Holy shit, that isn't a joke. That is atrocious.romothesavior wrote:-At Whittier, only 21 of 123 graduates (17%) got full-time, bar passage-required jobs.
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pshh, I sure do !Wily wrote:Man, this forum is good at chasing away the new posters who ask about T2/T3/T4 schools. I wonder how many of them actually stay long enough to read all the way down these threads.
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Re: Southwestern sticker or Whittier with 27k?
Take Whittier with the $$$.
Others have been telling you to skip both, but no one has asked if that's even an option. So I will.
Can you relocate out of state?
If not, how far are you willing to commute?
To everyone else, for many living here in SoCal, moving is not an option. Some have families with spouses that work and children to take care of. T1 schools for many are out of reach, both geographically and financially even with $$$. Lay off those who cannot attend a better school.
According the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the unemployment rate for lawyers is 1.6% and the median income for new grads is $75k nationally. Yes, I will grant that the numbers on their face look bad, but so do the numbers for new grad RN's and MD's. However, over the long run, you will make more money attending law school, than any other profession and you do not need a big law firm to do it.
Case in point, if you spend 3 years in the DA's office, you will have more trial experience than a fellow graduate who goes to work for a civil litigation firm and while they will make more money than you at the start, but at the end of the 3 years, you can take your extensive trial experience and go to work for that very same civ lit firm and get paid more than your fellow grad and be on track to make partner first.
In SoCal, the majority of judges at both the Superior and Appellate levels have come from T4 schools. Do not let these snobs scare you away from what you want to do. If you want to practice law, then go for it. If you are unable to move, then take Whittier.
Others have been telling you to skip both, but no one has asked if that's even an option. So I will.
Can you relocate out of state?
If not, how far are you willing to commute?
To everyone else, for many living here in SoCal, moving is not an option. Some have families with spouses that work and children to take care of. T1 schools for many are out of reach, both geographically and financially even with $$$. Lay off those who cannot attend a better school.
According the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the unemployment rate for lawyers is 1.6% and the median income for new grads is $75k nationally. Yes, I will grant that the numbers on their face look bad, but so do the numbers for new grad RN's and MD's. However, over the long run, you will make more money attending law school, than any other profession and you do not need a big law firm to do it.
Case in point, if you spend 3 years in the DA's office, you will have more trial experience than a fellow graduate who goes to work for a civil litigation firm and while they will make more money than you at the start, but at the end of the 3 years, you can take your extensive trial experience and go to work for that very same civ lit firm and get paid more than your fellow grad and be on track to make partner first.
In SoCal, the majority of judges at both the Superior and Appellate levels have come from T4 schools. Do not let these snobs scare you away from what you want to do. If you want to practice law, then go for it. If you are unable to move, then take Whittier.
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This is just a fucking moronic post across the board.jkbec1 wrote:Take Whittier with the $$$.
Others have been telling you to skip both, but no one has asked if that's even an option. So I will.
Can you relocate out of state?
If not, how far are you willing to commute?
To everyone else, for many living here in SoCal, moving is not an option. Some have families with spouses that work and children to take care of. T1 schools for many are out of reach, both geographically and financially even with $$$. Lay off those who cannot attend a better school.
According the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the unemployment rate for lawyers is 1.6% and the median income for new grads is $75k nationally. Yes, I will grant that the numbers on their face look bad, but so do the numbers for new grad RN's and MD's. However, over the long run, you will make more money attending law school, than any other profession and you do not need a big law firm to do it.
Case in point, if you spend 3 years in the DA's office, you will have more trial experience than a fellow graduate who goes to work for a civil litigation firm and while they will make more money than you at the start, but at the end of the 3 years, you can take your extensive trial experience and go to work for that very same civ lit firm and get paid more than your fellow grad and be on track to make partner first.
In SoCal, the majority of judges at both the Superior and Appellate levels have come from T4 schools. Do not let these snobs scare you away from what you want to do. If you want to practice law, then go for it. If you are unable to move, then take Whittier.
It's always an option, and it has nothing to do with relocation. How about, oh I dunno... not going to law school at all?Others have been telling you to skip both, but no one has asked if that's even an option.
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Re: Southwestern sticker or Whittier with 27k?
jkbec1 wrote:Take Whittier with the $$$.
Others have been telling you to skip both, but no one has asked if that's even an option. So I will.
romothesavior wrote:At Whittier, only 21 of 123 graduates (17%) got full-time, bar passage-required jobs.
jkbec1 wrote:If not, how far are you willing to commute?
