The End All For Each State's Best Law Schools Forum

[kswiss]

You know that there are schools outside the t14 that are going to do better in certain states than the "best school in the state."

yes i agree but in general T14 law schools could dominate most states if they need/want to.

I think what he was getting at is that some lower ranked schools might also dominate other states.

For ex. UW will beat both L&C and Oregon in Portland, BYU & Utah place better in ID than U Idaho and UNLV in NV, etc.

(I only really know one geographical area if you can tell from all of my school references.)

[prospectiveprospect]

You know that there are schools outside the t14 that are going to do better in certain states than the "best school in the state."

yes i agree but in general T14 law schools could dominate most states if they need/want to.

I think what he was getting at is that some lower ranked schools might also dominate other states.

For ex. UW will beat both L&C and Oregon in Portland, BYU & Utah place better in ID than U Idaho and UNLV in NV, etc.

(I only really know one geographical area if you can tell from all of my school references.)

I could put UW in Oregon's list. so we can list how each states prospective jobs are divided.
EDIT: i added an amendment, so people are not confused. and schools from other states can be added.

[im_blue]

I feel like you may need to geographically break down the state of California further. (Example: Loyola does very well in LA but I don't know how well they place in Norcal.)

I could do that how should i break it down?

You might start out with Los Angeles and San Francisco. If people are interested you could then expand to other legal markets.

The thing is, UCLA probably matches or beats Davis/Hastings in the SF Bay area. So the answer would be UCLA for both NorCal and SoCal.

[rx3r]

Excluding Stanford, here is my impression of dominance of California schools in LA:

1. UCLA
2. USC
(those two seem pretty close)
3. Loyola

Also, Pepperdine > Southwestern

[OneKnight]

North Carolina =
1) UNC
2) Wake Forest
(A close second, IMO)

[Maillot Jaune]

For Virginia, Washington and Lee edges out William and Mary by a hair.
Similar to Mass, it seems there are two school that are neck and neck.
Beyond the US News overall ranking, the specific rankings given to W&L by Judges/Lawyers and from peers (other schools), is ranked higher than W&M and therefore W&L is VA's best LS (IMO).

[rx3r]

I feel like you may need to geographically break down the state of California further. (Example: Loyola does very well in LA but I don't know how well they place in Norcal.)

I could do that how should i break it down?

You might start out with Los Angeles and San Francisco. If people are interested you could then expand to other legal markets.

The thing is, UCLA probably matches or beats Davis/Hastings in the SF Bay area. So the answer would be UCLA for both NorCal and SoCal.

You can put UCLA in the SF area too, but what I'm saying is a school like Loyola is going to be higher in LA than SF, so it helps to separate the areas for those who really want to practice in one area or the other.

[sundevil77]

Arizona

1. UofA
2. ASU

[im_blue]

Excluding Stanford, here is my impression of dominance of California schools in LA:

1. UCLA
2. USC
(those two seem pretty close)
3. Loyola

Also, Pepperdine > Southwestern

UCLA and USC are very close in LA, but USC gets crushed in SF.

[kswiss]

Dude, did you realize it was going to be this much work to keep up this list? Its only been like 15 minutes and you've made like 15 edits.

[Scurredsitless1]

Pennsylvania -Temple/Pitt/Villanova/PSU??

[rx3r]

Excluding Stanford, here is my impression of dominance of California schools in LA:

1. UCLA
2. USC
(those two seem pretty close)
3. Loyola

Also, Pepperdine > Southwestern

UCLA and USC are very close in LA, but USC gets crushed in SF.

Right, which is why it's valuable to separate the LA and SF markets. So, for instance, if you really want to practice in SF it would make more sense to go to Hastings vs. USC, perhaps, but if you want LA, then USC > Hastings.

[CaptainSnuggleBunny]

Rhode Island - Roger Williams is the only LS in the state.

[danquayle]

I feel like you may need to geographically break down the state of California further. (Example: Loyola does very well in LA but I don't know how well they place in Norcal.)

I could do that how should i break it down?

You might start out with Los Angeles and San Francisco. If people are interested you could then expand to other legal markets.

You should do SoCal and NorCal. I don't see the point of breaking it down further, otherwise you're going to have to start breaking down every major population state...

[prospectiveprospect]

Dude, did you realize it was going to be this much work to keep up this list? Its only been like 15 minutes and you've made like 15 edits.

I have nothing but time im on spring break and have nothing going on

[CaptainSnuggleBunny]

Wisconsin: UW Madison followed by Marquette

[jarofsoup]

Cali- UC Davis, Hastings, LA

[danquayle]

You know that there are schools outside the t14 that are going to do better in certain states than the "best school in the state."

yes i agree but in general T14 law schools could dominate most states if they need/want to.

I think what he was getting at is that some lower ranked schools might also dominate other states.

For ex. UW will beat both L&C and Oregon in Portland, BYU & Utah place better in ID than U Idaho and UNLV in NV, etc.

(I only really know one geographical area if you can tell from all of my school references.)

I could put UW in Oregon's list. so we can list how each states prospective jobs are divided.
EDIT: i added an amendment, so people are not confused. and schools from other states can be added.

I don't think you should do that, because there are certain schools that COULD do better in many states but simply don't send a lot of students there. For example, a degree from a Wash U or Vanderbilt type school would probably have more value than a North Dakota degree even in North Dakota, but its not exactly like either of those schools has a pipeline into those states. It should only be the in-state schools. Otherwise you'll have the same handful of schools for all the states with small populations.

[danquayle]

In terms of a list:

Indiana:

Notre Dame
Indiana-Bloomington
Indiana-Indy
Valparaiso

Michigan:

Wayne State
Michigan State
Detroit Mercy
Cooley

Nebraska:

Nebraska
Creighton

I want someone to do Ohio, because thats going to be awful messy after Case Western.

[Unitas]

South Carolina:
1) University of South Carolina
2) Charleston School of Law

Only two law schools in SC...

[ToTransferOrNot]

Doing this thread is so irrelevant for DC, New York and Illinois...

[danquayle]

Doing this thread is so irrelevant for DC, New York and Illinois...

Yeah, most useful would be by market, but that'd change the entire idea behind the thread. By state is useful if you absolutely want to stay and work in the state you're already in.

[prospectiveprospect]

Anyone have any info on Alabama?

[GordonBombay]

This has been covered in a pretty PDF at the bottom of the article. Sure you can argue and things change but its a nice collection of data.

http://www.law.com/jsp/nlj/PubArticleNL ... oginloop=o

[pjo]

Pennsylvania -Temple/Pitt/Villanova/PSU??

I really think PA is a major crapshoot. I'lll throw in my 2cents tho. Also, I included schools from other states, sorry if that wasn't allowed lol.

Pennsylvania
1.Temple
2.Pitt/Villanova
3.PSU
4.Rutgers
5.Duquesne
--actually after thinking about this Temple/Pitt/Nova should all be 1 for PA

Virginia
1.William and Mary
2.Washington and Lee

Ohio
1.Notre Dame
2.OSU
3.Case

West Virginia
1.Pitt
2.WVU

D.C.
1.GW
2.BU