how do we feel about UC Irvine at this point? Forum

[MyNameIsFlynn!]

if UCI is providing a cheaper alternative to the two big law schools in Southern Cal, that's a positive thing as it may allow/encourage more people in the area to focus on the underserved populations rather than gunning for big law firms. And there is definitely a shortage of lawyers who are willing or financially able to represent poor people in LA and Orange County.

As I said in the last post, "adding another law school is not going to necessarily help or hurt the situation"-- The "situation" being that the poor are under served.

So what is the point of adding another lawl school again? Not clear

Step up yer trollin man

[J-e-L-L-o]

I think the OP was a lil misguided as where UCI will fall within rankings. Everyone knows the rankings are crap anyway.

These discussions are pretty much useless. TLS users should know the only thing that matters about which law school you go to is employment. So far, as of now, UCI has not disappointed in that regard. Clerkships are high, bar passage is 2nd in the state behind Stanford (and higher than UCLA, USC, and gasp even Berkeley), and grads are getting jobs.

I've always been an advocate of UCI. When students start complaining ala Hastings, then let the bashing begin. That is not the case. The few TLS UCI students have nothing but great things to say about their school. Do you hear the same from Davis, Hastings, and WUSTL grads? Hell no.

Subjective analysis is funny but in reality doesn't capture what UCI is doing and their numbers are proving to be great.

[BigZuck]

I think the OP was a lil misguided as where UCI will fall within rankings. Everyone knows the rankings are crap anyway.

These discussions are pretty much useless. TLS users should know the only thing that matters about which law school you go to is employment. So far, as of now, UCI has not disappointed in that regard. Clerkships are high, bar passage is 2nd in the state behind Stanford (and higher than UCLA, USC, and gasp even Berkeley), and grads are getting jobs.

I've always been an advocate of UCI. When students start complaining ala Hastings, then let the bashing begin. That is not the case. The few TLS UCI students have nothing but great things to say about their school. Do you hear the same from Davis, Hastings, and WUSTL grads? Hell no.

Subjective analysis is funny but in reality doesn't capture what UCI is doing and their numbers are proving to be great.

How are they proving to be great?

[bananasplit19]

How are they proving to be great?

Clerkships are high, bar passage is 2nd in the state behind Stanford (and higher than UCLA, USC, and gasp even Berkeley), and grads are getting jobs.

But those numbers are of a disproportionately small sample size of the full-scholly first class, so it doesn't prove anything. When the class sizes rise, percentages will fall, Chem's favors will run out, then it'll be TTT.

Well, those numbers are all we have to go on, and while they don't prove UCI is the real deal, they run counter to the "UCI is TTT" argument. Plus, when the percentages drop due to increased class sizes, that doesn't mean it'll fall to TTT level, just from the obviously-unsustainable better-than-Yale level. Percentages dropping and Irvine still being a good school aren't mutually exclusive.

Nuh-uh.

Uh-huh.

And so on and so forth. No one will be convinced because there's no way to prove anything right now. FWIW, all the Irvine folks I've spoken to (even outside of the vaunted first class) are very happy with their school and their prospects, as Jello alluded to. Conversely, all the anti-UCI folks are happy to not go to Irvine. So everyone gets what they want for themselves. Win-win.

Except no one gets to win the internet argument

[Dr. Dre]

I think the OP was a lil misguided as where UCI will fall within rankings. Everyone knows the rankings are crap anyway.

These discussions are pretty much useless. TLS users should know the only thing that matters about which law school you go to is employment. So far, as of now, UCI has not disappointed in that regard. Clerkships are high, bar passage is 2nd in the state behind Stanford (and higher than UCLA, USC, and gasp even Berkeley), and grads are getting jobs.

I've always been an advocate of UCI. When students start complaining ala Hastings, then let the bashing begin. That is not the case. The few TLS UCI students have nothing but great things to say about their school. Do you hear the same from Davis, Hastings, and WUSTL grads? Hell no.

Subjective analysis is funny but in reality doesn't capture what UCI is doing and their numbers are proving to be great.

[pluto111]

bananasplit19, bravo on being a voice of reason. I think we can basically end this conversation--and all the other meaningless speculative conversations about uci that go nowhere--now that you've made that post. Well said.

[Dr. Dre]

bananasplit19, bravo on being a voice of reason. I think we can basically end this conversation--and all the other meaningless speculative conversations about uci that go nowhere--now that you've made that post. Well said.

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[Dr. Dre]

WUSTL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TTTT UCI

[BigZuck]

How are they proving to be great?

Clerkships are high, bar passage is 2nd in the state behind Stanford (and higher than UCLA, USC, and gasp even Berkeley), and grads are getting jobs.

But those numbers are of a disproportionately small sample size of the full-scholly first class, so it doesn't prove anything. When the class sizes rise, percentages will fall, Chem's favors will run out, then it'll be TTT.

