5 PROS + 5 CONS of YOUR LAW SCHOOL Forum

grizzlybear · Post by **grizzlybear** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:12 pm

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McAvoy · Post by **McAvoy** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:17 pm

You can't fairly compare American and Korean BBQ. It's like ranking Spaghetti and Meatball by region then asking where Lamb and Tuna Fish fit in.

JustHawkin · Post by **JustHawkin** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 3:42 pm

McAvoy wrote:You can't fairly compare American and Korean BBQ. It's like ranking Spaghetti and Meatball by region then asking where Lamb and Tuna Fish fit in.

McAvoy, you're my favorite TLSer.

grizzlybear · Post by **grizzlybear** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 4:23 pm

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LawBron James · Post by **LawBron James** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 5:00 pm

beachbum wrote:BBQ, ranked:

1) Texas
2) Tennessee (Memphis)
3) Missouri (KC)
4) South Carolina (mustard-based)
5) Starving to death
6) North Carolina

This man knows his BBQ. This is the one thing I'm scared about if I go to Duke.

phillywc · Post by **phillywc** » Fri Oct 10, 2014 11:35 am

NYU:

+Free Drink Tickets at bar review

AnonymousAlterEgoC · Post by **AnonymousAlterEgoC** » Sat Oct 11, 2014 1:43 am

Texas

Pros
1) Fedora guy
2) Dancing guy
3) Gunners with actual guns
4) BBQ
5) Austin

Cons
1) Texas "pronunciation" (JALAP-ENO... not joking)
2) Traffic
3) The school looks like a bomb shelter surrounded by pretty trees
4) "T15"
5) McAvoy

hiima3L · Post by **hiima3L** » Sun Oct 12, 2014 6:48 am

UC Hastings

Pros:
1. Good professors. With the exception of one visiting prof 1L year, all of mine were excellent. In particular, really damn good LWR/moot court/practice-based classes instructors.
2. Surprisingly good reputation in CA, both lay and among lawyers.
3. Enormous alumni network in CA. (I'm still unsure of how important an alumni network is, but it certainly doesn't hurt.)
4. Very strong extracurricular programs (moot court, trial team, negotiations teams, etc.) and practice-based classes. As a shitigator, I found the competition teams I was on and the related classes to be extremely useful.
5. It's in the Tenderloin (which is also a con, see below). Best place for food in SF, best nightlife IMO, one of the few not laughably expensive neighborhoods in SF. I grew to really love living in the TL.

Cons:
1. Job placement rate is atrocious. The school simply is not worth attending under any circumstances nowadays. It was hit really hard by ITE and it's in a death spiral. It just gets worse and worse every year. Its class size needs to be trimmed by more than half at the very least.
2. Cost. It's so stupidly expensive that I don't know how anyone goes there, much less pays sticker, as almost everyone does because UCs don't give scholarships. I went for near-free and wouldn't even recommend going in the same circumstances.
3. It's in the TL. The TL is a messed up and depressing part of SF. I regularly saw people shooting up, passed out, shitting, etc. I would not want to be a girl in the TL.
4. I'm in a small minority with this, but SF is so fucking overrated. It's prohibitively expensive, always cold, covered in homeless people and their byproducts, the Mexican food is utter shit, and the city is run and overrun by smug faux progressives who love the smell of their own farts.
5. Completely unknown outside of CA.

DaleCooper · Post by **DaleCooper** » Wed Dec 10, 2014 9:07 pm

NYU

Pros:
1. Living in New York is awesome.
2. New York is a great place to do a semester externship.
3. This school is rich as hell. Facilities, fellowships, good LRAP, free trips, free food, free alcohol...
4. Adjunct professors at NYU and Columbia tend to be the most impressive people alive.
5. BigLaw for almost everybody who wants it, awesomely helpful new PILC Director for those who don't.

Cons:
1. Living in New York is expensive.
2. Law students are terrible. Probably not worse here than anywhere else, but still.
3. This school is rich as hell. There's a lot of privilege, and not the self-aware Duke kind of privilege either.
4. There's a 8-hour adjunct cap, and tenured professors are hired for their CVs, not their teaching skills.
5. Non-lawyers in the other 49 states think NYU is where gritty cop characters go to night school.

03152016 · Post by **03152016** » Wed Dec 10, 2014 9:19 pm

DaleCooper wrote:5. Non-lawyers in the other 49 states think NYU is where gritty cop characters go to night school.

chargers · Post by **chargers** » Fri Dec 12, 2014 1:41 am

Kentucky

Pros:

1. Pretty cheap.
2. Good employment numbers.
3. Professors are great. It's a relatively small school so you have the chance to get to know your professors and for the most part they're great about helping you out in anyway possible.
4. Lexington is an under-rated city. (I'm from here so I'm biased on this point)
5. Student tickets to basketball games.

Cons:

1. Stingy with scholly money.
2. Low starting salaries.
3. Better be top ~10% if you want a job outside of the state.
4.The law school building is awful.
5. Student tickets to football games.

