Indianapolis (33k) vs Kentucky (13k) Law 2015 Forum

[JamesChapman23]

merely that if you are top 10%, you have a better than 50% shot at getting a good job.

Brilliant. That is worth hundred of thousands of dollars worth of debt for those chances. LMAO, A 5-6 percent shot at a non-NLJ NALP job! Yea!

Where exactly does the rest of the 90 percent of the class go, jrthor? Do those in the top 50% have a decent chance at positions at starbucks? Top 80 percent have a better than 50 percent shot at getting a good panhandling corner?

I didn't know 33K of tuition debt + living expenses in Indy amounted to, "hundred of thousands of dollars" [sic] in debt. Indy must have gotten considerably more expensive since I grew up there a few years ago.

You keep extrapolating from the limited point I was trying to make. I never said it was a good school to go to, or that there were good job prospects. Merely that it gave OP a "shot" at a well-paying law job and that, in my opinion, the likelihood of this was better at U Indy than at Kentucky

Yea, gives the OP a shot like playing the lottery gives someone a shot.

Also, I realize you are a law student, but with cost of attendance that is six figures (its 43k a year tuition, actually). You might not have 6th grade math down well, but you got the passive-aggressive [sic] label working for you.

[JamesChapman23]

Guys, to clarify. The scholarship I have at Indianapolis is 33,000, I would be paying only 11,000 a year. The title is the scholarship amount, not the amount that I will be paying.... I should've listed it the other way around.

Well when you are unemployment- it doesn't matter whether you are 50k in debt or 150k in debt. You default either way and with the same consequences.

If you are going to be kind of a douche, can you be one with correct grammar please?

Not disagreeing with your point, simply your asshole way of making it.

Are you just going to ignore the substantive points and continue to make BS tone troll comments?

[tolson1]

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[jrthor10]

Also, I realize you are a law student, but with cost of attendance that is six figures (its 43k a year tuition, actually). You might not have 6th grade math down well, but you got the passive-aggressive [sic] label working for you.

Still not seeing how 11k of tuition debt a year + COL expenses in Indy add up to six figures...

[JamesChapman23]

Also, I realize you are a law student, but with cost of attendance that is six figures (its 43k a year tuition, actually). You might not have 6th grade math down well, but you got the passive-aggressive [sic] label working for you.

Still not seeing how 11k of tuition debt a year + COL expenses in Indy add up to six figures...

You cited 33k.....the OP just corrected you.

[Michaela]

I didn't have that luxury either. Sure you can get a job that pays $14/hr if you're lucky, but those of us with significant undergrad student loan debt could never start affording those payments if we just took a year off to study for the LSAT. I know, I know- it's dumb to accrue more debt because you can't pay the debt you already have, but the job market is BAD for those of us with useless undergrad degrees.

Though I guess if you have tons of undergrad debt and can only get a 20-30k job you're basically in debt peonage already. Maybe going to law school and then living like a peon for 25 years while doing IBR is an option.

IBR is my 10 yr golden parachute. If I'm only gonna make 30-50K anyway (I'm only top 20%), may as well do it for the government or a non-profit.

[bk1]

Guys, to clarify. The scholarship I have at Indianapolis is 33,000, I would be paying only 11,000 a year. The title is the scholarship amount, not the amount that I will be paying.... I should've listed it the other way around.

That's not necessarily why people aren't recommending it. They aren't recommending these schools since you want a shot at a big firm. If all you wanted was to work at a small firm in Indy or KY then it wouldn't be as big a deal. However these are still pretty awful schools. See below.

I have read through Indianapolis' employment statistics and am comfortable incurring that debt.