Well, those numbers are all we have to go on, and while they don't prove UCI is the real deal, they run counter to the "UCI is TTT" argument. Plus, when the percentages drop due to increased class sizes, that doesn't mean it'll fall to TTT level, just from the obviously-unsustainable better-than-Yale level. Percentages dropping and Irvine still being a good school aren't mutually exclusive.

Nuh-uh.

Uh-huh.

And so on and so forth. No one will be convinced because there's no way to prove anything right now. FWIW, all the Irvine folks I've spoken to (even outside of the vaunted first class) are very happy with their school and their prospects, as Jello alluded to. Conversely, all the anti-UCI folks are happy to not go to Irvine. So everyone gets what they want for themselves. Win-win.

Except no one gets to win the internet argument

Well then, at that point you just have to use some logic and common sense and make some educated guesses. One side of the argument does a good job of this, the other does not IMO.

[ManoftheHour]

I think the OP was a lil misguided as where UCI will fall within rankings. Everyone knows the rankings are crap anyway.

These discussions are pretty much useless. TLS users should know the only thing that matters about which law school you go to is employment. So far, as of now, UCI has not disappointed in that regard. Clerkships are high, bar passage is 2nd in the state behind Stanford (and higher than UCLA, USC, and gasp even Berkeley), and grads are getting jobs.

I've always been an advocate of UCI. When students start complaining ala Hastings, then let the bashing begin. That is not the case. The few TLS UCI students have nothing but great things to say about their school. Do you hear the same from Davis, Hastings, and WUSTL grads? Hell no.

Subjective analysis is funny but in reality doesn't capture what UCI is doing and their numbers are proving to be great.

Wtf is up with the random wustl shot? I'm not saying it's t14 level but it is far better than hastings, Davis, and yes, uci. Also, romo and the other guys in the wustl thread seem pretty content. They just aren't forced to defend it all the time as it is established, unlike uci

Lol, HasTTTTings.

[californiauser]

WUSTL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TTTT UCI

UCI is the WUSTL of California.

[TheThriller]

WUSTL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TTTT UCI

UCI is the WUSTL of California.

Bold Statement.

[Meepo]

I am not exactly sure what that means.

it means uci is fucked

i thought some of the uci kids transferred out to chapman

[Dr. Dre]

WUSTL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TTTT UCI

UCI is the WUSTL of California.

180 trolling, bro

[kyle010723]

WUSTL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TTTT UCI

UCI is the WUSTL of California.

WUSTL is just a step below T14 in the Midwest, UCI is below T14 + USC/UCLA. So the correct analogy would be UCI is the Midwestern T25 of California.

[John_rizzy_rawls]

WUSTL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TTTT UCI

UCI is the WUSTL of California.

WUSTL is just a step below T14 in the Midwest, UCI is below T14 + USC/UCLA. So the correct analogy would be UCI is the Midwestern T25 of California.

The East German judge grants you a 4.5 for this fuckawful mental gymnastics routine.

[californiauser]

WUSTL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TTTT UCI

UCI is the WUSTL of California.

WUSTL is just a step below T14 in the Midwest, UCI is below T14 + USC/UCLA. So the correct analogy would be UCI is the Midwestern T25 of California.

UCLA and USC are better than WUSTL, too.

[Monochromatic Oeuvre]

WUSTL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TTTT UCI

UCI is the WUSTL of California.

WUSTL is just a step below T14 in the Midwest, UCI is below T14 + USC/UCLA. So the correct analogy would be UCI is the Midwestern T25 of California.

Just a step? Whose step? Paul Bunyan? Goliath? Godzilla?

Also, LOL at comparing totally different regions to try and demonstrate one school's superiority.

"UCLA is the best school in Los Angeles, but NYU is only the second-best school in New York. Therefore, UCLA > NYU." Find the flawed assumption...

[kyle010723]

Just a step? Whose step? Paul Bunyan? Goliath? Godzilla?

Also, LOL at comparing totally different regions to try and demonstrate one school's superiority.

"UCLA is the best school in Los Angeles, but NYU is only the second-best school in New York. Therefore, UCLA > NYU." Find the flawed assumption...

lol, credited.

[Dr. Dre]

"UCLA is the best school in Los Angeles, but NYU is only the second-best school in New York. Therefore, UCLA > NYU." Find the flawed assumption...

1 fucking 80!

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[ManoftheHour]

All trolling aside, UCI is probably going to be better than Loyola and worse than UCLA/USC. It might be able to snipe some jobs from SD, but that's a really small, oversaturated market for lawyers. some very high-performing students will do fine in L.A. It's probably not a great investment for most students, but it's not a TTTT or whatever.

Are you saying it's better than UCH, which has been around way longer? If not, then it's TTTT. Because UCH is pretty TTTT.

46% full time attorney jobs. 7% of that is school funded. That's 39%. That's pretty TTTT man.

[Dr. Dre]

I wonder if UCI adcoms have read this thread...