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Which option?

Duke
13
15%
NYU
39
45%
Cornell
2
2%
Northwestern
1
1%
Virginia
3
3%
USC
22
25%
Wash U
7
8%
 
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Re: Aspiring Sports Agent Going to Law School

Post by Hipster but Athletic » Wed Apr 02, 2014 2:13 pm

He wants to be an agent, not GC...

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Re: Aspiring Sports Agent Going to Law School

Post by BigZuck » Wed Apr 02, 2014 2:49 pm

MistakenGenius wrote:
snagglepuss wrote:
Paul Campos wrote:I think you may be overrating lay prestige relative to law school prestige as a factor in your decision. I ran your situation past Metta World Peace (fka as Ron Artest), and he gave me an interesting glimpse into how professional athletes go about selecting agents. This is a pretty close paraphrase of his comments:

"The top NBA stars are all very sensitive to annual changes in the law school rankings when choosing their agents. I remember getting into an argument last year with Carmelo Anthony about whether GULC's relatively poor big law score was a product of self-selection into government and PI, and a few weeks ago I saw Kevin Durant and Ricky Rubio nearly came to blows over a disagreement regarding the significance of UVA's school-funded job percentage.

"Also, keep in mind that the quality of the rest of the agent's resume counts as well. A couple of years ago LeBron was almost convinced to switch to new representation, but when he saw the guy's resume he was turned off by his time at Latham, which according to King James 'isn't really a V10.' So he went with a SullCrom guy instead. I guess you could say the first guy got Lathamed!"

HTH
This was pretty 180. Well played, PC.
I have the biggest brocrush on Campos. He's the best.

OP, it would be stupid for you to choose any of these options. I don't know why people are choosing NYU, it would literally ruin your career aspirations. I think people just like getting themselves off to the CCN brand no matter the circumstances. I know a number of NFL players and asked them about it. I think a law degree can indeed help you out. That said, considering athletes don't give a damn about prestige (besides maybe Harvard), why would you waste money on a T14? Considering your law prestige doesn't matter at all, my advice would be to grab a full-ride at a school which regularly sends a number of athletes to the NBA. My first thought was UNC. You could most likely get a full ride there, and that connection would help you get your foot in the door at a lot of top programs. If you'd rather do NFL, then I'd switch to Bama. I don't watch baseball, but I think South Carolina has won something like three national championships in a row. Another thought for you would be to select an online law school. You only need the JD. This would give you the opportunity to network and get your name out there while enrolled in law school.

TLDR: Good luck! Follow your dreams!
Dude. Just being on a campus with college athletes doesn't automatically give you connections to them. And I'm sure if you go out of your way to stalk them you're going to get arrested. This makes no sense.

You're trolling right?

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Re: Aspiring Sports Agent Going to Law School

Post by rickgrimes69 » Wed Apr 02, 2014 3:18 pm

MistakenGenius wrote:Considering your law prestige doesn't matter at all, my advice would be to grab a full-ride at a school which regularly sends a number of athletes to the NBA. My first thought was UNC.
Unacceptable anti-Duke trolling

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Re: Aspiring Sports Agent Going to Law School

Post by timbs4339 » Wed Apr 02, 2014 3:33 pm

I would put any law student's chances of being tossed out on his ass trying to crash UG parties where star athletes hang out as substantial. What exactly is the plan, troll the freshman dorm dining hall?

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Re: Aspiring Sports Agent Going to Law School

Post by timbs4339 » Wed Apr 02, 2014 3:41 pm

MistakenGenius wrote:
timbs4339 wrote:I would put any law student's chances of being tossed out on his ass trying to crash UG parties where star athletes hang out as substantial. What exactly is the plan, troll the freshman dorm dining hall?
Are you guys really so socially awkward and beta that you're unable to walk up to someone you see and start a conversation? Star athletes aren't unicorns, they're normal guys walking around the school. Yes, I went to parties all the time with them, but there are other ways. OP's plan was stupid (hope he's seriously changed it), but going for free at a place where he can socialize with people and make connections was the best option of any of those. Also, worst comes to worst, he can always just register for some Pan-African studies classes. That's where a huge number of stars take classes. I know first-hand.
Ok you got me. Good troll.

