The Infamous UCLA v. USC Forum

[dpk711]

Cause UCLA girls are hideous and UCLA has no party life.

The USC Law vs. UCLA law debate was arguable. But USC girls vs. UCLA girls really isn't.

You've never even been to UCLA have you?

Been to Westwood and UCLA many times. Not even close.

[Curry]

Cause UCLA girls are hideous and UCLA has no party life.

The USC Law vs. UCLA law debate was arguable. But USC girls vs. UCLA girls really isn't.

You've never even been to UCLA have you?

Been to Westwood and UCLA many times. Not even close.

Lol. I'm not saying UCLA girls are hotter. They aren't. But its not as if UCLA has a bunch of 1s running around while USC is filled with 10s. Don't be stupid.

[dpk711]

You. I like you.

Cause UCLA girls are hideous and UCLA has no party life.

The USC Law vs. UCLA law debate was arguable. But USC girls vs. UCLA girls really isn't.

180 on that bro

[99.9luft]

Cause UCLA girls are hideous and UCLA has no party life.

The USC Law vs. UCLA law debate was arguable. But USC girls vs. UCLA girls really isn't.

You've never even been to UCLA have you?

Been to Westwood and UCLA many times. Not even close.

UCLA UG is less cute than USC UG
UCLA Law =cuteness= USC Law

The end.

[dpk711]

Lol. I'm not saying UCLA girls are hotter. They aren't. But its not as if UCLA has a bunch of 1s running around while USC is filled with 10s. Don't be stupid.

I never said UCLA has a bunch of 1s running around. I'm saying if the UCLA average is a 6, the USC average is close to a 9.

[Curry]

Lol. I'm not saying UCLA girls are hotter. They aren't. But its not as if UCLA has a bunch of 1s running around while USC is filled with 10s. Don't be stupid.

I never said UCLA has a bunch of 1s running around. I'm saying if the UCLA average is a 6, the USC average is close to a 9.

lol your bias is getting in the way of your ability to judge women. Its okay.

[dpk711]

Lol. I'm not saying UCLA girls are hotter. They aren't. But its not as if UCLA has a bunch of 1s running around while USC is filled with 10s. Don't be stupid.

I never said UCLA has a bunch of 1s running around. I'm saying if the UCLA average is a 6, the USC average is close to a 9.

lol your bias is getting in the way of your ability to judge women. Its okay.

[canon]

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[3ThrowAway99]

how this devolved into a discussion about the 'hotness' of the women. I would go with UCLA, because even if all other things are essentially equal (particularly re: placement stats into CA biglaw), UCLA does have a stronger reputation outside CA IMO, and also does have a slight edge in rankings (which I imagine is at least partly due to a reputational disparity).

[aryathegreat]

As of now, no aid from either school so Im going to make my decision based on other factors. It looks like UCLA has some slight advantages to USC, all else being equal. Like I mentioned, the larger class size at UCLA makes me think that there is more competitiveness within students for internships/jobs/grades than USC. Thoughts?

[Curry]

As of now, no aid from either school so Im going to make my decision based on other factors. It looks like UCLA has some slight advantages to USC, all else being equal. Like I mentioned, the larger class size at UCLA makes me think that there is more competitiveness within students for internships/jobs/grades than USC. Thoughts?

Both schools are going to be competitive for jobs and grades.

[aryathegreat]

As of now, no aid from either school so Im going to make my decision based on other factors. It looks like UCLA has some slight advantages to USC, all else being equal. Like I mentioned, the larger class size at UCLA makes me think that there is more competitiveness within students for internships/jobs/grades than USC. Thoughts?

Both schools are going to be competitive for jobs and grades.

Thats of course going to be true of two top law schools, but I just wanted to see if UCLA had a competitive nature that was too cutthroat, i.e. felt more like fighting other students than succeeding together.

[99.9luft]

As of now, no aid from either school so Im going to make my decision based on other factors. It looks like UCLA has some slight advantages to USC, all else being equal. Like I mentioned, the larger class size at UCLA makes me think that there is more competitiveness within students for internships/jobs/grades than USC. Thoughts?

Both schools are going to be competitive for jobs and grades.

Thats of course going to be true of two top law schools, but I just wanted to see if UCLA had a competitive nature that was too cutthroat, i.e. felt more like fighting other students than succeeding together.

I know dozens of UCLA Law kids (who now graduated). Competitive and cut-throat is the opposite of what they described their law school experience as. That may be more true of USC. UCLA has a laid-back atmosphere.

Don't trust me, though. Go to the law school and ask the kids in the law library, I guarantee you they will say the same thing.

[Curry]

By the way, I'd think long and hard about paying sticker at either of these schools. It is a risky choice.