To everyone else, for many living here in SoCal, moving is not an option. Some have families with spouses that work and children to take care of. T1 schools for many are out of reach, both geographically and financially even with $$$. Lay off those who cannot attend a better school.
romothesavior wrote:At Whittier, only 21 of 123 graduates (17%) got full-time, bar passage-required jobs.
jkbec1 wrote: According the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the unemployment rate for lawyers is 1.6% and the median income for new grads is $75k nationally. Yes, I will grant that the numbers on their face look bad, but so do the numbers for new grad RN's and MD's. However, over the long run, you will make more money attending law school, than any other profession and you do not need a big law firm to do it.
romothesavior wrote:At Whittier, only 21 of 123 graduates (17%) got full-time, bar passage-required jobs.
jkbec1 wrote:Case in point, if you spend 3 years in the DA's office, you will have more trial experience than a fellow graduate who goes to work for a civil litigation firm and while they will make more money than you at the start, but at the end of the 3 years, you can take your extensive trial experience and go to work for that very same civ lit firm and get paid more than your fellow grad and be on track to make partner first.
romothesavior wrote:At Whittier, only 21 of 123 graduates (17%) got full-time, bar passage-required jobs.
romothesavior wrote:In SoCal, the majority of judges at both the Superior and Appellate levels have come from T4 schools. Do not let these snobs scare you away from what you want to do. If you want to practice law, then go for it. If you are unable to move, then take Whittier.
romothesavior wrote:At Whittier, only 21 of 123 graduates (17%) got full-time, bar passage-required jobs.
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Re: Southwestern sticker or Whittier with 27k?
Op will hustle. Don't worry.tfleming09 wrote:I'm sure you are, slugger.mikebag23 wrote:I am confident I can place in the top 10% at either school
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Who made you the fucking king of the world? So, if that's the extent of your arguing skills, then I will look forward to seeing you at Burger King the next time I take my kids. Make sure not to get burned from the deep fryer.romothesavior wrote:This is just a fucking moronic post across the board.jkbec1 wrote:Take Whittier with the $$$.
Others have been telling you to skip both, but no one has asked if that's even an option. So I will.
Can you relocate out of state?
If not, how far are you willing to commute?
To everyone else, for many living here in SoCal, moving is not an option. Some have families with spouses that work and children to take care of. T1 schools for many are out of reach, both geographically and financially even with $$$. Lay off those who cannot attend a better school.
According the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the unemployment rate for lawyers is 1.6% and the median income for new grads is $75k nationally. Yes, I will grant that the numbers on their face look bad, but so do the numbers for new grad RN's and MD's. However, over the long run, you will make more money attending law school, than any other profession and you do not need a big law firm to do it.
Case in point, if you spend 3 years in the DA's office, you will have more trial experience than a fellow graduate who goes to work for a civil litigation firm and while they will make more money than you at the start, but at the end of the 3 years, you can take your extensive trial experience and go to work for that very same civ lit firm and get paid more than your fellow grad and be on track to make partner first.
In SoCal, the majority of judges at both the Superior and Appellate levels have come from T4 schools. Do not let these snobs scare you away from what you want to do. If you want to practice law, then go for it. If you are unable to move, then take Whittier.
It's always an option, and it has nothing to do with relocation. How about, oh I dunno... not going to law school at all?Others have been telling you to skip both, but no one has asked if that's even an option.
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lol son you got problems if you thing legal practice is about "arguing."jkbec1 wrote: Who made you the fucking king of the world? So, if that's the extent of your arguing skills, then I will look forward to seeing you at Burger King the next time I take my kids. Make sure not to get burned from the deep fryer.
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jkbec1 wrote:Take Whittier with the $$$.
Others have been telling you to skip both, but no one has asked if that's even an option. So I will.
Can you relocate out of state?
If not, how far are you willing to commute?
To everyone else, for many living here in SoCal, moving is not an option. Some have families with spouses that work and children to take care of. T1 schools for many are out of reach, both geographically and financially even with $$$. Lay off those who cannot attend a better school.
According the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the unemployment rate for lawyers is 1.6% and the median income for new grads is $75k nationally. Yes, I will grant that the numbers on their face look bad, but so do the numbers for new grad RN's and MD's. However, over the long run, you will make more money attending law school, than any other profession and you do not need a big law firm to do it.
Case in point, if you spend 3 years in the DA's office, you will have more trial experience than a fellow graduate who goes to work for a civil litigation firm and while they will make more money than you at the start, but at the end of the 3 years, you can take your extensive trial experience and go to work for that very same civ lit firm and get paid more than your fellow grad and be on track to make partner first.