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Re: Aspiring Sports Agent Going to Law School

Post by DrStudMuffin » Wed Apr 02, 2014 3:44 pm

BigZuck wrote:
MistakenGenius wrote:
snagglepuss wrote:
Paul Campos wrote:I think you may be overrating lay prestige relative to law school prestige as a factor in your decision. I ran your situation past Metta World Peace (fka as Ron Artest), and he gave me an interesting glimpse into how professional athletes go about selecting agents. This is a pretty close paraphrase of his comments:

"The top NBA stars are all very sensitive to annual changes in the law school rankings when choosing their agents. I remember getting into an argument last year with Carmelo Anthony about whether GULC's relatively poor big law score was a product of self-selection into government and PI, and a few weeks ago I saw Kevin Durant and Ricky Rubio nearly came to blows over a disagreement regarding the significance of UVA's school-funded job percentage.

"Also, keep in mind that the quality of the rest of the agent's resume counts as well. A couple of years ago LeBron was almost convinced to switch to new representation, but when he saw the guy's resume he was turned off by his time at Latham, which according to King James 'isn't really a V10.' So he went with a SullCrom guy instead. I guess you could say the first guy got Lathamed!"

HTH
This was pretty 180. Well played, PC.
I have the biggest brocrush on Campos. He's the best.

OP, it would be stupid for you to choose any of these options. I don't know why people are choosing NYU, it would literally ruin your career aspirations. I think people just like getting themselves off to the CCN brand no matter the circumstances. I know a number of NFL players and asked them about it. I think a law degree can indeed help you out. That said, considering athletes don't give a damn about prestige (besides maybe Harvard), why would you waste money on a T14? Considering your law prestige doesn't matter at all, my advice would be to grab a full-ride at a school which regularly sends a number of athletes to the NBA. My first thought was UNC. You could most likely get a full ride there, and that connection would help you get your foot in the door at a lot of top programs. If you'd rather do NFL, then I'd switch to Bama. I don't watch baseball, but I think South Carolina has won something like three national championships in a row. Another thought for you would be to select an online law school. You only need the JD. This would give you the opportunity to network and get your name out there while enrolled in law school.

TLDR: Good luck! Follow your dreams!
Dude. Just being on a campus with college athletes doesn't automatically give you connections to them. And I'm sure if you go out of your way to stalk them you're going to get arrested. This makes no sense.

You're trolling right?

Ignoring the fact that becoming a successful agent is wildly difficult and improbable, if you want to become one you need to be able to connect with successful collegiate athletes. Just because it's unlikely to work doesn't mean it's the wrong advice in this situation. Instead, I would say the goal of becoming a sports agent is what needs to be reexamined.

Given that OP seems pretty set on this path though - good luck, and follow your dreams or something.

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Re: Aspiring Sports Agent Going to Law School

Post by BigZuck » Wed Apr 02, 2014 3:51 pm

timbs4339 wrote:
MistakenGenius wrote:
timbs4339 wrote:I would put any law student's chances of being tossed out on his ass trying to crash UG parties where star athletes hang out as substantial. What exactly is the plan, troll the freshman dorm dining hall?
Are you guys really so socially awkward and beta that you're unable to walk up to someone you see and start a conversation? Star athletes aren't unicorns, they're normal guys walking around the school. Yes, I went to parties all the time with them, but there are other ways. OP's plan was stupid (hope he's seriously changed it), but going for free at a place where he can socialize with people and make connections was the best option of any of those. Also, worst comes to worst, he can always just register for some Pan-African studies classes. That's where a huge number of stars take classes. I know first-hand.
Ok you got me. Good troll.
Yeah, I just don't know why he would wait until the thread died to bust out the troll job though. A week ago seems like it would have been better timing. Oh well.

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Re: Aspiring Sports Agent Going to Law School

Post by Gooner91 » Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:00 pm

Go to Miami. I think Beckham is starting a MLS team there. All you gotta do is befriend him I bet he has a ton of connections.

