T14 Sticker vs. T30 Full Tuition Scholly Forum

utahraptor · Post by **utahraptor** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 10:21 pm

90convoy wrote:This may sound weird, but why don't people just not work in NYC when taking on sticker debt. Sticker debt + NYC biglaw doesn't afford much of a decent lifestyle.

path of least resistance leads to NEW YARK CITY

I mean, market paying places are generally NY, Chicago, DC, LA, SF, and Texas

Chicago is smaller and more insular
DC is hard to get (and has a high cost of living)
SF has a high cost of living
LA is harder to get and still isn't cheap
Texas is super insular

HTH

BigZuck · Post by **BigZuck** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 10:21 pm

90convoy wrote:This may sound weird, but why don't people just not work in NYC when taking on sticker debt. Sticker debt + NYC biglaw doesn't afford much of a decent lifestyle.

I don't think it's as easy as "Just do market paying with low COL bro"

90convoy · Post by **90convoy** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 10:26 pm

hmm. well okay then

fats provolone · Post by **fats provolone** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 10:31 pm

i struck out in atlanta and i lived there for 10+ yrs

Tiago Splitter · Post by **Tiago Splitter** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 10:34 pm

Sticker debt + 125k as a fourth year in Minneapolis doesn't do much for a decent lifestyle either.

utahraptor · Post by **utahraptor** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 10:41 pm

fats provolone wrote:i struck out in atlanta and i lived there for 10+ yrs

from what I hear, Atlanta seems like the king of all bloodbath markets

fats provolone · Post by **fats provolone** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 10:43 pm

utahraptor wrote:
fats provolone wrote:i struck out in atlanta and i lived there for 10+ yrs
from what I hear, Atlanta seems like the king of all bloodbath markets

yea it's v competitive. which makes sense bc i could literally buy a fucking mansion there and can't afford a 2br condo here. most of the firms pay 160 for patent too (but compressed scale later I assume)

DaRascal · Post by **DaRascal** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:18 pm

I wonder what it'll take to become the kingpin of the Iowa legal market.

BigZuck · Post by **BigZuck** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:30 pm

DaRascal wrote:I wonder what it'll take to become the kingpin of the Iowa legal market.

DaRascal · Post by **DaRascal** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:32 pm

BigZuck wrote:
90convoy wrote:This may sound weird, but why don't people just not work in NYC when taking on sticker debt. Sticker debt + NYC biglaw doesn't afford much of a decent lifestyle.
I don't think it's as easy as "Just do market paying with low COL bro"

I don't know much as a 0L, but I think it's all about sacrifice. If you're willing to give up a lot of the common luxuries knowing you'll be able to procure them again five or so years down the line, then living with debt won't be all that bad. Keep a 3 suit rotation so that you don't spend too much on clothes/laundry, and then ditch whenever the firm is having socials or some kind of pricey dinner arrangements.

BigZuck · Post by **BigZuck** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:38 pm

DaRascal wrote:
BigZuck wrote:
90convoy wrote:This may sound weird, but why don't people just not work in NYC when taking on sticker debt. Sticker debt + NYC biglaw doesn't afford much of a decent lifestyle.
I don't think it's as easy as "Just do market paying with low COL bro"
I don't know much as a 0L, but I think it's all about sacrifice. If you're willing to give up a lot of the common luxuries knowing you'll be able to procure them again five or so years down the line, then living with debt won't be all that bad. Keep a 3 suit rotation so that you don't spend too much on clothes/laundry, and then ditch whenever the firm is having socials or some kind of pricey dinner arrangements.

sublime · Post by **sublime** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:39 pm

BigZuck · Post by **BigZuck** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:42 pm

sublime wrote:I enjoy your schtick ITT, Zuck.

DaRascal · Post by **DaRascal** » Mon Jan 26, 2015 12:59 am

Is there any good law school within a two hours drive of Las Vegas? I'll seriously consider working my SAT job another year so I can almost completely get rid of my UG debt if there is one.

