2014 Rankings Released Forum

[FeelTheHeat]

Dude someone needs to white knight the rankings.

[pedestrian]

Ouch! Just noticed that Pitt took a nasty drop. I figured they would place people pretty well in middle Pennsylvania.

The problem with Pittsburgh is that every Pittsburgher dreams of settling down in Pittsburgh and having lots of little Pittsburghers. So the best and brightest go off to top schools all over the country and come back with their shiny degrees and leave the locally educated with no employment options but the drivethru and the stockroom.

And it's Western Pennsylvania. There are no people in middle Pennsylvania.

[Gunnar Stahl]

Dude someone needs to white knight the rankings.

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lol poor History_Buff

[Rory19]

what was the biggest drop? lewis and clark @ 22?

FML

[IAFG]

I've seen IAFG on here before. Total naysayer. I've wanted to be lawyer my whole life. Why would someone like you spend your energy telling people not to go to law school when YOU'RE IN LAW SCHOOL. Doesn't that sound a little dumb?

Joke's on you, I'm not in law school.

But yeah, if you disregard advice from anyone who has first hand experience with stuff you don't and then tells you you're wrong, you can guarantee that no one ever upsets your world view, and that's pretty nice.

[Rahviveh]

Is there any indication the employment component was changed to only include JD required jobs?

[sublime]

..

[manofjustice]

I've seen IAFG on here before. Total naysayer. I've wanted to be lawyer my whole life. Why would someone like you spend your energy telling people not to go to law school when YOU'RE IN LAW SCHOOL. Doesn't that sound a little dumb?

Joke's on you, I'm not in law school.

But yeah, if you disregard advice from anyone who has first hand experience with stuff you don't and then tells you you're wrong, you can guarantee that no one ever upsets your world view, and that's pretty nice.

Mal Reynolds, IAFG just took it to another level. Justify your worldview. Go.

[pedestrian]

Is there any indication the employment component was changed to only include JD required jobs?

No, it also includes JD advantage

* Represents the percentage of all graduates who had a full-time job lasting at least a year for which bar passage was required or a J.D. degree was an advantage.

[Rory19]

Is there any indication the employment component was changed to only include JD required jobs?

From watching the interview I believe I heard that preference was given to those jobs in terms of weight.

[justonemoregame]

Is there any indication the employment component was changed to only include JD required jobs?

I don't know, but Bama is 21, and that's going to trick a lot of east coasters into moving down to Tuscaloosa

[Gunnar Stahl]

Is there any indication the employment component was changed to only include JD required jobs?

No, it also includes JD advantage

* Represents the percentage of all graduates who had a full-time job lasting at least a year for which bar passage was required or a J.D. degree was an advantage.

having a jd is an advantage for calling prospective students

[jne381]

I am skeptical. I haven't seen or heard of this.

http://insidethelawschoolscam.blogspot. ... o-you.html

Yeah, I didn't see the part where they are making phone calls, but I guess I could see it happening in some instances. I did see something that said they were employing 32 grads. That seems a bit high. I only know of two people from my class that have jobs at the law college, but I know they hire some grads who have experience in the clinics to help supervise in the clinics. Oh well.

[Rahviveh]

Is there any indication the employment component was changed to only include JD required jobs?

I don't know, but Bama is 21, and that's going to trick a lot of east coasters into moving down to Tuscaloosa

So Bama is the new ASU

[Gunnar Stahl]

Is there any indication the employment component was changed to only include JD required jobs?

I don't know, but Bama is 21, and that's going to trick a lot of east coasters into moving down to Tuscaloosa

So Bama is the new ASU

DROVES I SAY

[rad lulz]

what was the biggest drop? lewis and clark @ 22?

FML

If you were going to L&C and paying real $ for it, you're probably already screwed

[manofjustice]

Is there any indication the employment component was changed to only include JD required jobs?

"Placement success was calculated by assigning various weights to the number of grads employed in 22 of these different types of post-J.D. jobs and durations.

Full weight was given for graduates who had a full-time job lasting at least a year where bar passage was required or a J.D. degree was an advantage.

Less weight went to full-time, long-term jobs that were professional or nonprofessional and did not require bar passage, to pursuit of an additional advanced degree, and to positions whose start dates were deferred. The lowest weight applied to jobs categorized as both part-time and short-term.

All these weighted figures were then divided by the total number of 2011 J.D. graduates and were used in the ranking formula only and are not published." http://www.usnews.com/education/best-gr ... ngs?page=2

[John_rizzy_rawls]

Oh yea. 5 point bump in the Law School Transparency employment score right off the bat for that.

At least they're making an effort to improve the culture and inclusiveness of their school. Law school is hard and competitive enough; I don't want to go somewhere where I don't enjoy it.

You're not gonna enjoy it.

I'm pretty sure I will. I get that law school isn't for everyone but people who I trust have been telling me my whole life I'm meant for this field. I love to argue and debate and I'm pretty well spoken.

[Rory19]

what was the biggest drop? lewis and clark @ 22?

FML

If you were going to L&C and paying real $ for it, you're probably already screwed

No, I was only accepted with nearly a full ride and given my ties to the area was contemplating taking it.

[Gunnar Stahl]

I'm pretty sure I will. I get that law school isn't for everyone but people who I trust have been telling me my whole life I'm meant for this field. I love to argue and debate and I'm pretty well spoken.

you were born and bred for success and achievement

[IAFG]

what was the biggest drop? lewis and clark @ 22?

FML

If you were going to L&C and paying real $ for it, you're probably already screwed

No, I was only accepted with nearly a full ride and given my ties to the area was contemplating taking it.

L&C grads are first in line for all 12 of the entry level atty jobs available in Oregon each year.

[Rahviveh]

Is there any indication the employment component was changed to only include JD required jobs?

"Placement success was calculated by assigning various weights to the number of grads employed in 22 of these different types of post-J.D. jobs and durations.

Full weight was given for graduates who had a full-time job lasting at least a year where bar passage was required or a J.D. degree was an advantage.

Less weight went to full-time, long-term jobs that were professional or nonprofessional and did not require bar passage, to pursuit of an additional advanced degree, and to positions whose start dates were deferred. The lowest weight applied to jobs categorized as both part-time and short-term.

All these weighted figures were then divided by the total number of 2011 J.D. graduates and were used in the ranking formula only and are not published." http://www.usnews.com/education/best-gr ... ngs?page=2

so school funded jobs got full weight?

Its a start I guess...

[justonemoregame]

WHICH ONE OF THE LURKERS IS NONE OTHER THAN BOB MORSE?

[manofjustice]

Is there any indication the employment component was changed to only include JD required jobs?

"Placement success was calculated by assigning various weights to the number of grads employed in 22 of these different types of post-J.D. jobs and durations.

Full weight was given for graduates who had a full-time job lasting at least a year where bar passage was required or a J.D. degree was an advantage.

Less weight went to full-time, long-term jobs that were professional or nonprofessional and did not require bar passage, to pursuit of an additional advanced degree, and to positions whose start dates were deferred. The lowest weight applied to jobs categorized as both part-time and short-term.

All these weighted figures were then divided by the total number of 2011 J.D. graduates and were used in the ranking formula only and are not published." http://www.usnews.com/education/best-gr ... ngs?page=2

so school funded jobs got full weight?

Its a start I guess...

At least school funded that is long-term, bar-required, full-time...it seems. It also seems the explanation of the methodology isn't complete.

[PennBull]

what about the new international environmental space law rankings

are those out too

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