FINAL: NYU ($) v. Duke ($$) v. HLS - LS22 needs your help Forum

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Which would you choose?

NYU ($154k)
1
2%
Duke ($79k)
12
27%
HLS ($165k)
32
71%
 
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Post by Power_of_Facing » Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:50 am

Your brain says Duke, but your heart says NYU...

What does your gut tell you?

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Post by lawschool22 » Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:08 am

:lol: Sorry guys, I know my indecisiveness is getting old. I feel like I should clarify why I'm asking about NYU again. It's not so much that it is a heart vs. head decision - I am confident I would be equally happy at either school. I guess what I'm still wrestling with is whether there is anything I am giving up as far as career opportunities early on and down the road, and whether these opportunities justify the now lower cost of NYU.

I imagine the answer is still "no," but I wanted to run it by all of you intelligent people before making my final-final decision :)

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Post by buffalo_ » Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:12 am

lawschool22 wrote::lol: Sorry guys, I know my indecisiveness is getting old. I feel like I should clarify why I'm asking about NYU again. It's not so much that it is a heart vs. head decision - I am confident I would be equally happy at either school. I guess what I'm still wrestling with is whether there is anything I am giving up as far as career opportunities early on and down the road, and whether these opportunities justify the now lower cost of NYU.

I imagine the answer is still "no," but I wanted to run it by all of you intelligent people before making my final-final decision :)
If this truly the only reason, I would say go to Duke. NYU will have slightly better hiring numbers, but the difference probably isn't worth 75k. I don't think either school will boost DC.

The only reason to attend NYU at this point is for the LRAP (which I checked, is much better than Duke) or if that is where your heart is.

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Re: NEW FACTS: NYU ($) v. Duke ($$) - LS22 needs your help

Post by jbagelboy » Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:17 am

lawschool22 wrote::lol: Sorry guys, I know my indecisiveness is getting old. I feel like I should clarify why I'm asking about NYU again. It's not so much that it is a heart vs. head decision - I am confident I would be equally happy at either school. I guess what I'm still wrestling with is whether there is anything I am giving up as far as career opportunities early on and down the road, and whether these opportunities justify the now lower cost of NYU.

I imagine the answer is still "no," but I wanted to run it by all of you intelligent people before making my final-final decision :)
What do you mean by additional funding

Boomer parents saying go to the best usnwr and we'll pay the difference?

Same game every time. Do you what you gotta do but don't forget your own words of wisdom splattered across this board

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Post by ZGr88n » Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:28 am

I'd still take Duke.

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Re: NEW FACTS: NYU ($) v. Duke ($$) - LS22 needs your help

Post by Power_of_Facing » Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:31 am

lawschool22 wrote::lol: Sorry guys, I know my indecisiveness is getting old. I feel like I should clarify why I'm asking about NYU again. It's not so much that it is a heart vs. head decision - I am confident I would be equally happy at either school. I guess what I'm still wrestling with is whether there is anything I am giving up as far as career opportunities early on and down the road, and whether these opportunities justify the now lower cost of NYU.

I imagine the answer is still "no," but I wanted to run it by all of you intelligent people before making my final-final decision :)
NYU earned (EARNED, DAMMIT!) a whopping 1.53 more points than Duke in the latest ATL ranking.

If that isn't worth tens of thousands of dollars then--Heaven help me--I just don't know what is.

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Post by chizzy » Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:33 am

also take into account the place you would be happy in. would you prefer to live in NYC or durham? dont underestimate how the social scene could affect your performance.

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Re: NEW FACTS: NYU ($) v. Duke ($$) - LS22 needs your help

Post by lawschool22 » Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:42 pm

jbagelboy wrote:
lawschool22 wrote::lol: Sorry guys, I know my indecisiveness is getting old. I feel like I should clarify why I'm asking about NYU again. It's not so much that it is a heart vs. head decision - I am confident I would be equally happy at either school. I guess what I'm still wrestling with is whether there is anything I am giving up as far as career opportunities early on and down the road, and whether these opportunities justify the now lower cost of NYU.

