Class of 2013 Employment Data Forum

[d cooper]

Actually I take that back — Duke is down by a hair.

[04102014]

Yale
Stanford
Harvard
Columbia
Chicago
NYU
Penn
UVA
Berkeley
Duke
Michigan
Northwestern
Georgetown
Cornell

This is where we stand.

[The Dark Shepard]

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[JCougar]

Why has nobody posted Cooley's numbers??


Edited: Oh, I found them!!! http://www.cooley.edu/publicinformation ... y_2013.pdf

LOLOLOL

0.69 + 0.17 = 0.86%

26.9% employed in FTLT legal jobs.

I had no idea their class size was so enormous.

Notice that's including 46 people in "solo" practice.

[The Dark Shepard]

How does cooley fool 1100 people?

[sasquatchsam]

Did someone already post Stanford?

http://www.law.stanford.edu/sites/defau ... PDATED.pdf

48.5 + 29.4 = 77.9

Is that right?

Yup

I love how SLS actually tells you what the JD Advantage jobs, Professional Positions, and School Funded Positions are.

[d cooper]

Why has nobody posted Cooley's numbers??


Edited: Oh, I found them!!! http://www.cooley.edu/publicinformation ... y_2013.pdf

LOLOLOL

0.69 + 0.17 = 0.86%

26.9% employed in FTLT legal jobs.

I had no idea their class size was so enormous.

Notice that's including 46 people in "solo" practice.

Good call. Without it: 22.9% employed.

[R1chardParker]

Interesting tidbit on Northwestern's numbers. 32 graduates reported their salary in the business/industry category, and the 25th percentile for salary was $98,750, meaning at least 24 additional grads were making 98,750+, which makes up 8.45% of the class (24/284).

[Tiago Splitter]

On topic, so much for any supposed recovery of the legal market. These are basically last years numbers redux.

I'm curious to see the final totals in the 100+ category. 2010 was 5600, 2011 was way down at 4700, then 2012 was back to 5600. I'm guessing from these numbers that there will be a slight uptick, but I think we'll find out that the 5500-6000 range is officially the "new normal." For anyone curious, 2008 was 8400.

I love how SLS actually tells you what the JD Advantage jobs, Professional Positions, and School Funded Positions are.

Yeah that's great. I've always figured the top schools had the most to gain from the transparency movement. Although I'm not sure why a faculty member at the Stanford School of Design is required to pass the California Bar exam.

In regards to Cooley, their class size has plummeted, so keep up the good work. Like any good scammer I'm sure they still have some tricks up their sleeve and desperation brings everything out.

[Nelson]

Although I'm not sure why a faculty member at the Stanford School of Design is required to pass the California Bar exam.

The new cross appointment will really improve their interdisciplinary offerings in "Law and Basketweaving."

[RLowry23]

UIUC: 24.7% (57/231) + .03% (08/231) = 25%

http://www.law.illinois.edu/content/pdf ... df?v031814

EDIT: Apparently the numbers are already posted here and I did the calculations wrong?

[chargers]

Alabama:
20+17=37/166
22.2%---Up from 17.4% in 2012.
http://www.law.ua.edu/wp-content/upload ... ummary.pdf

Hopefully I did that right! (Most likely I did not, so feel free to correct it )

[rad lulz]

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[theotherone823]

Looks like it has started coming out. Update the thread with Biglaw (101+ attorneys) plus FedClerk hiring numbers.

Columbia: 73.2 + 4.8 = 78%
Stanford: 48.5 + 29.4 = 77.9
Chicago: 62.3 + 10.2 = 72.6%
Harvard: 54.5 + 17.0 = 71.5%
Penn: 59.8 + 9.3 = 69.1%
NYU: 58.3 + 8.8 = 67.0%
Yale: 30.5 + 35 = 65.5%
Northwestern: 55.6 + 7.7 = 63.4%
Duke: 51.4 + 8.7 = 60.2%
GULC: 41.4 + 5.1 = 46.5%
Fordham: 34.1 + 2.5 = 36.6%
Boston College: 29.6 + 4.3 = 34%
Notre Dame: 28.3 + 5.4 = 33.7%
WUSTL: 29 + 3.3 = 32.3%
Illinois: 24.7 + 3.4 = 28.1%
William and Mary: 21.7 + 3.7 = 25.3%

Others available by searching thread or checking school websites. All info will be on LST in the next few weeks.

FYI the link in the OP for Stanford is wrong - it goes to BC's data

[pluto111]

why not also add the percent employed in education to each school's total? Seems like those jobs are at least as hard to get as biglaw and federal clerkships.

[chuckbass]

why not also add the percent employed in education to each school's total? Seems like those jobs are at least as hard to get as biglaw and federal clerkships.

That doesn't necessarily mean academia.

[Yanky91]

Wake Forest

13.2%+3.1%= 16.3%

http://career.law.wfu.edu/stats/class-o ... t-profile/

[jbagelboy]

why not also add the percent employed in education to each school's total? Seems like those jobs are at least as hard to get as biglaw and federal clerkships.

That doesn't necessarily mean academia.

Yea.. Education often means LSAT prep classes.

[04102014]

M and V are being awfully reticent...

[Ricky-Bobby]

How does cooley fool 1100 people?

I recently talked to a guy who graduated from Cooley. He said, "Cooley is where you go when you get a bad LSAT score and don't want to retake it."

There ya have it, kids. Straight from the unemployable horse's mouth.

[UVAIce]

A lot of UVA's websites update at a particular time of day. I would be willing to bet that it will be there at 7:00 p.m. Eastern.

[Psy123]

not sure if there is a cutoff on what schools you're putting up but I thought it might be informative to show these Chicago schools since many people who want to work in Chicago are considering them...

Chicago Kent: 9.9 + 0.4 = 10.3%
http://www.kentlaw.iit.edu/Documents/De ... AL2013.pdf

John Marshall Law School: 3.8 + 0.4 = 4.2%
http://www.jmls.edu/career-services/job ... oyment.pdf

Loyola Chicago: N/A

DePaul: N/A

[lhanvt13]

New England School of Law:
8+0/342 = 2.3%
http://www.nesl.edu/ABA%20Employment%20 ... .17.14.pdf
LOL

[Mnav20]

Ohio State; Moritz College of Law

16.9% (38/225)+ 4.4% (10/225) = 21.3%

http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/careers/wp-con ... 13ABA1.pdf

[lawschool22]

Ohio State; Moritz College of Law

16.9% (38/225)+ 4.4% (10/225) = 21.3%

http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/careers/wp-con ... 13ABA1.pdf

That's actually better than I thought they would be.