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Re: Aspiring Sports Agent Going to Law School

Post by Poopface » Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:31 pm

MistakenGenius wrote:
snagglepuss wrote:
Paul Campos wrote:I think you may be overrating lay prestige relative to law school prestige as a factor in your decision. I ran your situation past Metta World Peace (fka as Ron Artest), and he gave me an interesting glimpse into how professional athletes go about selecting agents. This is a pretty close paraphrase of his comments:

"The top NBA stars are all very sensitive to annual changes in the law school rankings when choosing their agents. I remember getting into an argument last year with Carmelo Anthony about whether GULC's relatively poor big law score was a product of self-selection into government and PI, and a few weeks ago I saw Kevin Durant and Ricky Rubio nearly came to blows over a disagreement regarding the significance of UVA's school-funded job percentage.

"Also, keep in mind that the quality of the rest of the agent's resume counts as well. A couple of years ago LeBron was almost convinced to switch to new representation, but when he saw the guy's resume he was turned off by his time at Latham, which according to King James 'isn't really a V10.' So he went with a SullCrom guy instead. I guess you could say the first guy got Lathamed!"

HTH
This was pretty 180. Well played, PC.
I have the biggest brocrush on Campos. He's the best.

OP, it would be stupid for you to choose any of these options. I don't know why people are choosing NYU, it would literally ruin your career aspirations. I think people just like getting themselves off to the CCN brand no matter the circumstances. I know a number of NFL players and asked them about it. I think a law degree can indeed help you out. That said, considering athletes don't give a damn about prestige (besides maybe Harvard), why would you waste money on a T14? Considering your law prestige doesn't matter at all, my advice would be to grab a full-ride at a school which regularly sends a number of athletes to the NBA. My first thought was UNC. You could most likely get a full ride there, and that connection would help you get your foot in the door at a lot of top programs. If you'd rather do NFL, then I'd switch to Bama. I don't watch baseball, but I think South Carolina has won something like three national championships in a row. Another thought for you would be to select an online law school. You only need the JD. This would give you the opportunity to network and get your name out there while enrolled in law school.

TLDR: Good luck! Follow your dreams!
"It would literally ruin your career aspirations"???? Are you kidding me? That's ludicrous. And he isn't taking out loans to go to law school, he said his parents are footing the bill, pay attention. He should absolutely go to the best law school he can rather than go to some shittier school on scholarship for so many reasons. Your boys in the nfl might not give a damn about prestige (which i don't even believe btw, even a pro athlete who knows nothing about law schools knows an ivy league name when he hears one and will certainly be impressed by it, even if it only marginally), but if money isn't a factor then there is no reason not to go to the best law school. Online law school? That has to be a joke. Someone with an opportunity to go to the majority of the t14s is going to go to an online law school? do those even exist? Yes networking is the most important thing in sports industry, but if he's going to go to law school regardless, he might as well do it right and take advantage of the best opportunities that are available to him. You don't have to be networking in law school (sure it would be helpful but def not absolutely necessary). If you are going to go to law school your priority should be focusing on the study of the law, otherwise it would be a waste of time. The alternative to going to law school is running around right now after college and hustling/networking for sports contacts. There is no reason why he can't do that in three years after law school graduation. remember he will not be in any debt! there is NO rush! Homie is a senior in college, he's prob like 21. He should go to the best law school he can. Even if he doesn't make a single contact during law school, guess what he's in pretty much the same position as he would be in right now graduating college and trying to start in the sports industry (remember NO loans/debt), oh except that he would also have a world class law degree in his back pocket. There is no compelling reason not to attend a great law school in this situation

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Re: Aspiring Sports Agent Going to Law School

Post by bound » Wed Apr 02, 2014 5:11 pm

Poopface wrote:
MistakenGenius wrote:
snagglepuss wrote:
Paul Campos wrote:I think you may be overrating lay prestige relative to law school prestige as a factor in your decision. I ran your situation past Metta World Peace (fka as Ron Artest), and he gave me an interesting glimpse into how professional athletes go about selecting agents. This is a pretty close paraphrase of his comments:

"The top NBA stars are all very sensitive to annual changes in the law school rankings when choosing their agents. I remember getting into an argument last year with Carmelo Anthony about whether GULC's relatively poor big law score was a product of self-selection into government and PI, and a few weeks ago I saw Kevin Durant and Ricky Rubio nearly came to blows over a disagreement regarding the significance of UVA's school-funded job percentage.