I imagine the answer is still "no," but I wanted to run it by all of you intelligent people before making my final-final decision :)
What do you mean by additional funding

Boomer parents saying go to the best usnwr and we'll pay the difference?

Same game every time. Do you what you gotta do but don't forget your own words of wisdom splattered across this board
It's related to a complicated situation that I won't get into here, but it isn't that situation. You're right - I know what I need to do. I think I just needed to confirm that with everyone else ITT to make sure I am going to make the right decision.

I appreciate everyone's help. I think I will be very happy at Duke, and the added benefit of <$80k debt at repayment will probably feel worth it in the end.

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Post by gta » Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:57 pm

lawschool22 wrote:
jbagelboy wrote:
lawschool22 wrote::lol: Sorry guys, I know my indecisiveness is getting old. I feel like I should clarify why I'm asking about NYU again. It's not so much that it is a heart vs. head decision - I am confident I would be equally happy at either school. I guess what I'm still wrestling with is whether there is anything I am giving up as far as career opportunities early on and down the road, and whether these opportunities justify the now lower cost of NYU.

I imagine the answer is still "no," but I wanted to run it by all of you intelligent people before making my final-final decision :)
What do you mean by additional funding

Boomer parents saying go to the best usnwr and we'll pay the difference?

Same game every time. Do you what you gotta do but don't forget your own words of wisdom splattered across this board
It's related to a complicated situation that I won't get into here, but it isn't that situation. You're right - I know what I need to do. I think I just needed to confirm that with everyone else ITT to make sure I am going to make the right decision.

I appreciate everyone's help. I think I will be very happy at Duke, and the added benefit of <$80k debt at repayment will probably feel worth it in the end.

I think you'll be happiest when you finalize this decision and put it behind you once and for all :D

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Re: NEW FACTS: NYU ($) v. Duke ($$) - LS22 needs your help

Post by jbagelboy » Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:04 pm

gta wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:
jbagelboy wrote:
lawschool22 wrote::lol: Sorry guys, I know my indecisiveness is getting old. I feel like I should clarify why I'm asking about NYU again. It's not so much that it is a heart vs. head decision - I am confident I would be equally happy at either school. I guess what I'm still wrestling with is whether there is anything I am giving up as far as career opportunities early on and down the road, and whether these opportunities justify the now lower cost of NYU.

I imagine the answer is still "no," but I wanted to run it by all of you intelligent people before making my final-final decision :)
What do you mean by additional funding

Boomer parents saying go to the best usnwr and we'll pay the difference?

Same game every time. Do you what you gotta do but don't forget your own words of wisdom splattered across this board
It's related to a complicated situation that I won't get into here, but it isn't that situation. You're right - I know what I need to do. I think I just needed to confirm that with everyone else ITT to make sure I am going to make the right decision.

I appreciate everyone's help. I think I will be very happy at Duke, and the added benefit of <$80k debt at repayment will probably feel worth it in the end.

I think you'll be happiest when you finalize this decision and put it behind you once and for all :D
Yea, I agree with this.

FWIW I wasn't trying to be hard on you bro, maybe that post came off strong. You've just been at this for a while and people's initial conclusions often get redrawn when they factor in all the variables, including family.

Look - as the poster above me said, choosing is the agony. People rarely spend a lot of time regretting choosing one school or another (until debt payments kick in, that is), and once you decide you'll put this all past you. If you decide to go to NYU, we'll all be happy for you. Same if you stick with Duke.

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Post by lawschool22 » Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:01 am

An update:

Well, quite surprisingly I got into HLS off the wait list. I've calculated a conservative estimated need-based aid amount, and my total COA will likely be around $165k. I know that some of you would still take Duke in this case ($79k), but for my goals (federal clerkship probably, DC biglaw, and government) I feel HLS is the right call for me, and at a not-horrible price. I wanted to update the thread so that future choosers will have the final information. Thanks to everyone for your help through this process.