MistakenGenius · Post by **MistakenGenius** » Fri Dec 12, 2014 2:34 am

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Kratos · Post by **Kratos** » Fri Dec 12, 2014 7:03 am

MistakenGenius wrote: The pizza is fantastic, way better than NYC or Chicago (that's right, come at me bros)

This opinion just sucks.

compass · Post by **compass** » Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:11 am

Kratos wrote:
MistakenGenius wrote: The pizza is fantastic, way better than NYC or Chicago (that's right, come at me bros)
This opinion just sucks.

You have clearly never been to Pepe's.

Kratos · Post by **Kratos** » Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:22 am

compass wrote:
Kratos wrote:
MistakenGenius wrote: The pizza is fantastic, way better than NYC or Chicago (that's right, come at me bros)
This opinion just sucks.
You have clearly never been to Pepe's.

I have, what of it?

pancakes3 · Post by **pancakes3** » Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:24 am

Kratos wrote:
MistakenGenius wrote: The pizza is fantastic, way better than NYC or Chicago (that's right, come at me bros)
This opinion just sucks.

To be fair, he's just simply living up to his user name.

A. Nony Mouse · Post by **A. Nony Mouse** » Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:24 am

New Haven pizza is pretty awesome. But you have to go to New Haven to get it.

compass · Post by **compass** » Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:48 am

Kratos wrote:
compass wrote: You have clearly never been to Pepe's.
I have, what of it?

Best pizza I've ever had, but to each his own.

Elston Gunn · Post by **Elston Gunn** » Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:59 am

New Haven pizza is pretty awesome, though below the best New York places for me.

03152016 · Post by **03152016** » Fri Dec 12, 2014 1:48 pm

never had new haven pizza
so i'll reserve judgment
but i strongly suspect it's not as good as roberta's

logical seasoning · Post by **logical seasoning** » Sat Dec 13, 2014 11:29 am

Michigan

Pros

1. I'm convinced the Michigan difference is a thing. Weirdly, students act overly nice to each other as a self-fulfilling prophecy type thing. Dean Z actually remembers things that you wrote in your apps and references them when you speak to her
2. Beautiful buildings. Wedding photos are taken here daily.
3. Students are outgoing, cool, and smart
4. If you can make median, job is almost guaranteed anywhere in the country
5. Professors are awesome + 3 graded doctrinals and 1 legal writing, which is easy and ends 2 weeks before finals
6. Cheapest T14

Cons

1. My eyeball juices freeze from the cold
2. NCAA sports is failing
3. Extreme fear of falling into the bottom third
4. I would argue worst lay prestige of the T14. ("You chose Michigan over Georgetown???")
5. I dont like Ann Arbor, but most people do

Poopface · Post by **Poopface** » Sat Dec 13, 2014 11:34 am

logical seasoning wrote:Michigan

Pros

1. I'm convinced the Michigan difference is a thing. Weirdly, students act overly nice to each other as a self-fulfilling prophecy type thing. Dean Z actually remembers things that you wrote in your apps and references them when you speak to her
2. Beautiful buildings. Wedding photos are taken here daily.
3. Students are outgoing, cool, and smart
4. If you can make median, job is almost guaranteed anywhere in the country
5. Professors are awesome + 3 graded doctrinals and 1 legal writing, which is easy and ends 2 weeks before finals
6. Cheapest T14

Cons

1. My eyeball juices freeze from the cold
2. NCAA sports is failing
3. Extreme fear of falling into the bottom third
4. I would argue worst lay prestige of the T14. ("You chose Michigan over Georgetown???")
5. I dont like Ann Arbor, but most people do

Lol i think nyu is worst lay prestige by far

Elston Gunn · Post by **Elston Gunn** » Sat Dec 13, 2014 11:42 am

logical seasoning wrote:Michigan

4. If you can make median, job is almost guaranteed anywhere in the country

Er, by "anywhere in the country" do you mean "New York City?" Or has Michigan like doubled its placement ability since I was looking at schools?

RCSOB657 · Post by **RCSOB657** » Sat Dec 13, 2014 1:09 pm

He never included the quality of job in his statement.

I'm still lol'ing at the people who think TX rub is real bbq.

Person1111 · Post by **Person1111** » Sat Dec 13, 2014 1:39 pm

Harvard

Pros:
1. You are pretty much guaranteed biglaw if you want it. Federal clerk and government placement is excellent too.
2. Very strong career services (for both public and private sector jobs) and probably the best alumni network in the world.
3. A ridiculous breadth of course offerings.
4. Tons of lay prestige.
5. Many excellent professors (who may or may not overlap with the professors who are excellent scholars).

Cons:
1. $$$$$
2. Many professors are horrible. Sometimes you can avoid them, sometimes you can't.
3. Boston is overpriced, has terrible weather, and is full of awful people.
4. Students are generally unfriendly (unless you're part of the same clique), stressed-out, and gunnery.
5. The administration is bureaucratic, unfriendly, and terrible about accommodating very reasonable requests. They will treat you like you are completely fungible and unimportant, and it gets frustrating after a few years.