Cities with best Quality of Life Forum

[Renzo]

There is a reason: Suck tends to aggregate.

I always thought that was the explanation for Midtown Manhattan.

A different kind of suck (the blackberry belt-holster kind), but another case in point.

[MC Southstar]

I don't think Philly is that bad, but I definitely wouldn't stack it above any of the other cities on the list.

[biggamejames]

There is a reason: Suck tends to aggregate.

I always thought that was the explanation for Midtown Manhattan.

A different kind of suck (the blackberry belt-holster kind), but another case in point.

Least we agree on something.

And as a concession to the Philly haters, I will admit that I was woken up at 2:00 AM by gunshots last night.

[CE2JD]

NY quality of life greater than San Diego?

Puuleeeeeeeeeeeeeze...

This poll is too heavily influenced by NYC kids going to t14 law schools.

[biggamejames]

NY quality of life greater than San Diego?

Puuleeeeeeeeeeeeeze...

This poll is too heavily influenced by NYC kids going to t14 law schools.

SD is still too expensive for my shit, but yeah, NYC > SD in terms of QOL is pretty ridiculous. This only makes sense if you're one of those people who is only happy when you're having sex with a broke heroin-addicted artist in Williamsburg.

[Renzo]

NY quality of life greater than San Diego?

Puuleeeeeeeeeeeeeze...

This poll is too heavily influenced by NYC kids going to t14 law schools.

I really, really like SD, but NYC it's not.

[CE2JD]

NY quality of life greater than San Diego?

Puuleeeeeeeeeeeeeze...

This poll is too heavily influenced by NYC kids going to t14 law schools.

I really, really like SD, but NYC it's not.

[Renzo]

NY quality of life greater than San Diego?

Puuleeeeeeeeeeeeeze...

This poll is too heavily influenced by NYC kids going to t14 law schools.

I really, really like SD, but NYC it's not.

Oh, I forgot! San Diego has the Air and Space Museum! You win.

[coolkatz321]

NYC by a mile...if you can afford it.

I'll throw in my personal bias and say Madison, WI...tons to do, lots of young people, it's cheap and a great place to live.

[M51]

I'm suprised NYC is doing so well... not the first name that pops into your head when you think QoL.
But damned if I haven't felt more alive since I started living here.

[Renzo]

The only thing the poll is settling is what cities are definitely not it. We need a bracketed playoff system instead of a multi-position poll.

[General Tso]

are we talking about quality vs cost of life? anywhere is pretty great if you are rich. i would rather be middle class is milwaukee than middle class in SF.

I'll take middle class in SF over millionaire in Mississppi.

EDIT: However, I do agree on the Milwaukee/SF choice.

I like Mississippi.

I can't believe Mississippi has come up so many times in a thread about cities with the best quality of life. There are no cities in Mississippi. Jackson has like 175,000 people and it is awful. The MS coast sucks...the water is black with turds and it gets wiped out every 10 years by hurricanes. When I lived there the only things to do were drive to New Orleans or Memphis or something...and those cities are not fun for long.

Also surprised at all the Denver love. I don't see much difference between it and Dallas (except for the mountains in the distance).

I vote SD, NYC, Seattle, Portland, SF. In that order.

[superflush]

Can you reasonably expect more than a couple of people on TLS to have lived in enough of the aforementioned to cities so as to form a mildly educated opinion on each city's QoL?

No. But I think some people have definitely visited several cities and are familiar with them.

[superflush]

San Francisco (but can be expensive) should be high on the list
Portland, Seattle, Chicago, Boston & NY are definitely high up (NYC being much more expensive that the others) (Boston 2nd expensive of these)
San Diego is great as well
Denver maybe doesn't have high of a QOL as others
Philadelphia probably last out of these
Never been to Austin

[Carnival1860]

A threat like this will lead to a whole lot of discussions...

Anyways I would take San Francisco hands down. Seattle and Chicago would be pretty high on the list too.

[j2d3]

I really, really like SD, but NYC it's not.

Not being NYC or anything like it is one of the great things about SD. .. LA, too. The west coast / east coast debate will never be resolved.
LA is the greatest city in the world, though.

[superflush]

[strike]LA is the greatest city in the world, though[/strike].

oh god, not again with this crap. stop the LA trolling. LA sucks.
go try to find us some QOL rankings with LA higher than any of these cities: SF, Portland, Seattle, Chicago, Boston, NYC ... and I would thing that SD definitely out-paces LA for QOL as well.

[observationalist]

Shameless anti-south trolling.

Include at least one southern city, make it Nashville, and then this poll stands a chance at letting people vote their minds.

If you think of it in terms of regional brackets, you can certainly remove Philly (which will lose to every other east coast city) and Portland (which loses to Seattle).

I'd also like to see how Austin and Nashville chalk up. Both are mid-sized cities with great weather, cheap COL, excellent live music, clean air/green spaces, and a generally welcoming population (at least when compared with some of the more insular cities in between the coasts and Boston).

[superflush]

Shameless anti-south

Austin is on there

[superflush]

you can certainly remove Philly (which will lose to every other east coast city) and Portland (which loses to Seattle).

Not true. Philly definitely beats Baltimore ... probably Wilmington as well.

[MoS]

I know there was some lobbying to get Austin on the list, but I am not sure how realistic it is to expect to be working in Austin after law school. It's not that big of a town, I imagine there is a lot greater likelihood of working in Dallas or Houston and probably even San Antonio than Austin.

That being said, I voted Austin, but I think Dallas should be on the list, I would vote Dallas in that case and Chicago in a close second.

[superflush]

I know there was some lobbying to get Austin on the list, but I am not sure how realistic it is to expect to be working in Austin after law school. It's not that big of a town, I imagine there is a lot greater likelihood of working in Dallas or Houston and probably even San Antonio than Austin.

I guess. But it has just as big of a legal market as Portland does.

[observationalist]

Shameless anti-south

Austin is on there

I would argue Texas is Texas. It's different there.

you can certainly remove Philly (which will lose to every other east coast city) and Portland (which loses to Seattle).

Not true. Philly definitely beats Baltimore ... probably Wilmington as well.

Didn't see Baltimore on the list. There are 3 cities in the northeast, 2 in the pac northwest, 2 in cali, 1 in the rockies, 1 in texas, and none in the south. I'm suggesting the OP drops the weakest of the northeast and PNW cities, add some geographical diversity, and let's move on. Of the top 20 or so law schools at least 3 are in a region that's left entirely off this list... I move to add Nashville and perhaps DC (another conspicuously absent southern city), since many people often end up competing to live either there or NY.

[superflush]

Didn't see Baltimore on the list. There are 3 cities in the northeast, 2 in the pac northwest, 2 in cali, 1 in the rockies, 1 in texas, and none in the south.

Oh, of just the cities up there. yea NY & Boston are better than Philly.

[superflush]

Shameless anti-south

Austin is on there

I would argue Texas is Texas. It's different there.

hm. I would consider that the states that tried to secede from the Union are definitely part of the south.