as it seems to be largely due to very very poor employment at graduation and 9 months post-graduation.

Like most law schools W&L has always had shit employment stats. Nothing changed from 2011 to 2012.

[androstan]

DROVES OF TAINTS CHANGED EVERY RANKING

[Mauve.Dino]

The fact that Sandusky's taint is creating more of a reaction than the USNWR rankings says a lot about the rankings.

(and Sandusy's taint, apparently )

[bjsesq]

The fact that Sandusky's taint is creating more of a reaction than the USNWR rankings says a lot about the rankings.

(and Sandusy's taint, apparently )

What's the difference between Sandusky and acne? Acne doesn't come on young male athletes faces until their teens. I MADE A PEDOPHILE JOKE

[Hutz_and_Goodman]

I'm surprised ATL coverage doesn't focus on the regional affect of the rankings given that almost all if the non-t14 schools are regional. (Ex washington & lee falling will almost certainly help william & mary recruit better in VA; wake forest moving up will likely help it recruit against UNC in NC).

Scene: midlaw office in Richmond.

Hiring partner: "Alright, here's our OCI schedule. Make sure to go out there and recruit the best and brightest students willing to work 90 hours a week for $65k a year."

Drone associate: "Sir, I noticed you have us registered for 10 interviews at Washington and Lee and only 15 interviews at William and Mary."

HP: "Yes, that's how we've done it for years. Do you have a problem with that?"

DA: "It's just that, the new USNEWS&WR rankings are out and Washington and Lee has fallen mightily while William and Mary is up."

HP: "THIS. CHANGES. EVERYTHING."

Hiring partner picks up phone and turns on the intercom function.

HP: "Washington and Lee is out, William and Mary is up. DISPATCH THE DROVES."

Clown cars filled with screening attorneys race to Colonial Williamsburg. Drone associate recedes into his office for 12 hours of doc review and bourbon, certain that his diligence will earn him a fat bonus that works out to 5 dollars an hour.

I loled too, but I meant the ability of schools to recruit students (I doubt that firms care much, but students are definitely of the mindset--oh, this is the best law school in the state according to USNWR!).

[logicspeaks]

The role employment data plays into the rankings is probably responsible for the huge drops for almost all schools in Southern California. So considering how saturated that market is, hopefully the rankings dissuade a decent amount of people from enrolling in those terrible schools.

[BVest]

I'm curious about the employment stats. Yale, for instance, has their employment listed as 89%, whereas UPenn has theirs at 95%, yet Yale is first and UPenn is 7th. Wouldn't potential employment be the main factor in deciding what school to attend?

I don't pretend to understand.

Reputation is factored into the score, and Penn took a big hit from the Sandusky scandal.

That sounds like the old joke of "The Aggies just got caught cheating again, so the NCAA is expected to punish SMU severely."

[Mr. Pancakes]

Stetson is now in the top 100

[TTRansfer]

Penn State that endured Sandusky's taint

Actually, children did.

Fucking scooped, motherfucker.

Oh, I know. I saw that before I even posted. I just had to post that shit again because I am still laughing out loud over it.

I feel like "Enduring Taint" is a great alt account name, too.

[TTRansfer]

Also, I feel like the fact that the dude has a Barney avatar made it even funnier.