5 PROS + 5 CONS of YOUR LAW SCHOOL Forum

[JustHawkin]

What a dumb loser/brilliant troll.

I searched through this thread to see if you posted pros and cons.

[TheSpanishMain]

What a dumb loser/brilliant troll.

I searched through this thread to see if you posted pros and cons.

Have not. Here's what I'd propose but not sure I know the place well enough yet. What do you think?

GULC

Pros:
1) DC. Lots of opportunities to intern during the school year, which, from what I understand, means you have a second chance at stuff that's really in demand over the summer.
2) Good professors, lots of electives. If you're interested in something, there's probably a class on it. Not sure how employable that is, but if you're trying to carve out a niche it's probably helpful.
3) So far, pretty chill classmates. Generally smart (with a few exceptions) and focused, but not douchey.
4) Excellent facilities for the most part. The gym is great.
5) Reasonable curve.

Cons:
1) Selective jobs (BL, FedGov, Clerkships) get iffy at median.
2) Expensive and unpredictable with scholarships although does have a solid LRAP if you are PI focused.
3) Graded LRW blows.
4) DC is a very in-demand market and the class size is absurdly huge.
5) Campus is in a not really dangerous but not really pleasant area of the city.

[JustHawkin]

Have not. Here's what I'd propose but not sure I know the place well enough yet. What do you think?

GULC

Pros:
1) DC. Lots of opportunities to intern during the school year, which, from what I understand, means you have a second chance at stuff that's really in demand over the summer.
2) Good professors, lots of electives. If you're interested in something, there's probably a class on it. Not sure how employable that is, but if you're trying to carve out a niche it's probably helpful.
3) So far, pretty chill classmates. Generally smart (with a few exceptions) and focused, but not douchey.
4) Excellent facilities for the most part. The gym is great.
5) Reasonable curve.

Cons:
1) Selective jobs (BL, FedGov, Clerkships) get iffy at median.
2) Expensive and unpredictable with scholarships although does have a solid LRAP if you are PI focused.
3) Graded LRW blows.
4) DC is a very in-demand market and the class size is absurdly huge.
5) Campus is in a not really dangerous but not really pleasant area of the city.

Concurring opinion: the bolded would take up three of the five cons.

[bjsesq]

Pros:
- awesome people
- football
- job/clerkship placement
- close to home

Cons:
- internet sucks
- five graded classes the first semester
- 2 year waiting list for lockers at the gym and no towel service
- hard to get around without a car

eta: t3

Everyone knows you are at Stanford.

[sublime]

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[beachbum]

Duke

I could discuss job placement or clinics or professors or student body, but I suspect Duke is fairly interchangeable with most of the rest of the T14 in these categories. So here's an attempt at being relatively Duke-specific:

Pro:
2) Basketball (and now football, too, kinda). I could write about the benefits of strong revenue sports in terms of campus environment, alumni network, and general quality of life, but we'd be here all day.


Con:
3) BBQ. Jesus, it's like they're intentionally screwing up a good thing. Good bbq sauce is not nor should ever be vinegar-based. Ever. Jesus. (But see hushpuppies, sweet tea).

These two are objectively wrong. Carolina BBQ is the best, and college sports are a fucking drain on the system.

I suppose I'd be a supporter of Carolina bbq had I never been to Tennessee, or Texas, or Missouri, or just about any state in the Deep South. Carolina bbq in a vacuum isn't terrible, it's just much worse than every other bbq. So I guess it isn't bad so much as it's horribly disappointing? Pair with a local beer and you have the saddest little dinner in the Mid-Atlantic.

[Kimikho]

Pros:
- awesome people
- football
- job/clerkship placement
- close to home

Cons:
- internet sucks
- five graded classes the first semester
- 2 year waiting list for lockers at the gym and no towel service
- hard to get around without a car

eta: t3

Everyone knows you are at Stanford.

Right? T3 with football as a pro?

Also LOL at the internet being shitty at stanford.

I know! They have no excuse!