[dpk711]

As of now, no aid from either school so Im going to make my decision based on other factors. It looks like UCLA has some slight advantages to USC, all else being equal. Like I mentioned, the larger class size at UCLA makes me think that there is more competitiveness within students for internships/jobs/grades than USC. Thoughts?

Both schools are going to be competitive for jobs and grades.

Thats of course going to be true of two top law schools, but I just wanted to see if UCLA had a competitive nature that was too cutthroat, i.e. felt more like fighting other students than succeeding together.

I agree with Curry that they're equally reputable for SoCal although UCLA may have a slight edge in govt. related jerbs. OP, do you want to end up in LA? If not, UCLA is slightly better for non-LA jobs.

[dpk711]

By the way, I'd think long and hard about paying sticker at either of these schools. It is a risky choice.

This. Think both of them as a $200K lottery ticket with around a 35-40% chance of landing BIGLAW.

[Curry]

By the way, I'd think long and hard about paying sticker at either of these schools. It is a risky choice.

This. Think both of them as a $200K lottery ticket with around a 35-40% chance of landing BIGLAW.

35-40% is WAY high. Think 25-30%

[Gideon Strumpet]

I just wanted to see if UCLA had a competitive nature that was too cutthroat, i.e. felt more like fighting other students than succeeding together.

Yeah. You're doin it wrong.

[dpk711]

By the way, I'd think long and hard about paying sticker at either of these schools. It is a risky choice.

This. Think both of them as a $200K lottery ticket with around a 35-40% chance of landing BIGLAW.

35-40% is WAY high. Think 25-30%

I correct myself, 30-35% actually ITE. Regardless, I would never go to either at sticker.

[Curry]

By the way, I'd think long and hard about paying sticker at either of these schools. It is a risky choice.

This. Think both of them as a $200K lottery ticket with around a 35-40% chance of landing BIGLAW.

35-40% is WAY high. Think 25-30%

I correct myself, 30-35% actually ITE. Regardless, I would never go to either at sticker.

USC placed 28% of its grads in Biglaw in 2009 and UCLA placed 35%. Its thought by many on this site that both of those numbers will fall in next years NLJ report.

[dpk711]

USC placed 28% of its grads in Biglaw in 2009 and UCLA placed 35%. Its thought by many on this site that both of those numbers will fall in next years NLJ report.

Gotcha, I guess you're right then.

[aryathegreat]

As of now, no aid from either school so Im going to make my decision based on other factors. It looks like UCLA has some slight advantages to USC, all else being equal. Like I mentioned, the larger class size at UCLA makes me think that there is more competitiveness within students for internships/jobs/grades than USC. Thoughts?

Both schools are going to be competitive for jobs and grades.

Thats of course going to be true of two top law schools, but I just wanted to see if UCLA had a competitive nature that was too cutthroat, i.e. felt more like fighting other students than succeeding together.

I agree with Curry that they're equally reputable for SoCal although UCLA may have a slight edge in govt. related jerbs. OP, do you want to end up in LA? If not, UCLA is slightly better for non-LA jobs.

Most likely staying in LA.

While I believe its true that most students from these schools dont land biglaw immediately after graduating, most of these statistics fail to take into account further growth/job advancements a few years down the road.

[glewz]

This. Think both of them as a $200K lottery ticket with around a 35-40% chance of landing BIGLAW.

35-40% is WAY high. Think 25-30%

I correct myself, 30-35% actually ITE. Regardless, I would never go to either at sticker.

USC placed 28% of its grads in Biglaw in 2009 and UCLA placed 35%. Its thought by many on this site that both of those numbers will fall in next years NLJ report.

Here are stats for the last 4 years - minor differences.

USC | ~200 class size
2010: 28.7% (Rank 19)
2009: 41.3% (Rank 15)
2008: 47.6% (Rank 14)
2007: 43.6% (Rank 14)

UCLA | ~320 class size
2010: 35.1% (Rank 14)
2009: 35.9% (Rank 17)
2008: 42.4% (Rank 19)
2007: 39.1% (Rank 17)

Average USC Ranking: 15.5 vs. Average UCLA Ranking: 16.75
Average USC %: 40.3% vs. Average UCLA %: 38.1%

[Curry]

Most likely staying in LA.

While I believe its true that most students from these schools dont land biglaw immediately after graduating, most of these statistics fail to take into account further growth/job advancements a few years down the road.

lolwut.

Its near impossible to land a biglaw job if you don't get it while in law school (the exception being post article III clerkships)

[aryathegreat]

Most likely staying in LA.

While I believe its true that most students from these schools dont land biglaw immediately after graduating, most of these statistics fail to take into account further growth/job advancements a few years down the road.

lolwut.

Its near impossible to land a biglaw job if you don't get it while in law school (the exception being post article III clerkships)

i was referring to the salaries big law jobs make more so than the actual jobs