In SoCal, the majority of judges at both the Superior and Appellate levels have come from T4 schools. Do not let these snobs scare you away from what you want to do. If you want to practice law, then go for it. If you are unable to move, then take Whittier.

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You wrote nothing worth responding to. The few substantive points you attempted to make were flat out inaccurate, and the rest was incomprehensible boomerbabble. It was one of the most asinine things I have ever read.
I believe timbs said it best:
I believe timbs said it best:
Suggesting that someone go to a school with statistics like these is just rank idiocy.romothesavior wrote:At Whittier, only 21 of 123 graduates (17%) got full-time, bar passage-required jobs.
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Relevant: does OPs scholarship have the dreaded top 5% stip?
http://top-law-schools.com/forums/viewt ... n#p2765878
http://top-law-schools.com/forums/viewt ... n#p2765878
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Literally you have a better shot at roulette, craps, or blackjack and a full time legal jerb from Whittier. The sublimest of idiocy.romothesavior wrote:You wrote nothing worth responding to. The few substantive points you attempted to make were flat out inaccurate, and the rest was incomprehensible boomerbabble. It was one of the most asinine things I have ever read.
I believe timbs said it best:
Suggesting that someone go to a school with statistics like these is just rank idiocy.romothesavior wrote:At Whittier, only 21 of 123 graduates (17%) got full-time, bar passage-required jobs.
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jkbec1 wrote:Take Whittier with the $$$.
Others have been telling you to skip both, but no one has asked if that's even an option. So I will.
Can you relocate out of state?
If not, how far are you willing to commute?
To everyone else, for many living here in SoCal, moving is not an option. Some have families with spouses that work and children to take care of. T1 schools for many are out of reach, both geographically and financially even with $$$. Lay off those who cannot attend a better school.
According the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the unemployment rate for lawyers is 1.6% and the median income for new grads is $75k nationally. Yes, I will grant that the numbers on their face look bad, but so do the numbers for new grad RN's and MD's. However, over the long run, you will make more money attending law school, than any other profession and you do not need a big law firm to do it.
Case in point, if you spend 3 years in the DA's office, you will have more trial experience than a fellow graduate who goes to work for a civil litigation firm and while they will make more money than you at the start, but at the end of the 3 years, you can take your extensive trial experience and go to work for that very same civ lit firm and get paid more than your fellow grad and be on track to make partner first.
In SoCal, the majority of judges at both the Superior and Appellate levels have come from T4 schools. Do not let these snobs scare you away from what you want to do. If you want to practice law, then go for it. If you are unable to move, then take Whittier.

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LOLOL is that a fucking joketop30man wrote:Relevant: does OPs scholarship have the dreaded top 5% stip?
http://top-law-schools.com/forums/viewt ... n#p2765878
Then again if I went to Whittier and finished outside of top 5% I'd probably drop out anyway
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+1. The kind of person that goes to Whittier might need a swift kick in the balls to indicate that you shouldn't be there.tfleming09 wrote:LOLOL is that a fucking joketop30man wrote:Relevant: does OPs scholarship have the dreaded top 5% stip?
http://top-law-schools.com/forums/viewt ... n#p2765878
Then again if I went to Whittier and finished outside of top 5% I'd probably drop out anyway
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well said, don't listen to the haters, take whittier and the money, plus it's in the orange county and located in a very nice area, attend and study hard, don't let others tell you that you will fail before you even startjkbec1 wrote:Take Whittier with the $$$.
Others have been telling you to skip both, but no one has asked if that's even an option. So I will.
Can you relocate out of state?
If not, how far are you willing to commute?
To everyone else, for many living here in SoCal, moving is not an option. Some have families with spouses that work and children to take care of. T1 schools for many are out of reach, both geographically and financially even with $$$. Lay off those who cannot attend a better school.
According the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the unemployment rate for lawyers is 1.6% and the median income for new grads is $75k nationally. Yes, I will grant that the numbers on their face look bad, but so do the numbers for new grad RN's and MD's. However, over the long run, you will make more money attending law school, than any other profession and you do not need a big law firm to do it.
Case in point, if you spend 3 years in the DA's office, you will have more trial experience than a fellow graduate who goes to work for a civil litigation firm and while they will make more money than you at the start, but at the end of the 3 years, you can take your extensive trial experience and go to work for that very same civ lit firm and get paid more than your fellow grad and be on track to make partner first.
