Life as a unicorn Forum

[rayiner]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgSJUzYCGtc

Buffalo, what are your thoughts on this video.

Holy shit. Don't just listen to the words, but pay attention to their intonation, word choice, facial expressions, and vocal pauses. The first guy uses the word "nice" which is something I found myself compulsively using in big law (along with "interesting") to mean "not terrible." The woman uses the word "fulfilling" in the same way. The second guy has this huge pause as he's thinking of how to phrase things, and hedges with "on the balance."

And then the woman died of a heart-related issue.

It was placental abruption.

[seespotrun]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgSJUzYCGtc

Buffalo, what are your thoughts on this video.

Robert C. Davis is wearing a wig, right?

[IAFG]

It was placental abruption.

"The official cause of death was an enlarged heart with additional conditions being a placental abruption."

[TheSpanishMain]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgSJUzYCGtc

Buffalo, what are your thoughts on this video.

Robert C. Davis is wearing a wig, right?

But what a wig!

[seespotrun]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgSJUzYCGtc

Buffalo, what are your thoughts on this video.

Robert C. Davis is wearing a wig, right?

But what a wig!

I WANT TO RUN MY HANDS THROUGH IT

[IAFG]

they made him wear it to cover up the bruise where a partner (non-equity) threw a stapler at him

[Theopliske8711]

It was placental abruption.

"The official cause of death was an enlarged heart with additional conditions being a placental abruption."

JFC, I thought you guys were making some kind of dark joke at first.

[seespotrun]

they made him wear it to cover up the bruise where a partner (non-equity) threw a stapler at him

Must have caused permanent scarring.

http://www.dlapiper.com/en/us/people/d/davis-robert-c/

[BaiAilian2013]

I don't think anyone can seriously argue that being in Biglaw isn't objectively terrible. Every poster here says it, ATL says it, and nearly every Business Insider/Forbes/US News study lists them among the least happy. Hell, even the smallest bit of logic tells you that to do doc review and other monkey work for 160k, when applicants are desperate for work, proves that Biglaw is terrible. The only good thing is the money.

Why would it matter if it's objectively terrible? Surely the subjective assessment of the individual is what matters. I love my job; you don't need to love my job. (So much the better for me if you don't, really.) My point, and I don't know why I chose to make it by quibbling with your diction, is that it's just not accurate to say that every biglaw job sucks and everyone hates it or is "meh" about it at best. Maybe 0Ls lie to themselves about the state of affairs, but we shouldn't lie back.

[bearsfan23]

I still can't get over the fact OP said Yale isn't worth $100k of debt. That is the dumbest thing I have ever read on TLS.

[jbagelboy]

I wanted to come in and say something positive about law school, but as I was typing I realized nah, fuck law school ;/ regardless of what law school you go to. just don't think going to a particular school (i.e. top schools, yale) is necessarily going to make everything different.

[beepboopbeep]

I wanted to come in and say something positive about law school, but as I was typing I realized nah, fuck law school ;/ regardless of what law school you go to. just don't think going to a particular school (i.e. top schools, yale) is necessarily going to make everything different.

I can't help but think this is connected to your exam post. I genuinely like law school and say that even as I'm cramming out a brief due 8am tomorrow. It's not for everyone. But it's not the steaming cesspool of intellectual jerkoffery that TLS makes it out to be, at least not objectively.

Sorry to interrupt. Not sure either my post or jbagel's have much to do with the thread overall. Carry on.

[IAFG]

I don't think anyone can seriously argue that being in Biglaw isn't objectively terrible. Every poster here says it, ATL says it, and nearly every Business Insider/Forbes/US News study lists them among the least happy. Hell, even the smallest bit of logic tells you that to do doc review and other monkey work for 160k, when applicants are desperate for work, proves that Biglaw is terrible. The only good thing is the money.

Why would it matter if it's objectively terrible? Surely the subjective assessment of the individual is what matters. I love my job; you don't need to love my job. (So much the better for me if you don't, really.) My point, and I don't know why I chose to make it by quibbling with your diction, is that it's just not accurate to say that every biglaw job sucks and everyone hates it or is "meh" about it at best. Maybe 0Ls lie to themselves about the state of affairs, but we shouldn't lie back.

I would absolutely do it all over again (at the same school and price). I just think there are a lot of things 0Ls should think about differently.

[rayiner]

I had a total blast in law school, and I was a miserable gunner who lived in the journal office.

[bk1]

who lived in the journal office.

Ewwwww.