"Also, keep in mind that the quality of the rest of the agent's resume counts as well. A couple of years ago LeBron was almost convinced to switch to new representation, but when he saw the guy's resume he was turned off by his time at Latham, which according to King James 'isn't really a V10.' So he went with a SullCrom guy instead. I guess you could say the first guy got Lathamed!"

HTH
This was pretty 180. Well played, PC.
I have the biggest brocrush on Campos. He's the best.

OP, it would be stupid for you to choose any of these options. I don't know why people are choosing NYU, it would literally ruin your career aspirations. I think people just like getting themselves off to the CCN brand no matter the circumstances. I know a number of NFL players and asked them about it. I think a law degree can indeed help you out. That said, considering athletes don't give a damn about prestige (besides maybe Harvard), why would you waste money on a T14? Considering your law prestige doesn't matter at all, my advice would be to grab a full-ride at a school which regularly sends a number of athletes to the NBA. My first thought was UNC. You could most likely get a full ride there, and that connection would help you get your foot in the door at a lot of top programs. If you'd rather do NFL, then I'd switch to Bama. I don't watch baseball, but I think South Carolina has won something like three national championships in a row. Another thought for you would be to select an online law school. You only need the JD. This would give you the opportunity to network and get your name out there while enrolled in law school.

TLDR: Good luck! Follow your dreams!
"It would literally ruin your career aspirations"???? Are you kidding me? That's ludicrous. And he isn't taking out loans to go to law school, he said his parents are footing the bill, pay attention. He should absolutely go to the best law school he can rather than go to some shittier school on scholarship for so many reasons. Your boys in the nfl might not give a damn about prestige (which i don't even believe btw, even a pro athlete who knows nothing about law schools knows an ivy league name when he hears one and will certainly be impressed by it, even if it only marginally), but if money isn't a factor then there is no reason not to go to the best law school. Online law school? That has to be a joke. Someone with an opportunity to go to the majority of the t14s is going to go to an online law school? do those even exist? Yes networking is the most important thing in sports industry, but if he's going to go to law school regardless, he might as well do it right and take advantage of the best opportunities that are available to him. You don't have to be networking in law school (sure it would be helpful but def not absolutely necessary). If you are going to go to law school your priority should be focusing on the study of the law, otherwise it would be a waste of time. The alternative to going to law school is running around right now after college and hustling/networking for sports contacts. There is no reason why he can't do that in three years after law school graduation. remember he will not be in any debt! there is NO rush! Homie is a senior in college, he's prob like 21. He should go to the best law school he can. Even if he doesn't make a single contact during law school, guess what he's in pretty much the same position as he would be in right now graduating college and trying to start in the sports industry (remember NO loans/debt), oh except that he would also have a world class law degree in his back pocket. There is no compelling reason not to attend a great law school in this situation

Yo, Poopface. I'm gonna need you to calm down.

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Re: Aspiring Sports Agent Going to Law School

Post by dsamuels » Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:31 pm

As a Division 1 athlete who just graduated in December I can tell you that connections to college athletes is important. But let me also tell you this. I have also had internships at law firms that have sports agent divisions. I have experienced the life of a sports agent for two summers while preparing for my upcoming athletic seasons. Let me tell you....its fun. But let me also tell you this, as an agent you do not get paid off the bat. Instead you pay for your clients if your aim is college athletes. They have no money. You have to pay to train them, clothe them and prepare them for the draft. In addition, they can always fire you anytime even after you spent like 40k on them and hire another agent. You do not get paid until they sign a contract. So though your college connections may be important its probably more important if you had connections already with free agents or players already in the sport. In regards to law school, go to the best one you can or the least expensive one you can. Thats it. Those are your only two options. I would suggest you go to a school that has ties to sports & entertainment programs or happens to be in a city where sports are important. Being a sports agent is not hard. Its keeping the clients happy, adding new clients, and traveling 24/7 thats hard. This is not the show entourage. This is real life.

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Dude what happened? Are you a sports agent now

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