In SoCal, the majority of judges at both the Superior and Appellate levels have come from T4 schools. Do not let these snobs scare you away from what you want to do. If you want to practice law, then go for it. If you are unable to move, then take Whittier.
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Jah'rakal wrote: well said, don't listen to the haters, take whittier and the money, plus it's in the orange county and located in a very nice area, attend and study hard, don't let others tell you that you will fail before you even start
romothesavior wrote:At Whittier, only 21 of 123 graduates (17%) got full-time, bar passage-required jobs.
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It's "hating" to point out that betting $100,000 on a 17% chance at a legal job is a bad idea? You are an idiot. GTFO with your awful advice and opinions on how nice the area is.Jah'rakal wrote:well said, don't listen to the haters, take whittier and the money, plus it's in the orange county and located in a very nice area, attend and study hard, don't let others tell you that you will fail before you even start
Where do these people keep coming from?
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My guess is the AARP thread.North wrote:It's "hating" to point out that betting $100,000 on a 17% chance at a legal job is a bad idea? You are an idiot. GTFO with your awful advice and opinions on how nice the area is.Jah'rakal wrote:well said, don't listen to the haters, take whittier and the money, plus it's in the orange county and located in a very nice area, attend and study hard, don't let others tell you that you will fail before you even start
Where do these people keep coming from?
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Now that I think about it, I remember this guy trolling in the same manner from over a year ago. The question is whether he is just a troll stirring the pot or actually believes the shit he posts. If I could hope, I'd hope for troll.
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Jah'rakal: One of the best trolls TLS has ever seen.
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Which is like saying he's one of the best quarterbacks in Bears history.chimp wrote:Jah'rakal: One of the best trolls TLS has ever seen.
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Pretty much. He's almost as good as BearsGrl.romothesavior wrote:Which is like saying he's one of the best quarterbacks in Bears history.chimp wrote:Jah'rakal: One of the best trolls TLS has ever seen.
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--ImageRemoved-- (LinkRemoved)jkbec1 wrote:Take Whittier with the $$$.
Others have been telling you to skip both, but no one has asked if that's even an option. So I will.
Can you relocate out of state?
If not, how far are you willing to commute?
To everyone else, for many living here in SoCal, moving is not an option. Some have families with spouses that work and children to take care of. T1 schools for many are out of reach, both geographically and financially even with $$$. Lay off those who cannot attend a better school.
According the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the unemployment rate for lawyers is 1.6% and the median income for new grads is $75k nationally. Yes, I will grant that the numbers on their face look bad, but so do the numbers for new grad RN's and MD's. However, over the long run, you will make more money attending law school, than any other profession and you do not need a big law firm to do it.
Case in point, if you spend 3 years in the DA's office, you will have more trial experience than a fellow graduate who goes to work for a civil litigation firm and while they will make more money than you at the start, but at the end of the 3 years, you can take your extensive trial experience and go to work for that very same civ lit firm and get paid more than your fellow grad and be on track to make partner first.
In SoCal, the majority of judges at both the Superior and Appellate levels have come from T4 schools. Do not let these snobs scare you away from what you want to do. If you want to practice law, then go for it. If you are unable to move, then take Whittier.
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+1TheWeeIceMon wrote:jkbec1 wrote:Take Whittier with the $$$.
Others have been telling you to skip both, but no one has asked if that's even an option. So I will.
Can you relocate out of state?
If not, how far are you willing to commute?
To everyone else, for many living here in SoCal, moving is not an option. Some have families with spouses that work and children to take care of. T1 schools for many are out of reach, both geographically and financially even with $$$. Lay off those who cannot attend a better school.
According the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the unemployment rate for lawyers is 1.6% and the median income for new grads is $75k nationally. Yes, I will grant that the numbers on their face look bad, but so do the numbers for new grad RN's and MD's. However, over the long run, you will make more money attending law school, than any other profession and you do not need a big law firm to do it.
Case in point, if you spend 3 years in the DA's office, you will have more trial experience than a fellow graduate who goes to work for a civil litigation firm and while they will make more money than you at the start, but at the end of the 3 years, you can take your extensive trial experience and go to work for that very same civ lit firm and get paid more than your fellow grad and be on track to make partner first.
In SoCal, the majority of judges at both the Superior and Appellate levels have come from T4 schools. Do not let these snobs scare you away from what you want to do. If you want to practice law, then go for it. If you are unable to move, then take Whittier.Have any thing to back up the bolded?
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