Chicago ($) v. NYU Forum

TaipeiMort · Post by **TaipeiMort** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:09 pm

They are both great. Only peers in NYC. Everywhere else Chicago gives you an undeniable placement advantage.

law2015 · Post by **law2015** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:18 pm

TaipeiMort wrote:They are both great. Only peers in NYC. Everywhere else Chicago gives you an undeniable placement advantage.

Lol, NYU trumps Chicago in NYC.

TaipeiMort · Post by **TaipeiMort** » Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:16 am

law2015 wrote:
TaipeiMort wrote:They are both great. Only peers in NYC. Everywhere else Chicago gives you an undeniable placement advantage.
Lol, NYU trumps Chicago in NYC.

In numbers, and percentages. But, it us much more likely that a Chicago person gunning NYC gets it than an NYU person.

ahnhub · Post by **ahnhub** » Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:49 am

TaipeiMort wrote:They are both great. Only peers in NYC. Everywhere else Chicago gives you an undeniable placement advantage.

TaipeiMort, just wondering how you'd respond to UChicago's latest employment stats. They weren't awful or anything considering it was c/o 2011, but you'd have a hard time backing up the "Chicago has better job prospects than everyone except Yale/Stanford" meme:

- 12% of the class was in a law school funded job (basically tied with Cornell/GULC for 2nd-worst in T-14; UVA took the cake with like 18%)

- 54% in a law firm of 100+ or a federal clerkship (roughly even with Berkeley/Duke, behind NU, well behind Penn/Columbia)

It's just one year, but for that year Chicago looked like any other T-14.

dixiecupdrinking · Post by **dixiecupdrinking** » Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:59 am

TaipeiMort wrote:
law2015 wrote:
TaipeiMort wrote:They are both great. Only peers in NYC. Everywhere else Chicago gives you an undeniable placement advantage.
Lol, NYU trumps Chicago in NYC.
In numbers, and percentages. But, it us much more likely that a Chicago person gunning NYC gets it than an NYU person.

Garbage.

banjo · Post by **banjo** » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:09 am

For the sake of comparison, I did an "unemployment" breakdown for c/o 2010 using rayiner's method in http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 1&t=181723. We can't do this for 2011 because I don't think all of the data is available yet.

NYU:

Graduates: 497
Employment is unknown, unemployed, grad school: 0+11+6=17
Employment is law-school funded: 38*
Academic = 3
Law firms < 50 attorneys: 21
Business/industry: 14 / 2 = 7
State & local clerkships = 12
---
Probably unemployed: 58 (12%)
Probably less than desirable jobs: 40 (8%)
Upper bound: 98 / 497 = 20%

Chicago:

Graduates: 195
Employment is unknown, unemployed, grad school: =0+4+0=4
Employment is law-school funded: 2
Academic = 3
Law firms < 50 attorneys: 14
Business/industry: 8/2 = 4
State & local clerkships = 3
---
Probably unemployed: 9
Probably less than desirable jobs: 21
Upper bound: 30 / 195 = 15%

If you see any mistakes, please point them out. I did Columbia and Penn a while ago for my own curiosity. I think they were ~12% and ~22% respectively.

*ETA: I possibly double-counted law school funded for NYU. Anyone have any idea of how to separate these out?

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