[McAvoy]

I suppose I'd be a supporter of Carolina bbq had I never been to Tennessee, or Texas, or Missouri, or just about any state in the Deep South. Carolina bbq in a vacuum isn't terrible, it's just much worse than every other bbq. So I guess it isn't bad so much as it's horribly disappointing? Pair with a local beer and you have the saddest little dinner in the Mid-Atlantic.

Gonna take this opportunity to say it again: Texas bbq is fucking fantastic

[rahulg91]

Vandy

Cons:
2. Graded LRW is the worst
5. Graded LRW is the fucking worst

I cannot agree with this more.

If it's not clear to everyone:

Graded LRW is absolutely terrible.

Graded LRW is literally worse than ISIS

[McAvoy]

Vandy

Cons:
2. Graded LRW is the worst
5. Graded LRW is the fucking worst

I cannot agree with this more.

If it's not clear to everyone:

Graded LRW is absolutely terrible.

Graded LRW is literally worse than ISIS

this seems like a slight exaggeration

don't get me wrong, graded LRW sucks; however, if it were ungraded, I would be putting in zero effort. As this shit is actually kind of important for real life, or so I've been led to believe, I can get over it.

[phillywc]

this seems like a slight exaggeration

don't get me wrong, graded LRW sucks; however, if it were ungraded, I would be putting in zero effort. As this shit is actually kind of important for real life, or so I've been led to believe, I can get over it.

Posts people with graded LRW make to justify their graded LRW.

[Kimikho]

this seems like a slight exaggeration

don't get me wrong, graded LRW sucks; however, if it were ungraded, I would be putting in zero effort. As this shit is actually kind of important for real life, or so I've been led to believe, I can get over it.

Posts people with graded LRW make to justify their graded LRW.

Yeah even half graded Lrw is terrible.
But I think part of the terribleness comes from knowing other people get to take it p/f

[NYCFAN1]

Vandy

Cons:
2. Graded LRW is the worst
5. Graded LRW is the fucking worst

I cannot agree with this more.

If it's not clear to everyone:

Graded LRW is absolutely terrible.

Graded LRW is literally worse than ISIS

this seems like a slight exaggeration

don't get me wrong, graded LRW sucks; however, if it were ungraded, I would be putting in zero effort. As this shit is actually kind of important for real life, or so I've been led to believe, I can get over it.

Assuming you go to a halfway decent school (do low tier schools have ungraded LRW?), a good chunk of people are still gunning for honors. I only know a few putting in the absolute bare minimum to pass, or at least they claim to be

[jk148706]

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[jk148706]

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[phillywc]

Assuming you go to a halfway decent school (do low tier schools have ungraded LRW?), a good chunk of people are still gunning for honors. I only know a few putting in the absolute bare minimum to pass, or at least they claim to be

I go to NYU. Entirely Pass/Fail, no honors.

[McAvoy]

Most t14s have non graded LRW. Doesn't seem to affect those schools' ability to place grads/produce successful lawyers.

Obviously. I was not trying to "justify" graded LRW or claim anything contrary to this.

I only said that, for me personally, I can get over having it be graded as (1) I am a very lazy person who will almost never put in work beyond what is required, and (2), as someone who wants to be a litigator, it is not a bad thing to be forced to put effort into formally developing LRW skills. Yes, it sucks, but I'm not positive if it sucks any more or less than my doctrinals.

[shifty_eyed]

Most t14s have non graded LRW. Doesn't seem to affect those schools' ability to place grads/produce successful lawyers.

Obviously. I was not trying to "justify" graded LRW or claim anything contrary to this.

I only said that, for me personally, I can get over having it be graded as (1) I am a very lazy person who will almost never put in work beyond what is required, and (2), as someone who wants to be a litigator, it is not a bad thing to be forced to put effort into formally developing LRW skills. Yes, it sucks, but I'm not positive if it sucks any more or less than my doctrinals.

It does.