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Post by barrelofmonkeys » Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:03 am

lawschool22 wrote:An update:

Well, quite surprisingly I got into HLS off the wait list. I've calculated a conservative estimated need-based aid amount, and my total COA will likely be around $165k. I know that some of you would still take Duke in this case ($79k), but for my goals (federal clerkship probably, DC biglaw, and government) I feel HLS is the right call for me, and at a not-horrible price. I wanted to update the thread so that future choosers will have the final information. Thanks to everyone for your help through this process.
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Post by lawschool22 » Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:25 am

barrelofmonkeys wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:An update:

Well, quite surprisingly I got into HLS off the wait list. I've calculated a conservative estimated need-based aid amount, and my total COA will likely be around $165k. I know that some of you would still take Duke in this case ($79k), but for my goals (federal clerkship probably, DC biglaw, and government) I feel HLS is the right call for me, and at a not-horrible price. I wanted to update the thread so that future choosers will have the final information. Thanks to everyone for your help through this process.
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Post by ymmv » Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:39 am

lawschool22 wrote:An update:

Well, quite surprisingly I got into HLS off the wait list. I've calculated a conservative estimated need-based aid amount, and my total COA will likely be around $165k. I know that some of you would still take Duke in this case ($79k), but for my goals (federal clerkship probably, DC biglaw, and government) I feel HLS is the right call for me, and at a not-horrible price. I wanted to update the thread so that future choosers will have the final information. Thanks to everyone for your help through this process.
Congratulations! I would still choose Duke, personally, but HLS for $165k is not an unreasonable decision.

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Post by star fox » Thu Jun 05, 2014 10:26 pm

Close call. Went for Harvard.Lower T-14s are tricky in that below median grades makes it tough.. BigLaw from Harvard is like... a sure thing?? Or am I way off?

It's like a year post-taxes Big Law Salary difference, so I guess is it worth forfeiting for being that much more secure in your immediate goal?

0L here so all my advice is pretty meaningless.

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john7234797 wrote:Close call. Went for Harvard.Lower T-14s are tricky in that below median grades makes it tough.. BigLaw from Harvard is like... a sure thing?? Or am I way off?

It's like a year post-taxes Big Law Salary difference, so I guess is it worth forfeiting for being that much more secure in your immediate goal?

0L here so all my advice is pretty meaningless.
The reality is, it would make no sense to pay that much for Harvard over Duke just for "biglaw" - but its very rational for DC specifically and gov't. The distinction in placement power there is very real.

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Post by Crowing » Fri Jun 06, 2014 12:21 am

Daaaammnn 3.6/173 can get HLS now? And I thought last year was a serious buyer's market already.

Not to denigrate you though OP! Congrats on the acceptance :P

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Crowing wrote:Daaaammnn 3.6/173 can get HLS now? And I thought last year was a serious buyer's market already.

Not to denigrate you though OP! Congrats on the acceptance :P
Lol no denigration taken. Thank you. I will say it was not easily won - I definitely put quite a bit of effort into the entire process. That may have had something to do with it, I'm not sure. I also think work experience played a role, and seems to be more and more important these days. And I'm sure there was a large bit of luck at play too :)

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Post by lawschool22 » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:47 am

jbagelboy wrote:
john7234797 wrote:Close call. Went for Harvard.Lower T-14s are tricky in that below median grades makes it tough.. BigLaw from Harvard is like... a sure thing?? Or am I way off?

It's like a year post-taxes Big Law Salary difference, so I guess is it worth forfeiting for being that much more secure in your immediate goal?

0L here so all my advice is pretty meaningless.
The reality is, it would make no sense to pay that much for Harvard over Duke just for "biglaw" - but its very rational for DC specifically and gov't. The distinction in placement power there is very real.
Yep! This is the key point I hope current and future 0Ls realize - this was totally based on my specific goals.

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