[jbagelboy]

I wanted to come in and say something positive about law school, but as I was typing I realized nah, fuck law school ;/ regardless of what law school you go to. just don't think going to a particular school (i.e. top schools, yale) is necessarily going to make everything different.

I can't help but think this is connected to your exam post. I genuinely like law school and say that even as I'm cramming out a brief due 8am tomorrow. It's not for everyone. But it's not the steaming cesspool of intellectual jerkoffery that TLS makes it out to be, at least not objectively.

Sorry to interrupt. Not sure either my post or jbagel's have much to do with the thread overall. Carry on.

FWIW I totally agree. I don't mind law school. I was typing up some pretty good arguments in its' favor. Finals just blow.

[beepboopbeep]

I wanted to come in and say something positive about law school, but as I was typing I realized nah, fuck law school ;/ regardless of what law school you go to. just don't think going to a particular school (i.e. top schools, yale) is necessarily going to make everything different.

I can't help but think this is connected to your exam post. I genuinely like law school and say that even as I'm cramming out a brief due 8am tomorrow. It's not for everyone. But it's not the steaming cesspool of intellectual jerkoffery that TLS makes it out to be, at least not objectively.

Sorry to interrupt. Not sure either my post or jbagel's have much to do with the thread overall. Carry on.

FWIW I totally agree. I don't mind law school. I was typing up some pretty good arguments in its' favor. Finals just blow.

Fair 'nuff. If it makes you feel better, we still have a whole nother month.

[IAFG]

who lived in the journal office.

Ewwwww.

You think that's gross, you don't know how hard I was trying to be in the j office for my water breaking.

Didn't pull it off tho.

[bk1]

You think that's gross, you don't know how hard I was trying to be in the j office for my water breaking.

Didn't pull it off tho.

different kind of gross (the former being more that ray is one of those people).

[IAFG]

You think that's gross, you don't know how hard I was trying to be in the j office for my water breaking.

Didn't pull it off tho.

different kind of gross (the former being more that ray is one of those people).

Idk when we lived in the j office it was mostly DF, pizza, beer and intense TLSing.

[rayiner]

You think that's gross, you don't know how hard I was trying to be in the j office for my water breaking.

Didn't pull it off tho.

different kind of gross (the former being more that ray is one of those people).

Idk when we lived in the j office it was mostly DF, pizza, beer and intense TLSing.

I did some studying, but it was mostly us driving away the LR people by being loud and obnoxious. Now that I think about it. Its the warmest room in the LS...

[09042014]

I was the one who sprayed silly string on the ceiling

[billables247]

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[JusticeHarlan]

I have a question and I would love to hear your collective thoughts:

I am currently working in consulting, and at times it really sucks. While we don't work as much as some BigLaw firms, we do regularly clock 60+ hours in office/working from home, and the pay and salary progression is significantly lower than BigLaw (think around 70k and maxing out at around 130K by the time you're 35 unless you make the equivalent of partner). The similarity of complaints, whether it is about stress or a lack of work-life balance, between consulting and BigLaw is staggering.

For those of you who have work experience in similarly demanding careers (i.e. consulting, banking), did you ever feel that BigLaw is as draining and unbearable as everyone makes it out to be? Does having a certain professional maturity help?

This guy did consulting before law school. Read the thread for his thoughts.

[MrSebastian]

I have a question and I would love to hear your collective thoughts:

I am currently working in consulting, and at times it really sucks. While we don't work as much as some BigLaw firms, we do regularly clock 60+ hours in office/working from home, and the pay and salary progression is significantly lower than BigLaw (think around 70k and maxing out at around 130K by the time you're 35 unless you make the equivalent of partner). The similarity of complaints, whether it is about stress or a lack of work-life balance, between consulting and BigLaw is staggering.

For those of you who have work experience in similarly demanding careers (i.e. consulting, banking), did you ever feel that BigLaw is as draining and unbearable as everyone makes it out to be? Does having a certain professional maturity help?

Speaking as a 0L here, but I'd also love to hear some positive comments about Big Law. My brother is in consulting and works 60hr weeks, and although the pay scale isn't great considering the hours worked, it improves a lot once you obtain an MBA and starts to look more like big law pay (salaries w/ and w/out MBA: http://managementconsulted.com/consulti ... -and-more/)

That being said, the pay is still higher in big law. But a crucial difference is that after a few years most big law associates are bounced whereas in consulting layoffs/high attrition are quite rare. I have no idea how difficult it is to obtain an equity stake in a consulting firm or how far you can generally advance, but I imagine that it's easier than the big law partner track.