[ThinkNegative]

Pros:
- awesome people
- football
- job/clerkship placement
- close to home

Cons:
- internet sucks
- five graded classes the first semester
- 2 year waiting list for lockers at the gym and no towel service
- hard to get around without a car

eta: t3

Everyone knows you are at Stanford.

Right? T3 with football as a pro?

Also LOL at the internet being shitty at stanford.

Does the Internet suck? Not that I've noticed.

It did suck in my room for a year, and I thought it was just typical — then I started asking around and learned it was just me. Complained to IT and within one day they had installed a wireless access point IN MY HOUSE. Now it's speedy.

[RCSOB657]

Duke

I could discuss job placement or clinics or professors or student body, but I suspect Duke is fairly interchangeable with most of the rest of the T14 in these categories. So here's an attempt at being relatively Duke-specific:

Pro:
2) Basketball (and now football, too, kinda). I could write about the benefits of strong revenue sports in terms of campus environment, alumni network, and general quality of life, but we'd be here all day.


Con:
3) BBQ. Jesus, it's like they're intentionally screwing up a good thing. Good bbq sauce is not nor should ever be vinegar-based. Ever. Jesus. (But see hushpuppies, sweet tea).

These two are objectively wrong. Carolina BBQ is the best, and college sports are a fucking drain on the system.

I suppose I'd be a supporter of Carolina bbq had I never been to Tennessee, or Texas, or Missouri, or just about any state in the Deep South. Carolina bbq in a vacuum isn't terrible, it's just much worse than every other bbq. So I guess it isn't bad so much as it's horribly disappointing? Pair with a local beer and you have the saddest little dinner in the Mid-Atlantic.

With much due respect, "rubs" are not BBQ. That's just "grilling out". If it isn't pork or it isn't mustard or vinegar based that isn't BBQ. That's foreign food. Next you're going to be telling us chili is always made with beans.

[rickgrimes69]

Duke

I could discuss job placement or clinics or professors or student body, but I suspect Duke is fairly interchangeable with most of the rest of the T14 in these categories. So here's an attempt at being relatively Duke-specific:

Pro:
2) Basketball (and now football, too, kinda). I could write about the benefits of strong revenue sports in terms of campus environment, alumni network, and general quality of life, but we'd be here all day.


Con:
3) BBQ. Jesus, it's like they're intentionally screwing up a good thing. Good bbq sauce is not nor should ever be vinegar-based. Ever. Jesus. (But see hushpuppies, sweet tea).

These two are objectively wrong. Carolina BBQ is the best, and college sports are a fucking drain on the system.

I suppose I'd be a supporter of Carolina bbq had I never been to Tennessee, or Texas, or Missouri, or just about any state in the Deep South. Carolina bbq in a vacuum isn't terrible, it's just much worse than every other bbq. So I guess it isn't bad so much as it's horribly disappointing? Pair with a local beer and you have the saddest little dinner in the Mid-Atlantic.

Dude Carolina BBQ is the tits. It's a helluva lot better than that dry rub bullshit they try to pass off as BBQ in Memphis or that cloyingly sweet stuff from KC.

[Jack_Sheridan]

Pros: I admire the level of versatility (understanding of the law is helpful in a variety of careers, from mediation to politics.) here!
Cons: Highly competitive.. If you are not ambitious/passionate about this thing, then it is often difficult to survive here :/ Keep up the pace. Sometimes ( just sometimes) I feel sad about my sleepless nights

[Scotusnerd]

Dude Carolina BBQ is the tits. It's a helluva lot better than that dry rub bullshit they try to pass off as BBQ in Memphis or that cloyingly sweet stuff from KC.

By Carolina BBQ I assume you mean SOUTH Carolina BBQ. Vinegar by itself sucks. Mustard/vinegar BBQ is in a class of its own, and if you haven't tried it, you need to.

[McAvoy]

LOL at actually needing BBQ sauce. There's your first problem.

[FSK]

LOL at actually needing BBQ sauce. There's your first problem.

Different strokes for different cuts of meat.