I'm skeptical of this. Have you really seen their employment stats? Their website doesn't report very much and they don't report a lot of things to USNWR (check LST). They don't say what percentage of students end up each size firm, they don't say what percentage of their class works full time versus part time, they don't say what percentage of their class are in jobs that require a JD, etc. Heck they don't even report something as basic as how many students end up in state and they do shady things like interchangeably reporting the mean or the median for salary when it suits them. Their employment stats don't tell you anything other than that 8-9% of their class was unemployed. On top of that, including the 10k/year that you're going to pay in tuition and the 20k/year that you'll be paying in living expenses, you'll be in almost 100k debt. Almost 6 figures worth of debt without a clue as to what kind of employment you can expect... how can you be comfortable with that?

[bk1]

IBR is my 10 yr golden parachute. If I'm only gonna make 30-50K anyway (I'm only top 20%), may as well do it for the government or a non-profit.

I guess if you can find one of those jobs. Though if you're open to ones that don't require a JD then maybe it's not so unreasonable.

[Michaela]

IBR is my 10 yr golden parachute. If I'm only gonna make 30-50K anyway (I'm only top 20%), may as well do it for the government or a non-profit.

I guess if you can find one of those jobs. Though if you're open to ones that don't require a JD then maybe it's not so unreasonable.

I'm open to anything that'll pay me. Ideally a lawyer job but hey the economy blows. Plus, law school minus the academic part is pretty fun anyway.

[breadbucket]

IBR is my 10 yr golden parachute. If I'm only gonna make 30-50K anyway (I'm only top 20%), may as well do it for the government or a non-profit.

I guess if you can find one of those jobs. Though if you're open to ones that don't require a JD then maybe it's not so unreasonable.

I'm open to anything that'll pay me. Ideally a lawyer job but hey the economy blows. Plus, law school minus the academic part is pretty fun anyway.

Clearly troll thread, but in your poll, the "neither" option is strangely missing

[romothesavior]

Also, I realize you are a law student, but with cost of attendance that is six figures (its 43k a year tuition, actually). You might not have 6th grade math down well, but you got the passive-aggressive [sic] label working for you.

Still not seeing how 11k of tuition debt a year + COL expenses in Indy add up to six figures...

Probably 35k in tuition (assuming tuition increases) plus maybe 60k in living expenses. Don't forget interest. We're close to 6 figures. 90k at least. That's a lot of dough for this school and this situation.

[tolson1]

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[tolson1]

IBR is my 10 yr golden parachute. If I'm only gonna make 30-50K anyway (I'm only top 20%), may as well do it for the government or a non-profit.

I guess if you can find one of those jobs. Though if you're open to ones that don't require a JD then maybe it's not so unreasonable.

I'm open to anything that'll pay me. Ideally a lawyer job but hey the economy blows. Plus, law school minus the academic part is pretty fun anyway.

Clearly troll thread, but in your poll, the "neither" option is strangely missing

This is not a troll thread...

[breadbucket]

I guess if you can find one of those jobs. Though if you're open to ones that don't require a JD then maybe it's not so unreasonable.

I'm open to anything that'll pay me. Ideally a lawyer job but hey the economy blows. Plus, law school minus the academic part is pretty fun anyway.

Clearly troll thread, but in your poll, the "neither" option is strangely missing

This is not a troll thread...

He used law school and fun in the same sentence, I rest my case

[tolson1]

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[bk1]

I think i've decided to take the LSAT again and June and play it by ear.. If I do significantly better, I will apply again in next years cycle... If not, I will fall back onto one of these schools. Does this seem to be a good plan?

I am currently at 158, I'm thinking that if I score anywhere from 167+ that I will take a year off and re-apply. Good idea?

That is what I did. Good luck.

[Samara]

I think i've decided to take the LSAT again and June and play it by ear.. If I do significantly better, I will apply again in next years cycle... If not, I will fall back onto one of these schools. Does this seem to be a good plan?

I am currently at 158, I'm thinking that if I score anywhere from 167+ that I will take a year off and re-apply. Good idea?

Excellent choice. Though I think you should take at least a year off regardless of your score. Getting work experience will help you get a biglaw job and give you perspective on what you want to do with your career. Good luck!