I mean Iowa is great and all and I can't wait to gun, but I think eventually I'm going to want to live in or near Vegas.

sublime · Post by **sublime** » Mon Jan 26, 2015 1:00 am

DaRascal · Post by **DaRascal** » Mon Jan 26, 2015 1:03 am

I always thought UNLV was a terrible TTT though.

I know UCLA is only a three and a half hour drive away and I did get WL'ed a few years ago; perhaps an ED next cycle could put me over the top there. Who cares about sticker? The closer I am to Vegas, the easier it'll be to expeditiously break even on grad school debt.

cron1834 · Post by **cron1834** » Mon Jan 26, 2015 1:03 am

DaRascal wrote:Is there any good law school within a two hours drive of Las Vegas? I'll seriously consider working my SAT job another year so I can almost completely get rid of my UG debt if there is one.

I mean Iowa is great and all and I can't wait to gun, but I think eventually I'm going to want to live in or near Vegas.

Just go to UNLV and stop the madness.

BigZuck · Post by **BigZuck** » Mon Jan 26, 2015 1:03 am

sublime wrote:
DaRascal wrote:Is there any good law school within a two hours drive of Las Vegas? I'll seriously consider working my SAT job another year so I can almost completely get rid of my UG debt if there is one.

I mean Iowa is great and all and I can't wait to gun, but I think eventually I'm going to want to live in or near Vegas.

You could be a Runnin' Rebel, bro.

Why be 83rd best when you can be 27th best?

BigZuck · Post by **BigZuck** » Mon Jan 26, 2015 1:05 am

DaRascal wrote:I always thought UNLV was a terrible TTT though.

I know UCLA is only a three and a half hour drive away and I did get WL'ed a few years ago; perhaps an ED next cycle could put me over the top there. Who cares about sticker? The closer I am to Vegas, the easier it'll be to expeditiously break even on grad school debt.

Why would you bother with Vegas when you would have the Commerce Casino right there?

DaRascal · Post by **DaRascal** » Mon Jan 26, 2015 1:09 am

BigZuck wrote:
DaRascal wrote:I always thought UNLV was a terrible TTT though.

I know UCLA is only a three and a half hour drive away and I did get WL'ed a few years ago; perhaps an ED next cycle could put me over the top there. Who cares about sticker? The closer I am to Vegas, the easier it'll be to expeditiously break even on grad school debt.
Why would you bother with Vegas when you would have the Commerce Casino right there?

That's a really good point. I can save up the money from working this next year, only make the minimum payments on my loans, defer them, and then... Boom!! $10-15k of play money to spend at the Commerce Casino. This could work out well. I just wonder how difficult it would be to balance law school and pro poker. Someone mentioned "Rounders" before. I haven't seen that movie, but, if the plot is similar, I'll check it out so I have at least have a little bit of guidance here.

DaRascal · Post by **DaRascal** » Mon Jan 26, 2015 1:11 am

cron1834 wrote:
DaRascal wrote:Is there any good law school within a two hours drive of Las Vegas? I'll seriously consider working my SAT job another year so I can almost completely get rid of my UG debt if there is one.

I mean Iowa is great and all and I can't wait to gun, but I think eventually I'm going to want to live in or near Vegas.
Just go to UNLV and stop the madness.

Yeah but I need to go to a good law school as a fallback option so that if I happen to get really unlucky I can still have a decent job as a lawyer.

sublime · Post by **sublime** » Mon Jan 26, 2015 1:16 am

DaRascal · Post by **DaRascal** » Mon Jan 26, 2015 1:20 am

sublime wrote: Do you NEED Vegas, or just some school that has a casino in that city. I feel like a ton of cities have at least one casino close.

Vegas, because I love action (hockey, horses, Greek soccer, prop betting etc), and I'll be primed to play in all the meaningful poker tourneys if I'm there. I guess the only option I really have is to take the full ride I've been given, gun, work very hard to at least get a $50k+ job out of law school, save up every penny for a few years, and then spend my work vacations in Vegas.

It's just so disheartening to know that I might not be able to get in the game until I'm 32 or 33!

DaRascal · Post by **DaRascal** » Mon Jan 26, 2015 1:37 am

The prodigal gambler with a criminal record and the modest T30 in a pristine, quaint Midwestern town. Will this work?

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