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I think you are exactly right. Even if you assume that anyone can get loans for full COA, you still need cash up front to move, feed yourself, etc. until the loans disburse. If you come from a family that lives hand-to-mouth, even $500 to $1000 in upfront costs could be a dealbreaker.Kohinoor wrote:Was just thinking to myself that the expense of law school may be a factor in keeping minorities out of the highest rungs. Where others can better afford the loans or have parents pay their way and thus are free to go to the absolute best schools that accept them, URMs may more often have to opt for the best school that full rides them. Thoughts?
Wow I love the stereotypical thoughts here. And I wonder what the problem with society is today.Kohinoor wrote: URMs may more often have to opt for the best school that full rides them.
I was going to post ads to be an escor-wait a second...SoberHobo wrote:I'll probably end up posting ads for escorts on cragslist, then just mug the girls. I figure that will cover at least half my tuition.
I think that's somewhat racist. There are poor white people and wealthy black people. Obama's kids are a bit better off than some poor white kid in a trailer park in alabama. Even jewish people like me can come from dirt poor backgrounds, as my family does - why should you put spike lee's kid in a poorer bracket than me. Also, with immigrants fpr example, latino immigrants, even if rich, get viewed in the way you say, while bosnian or russian immigrants who are dirt poor but happen to be white - their families are better able to put them through college?Kohinoor wrote:Was just thinking to myself that the expense of law school may be a factor in keeping minorities out of the highest rungs. Where others can better afford the loans or have parents pay their way and thus are free to go to the absolute best schools that accept them, URMs may more often have to opt for the best school that full rides them. Thoughts?
It's stereotypical to acknowledge that minorities tend to come from a lower socioeconomic bracket?casper13 wrote:Wow I love the stereotypical thoughts here. And I wonder what the problem with society is today.Kohinoor wrote: URMs may more often have to opt for the best school that full rides them.
You and casper are crazy.ruleser wrote:I think that's somewhat racist. There are poor white people and wealthy black people. Obama's kids are a bit better off than some poor white kid in a trailer park in alabama. Even jewish people like me can come from dirt poor backgrounds, as my family does - why should you put spike lee's kid in a poorer bracket than me. Also, with immigrants fpr example, latino immigrants, even if rich, get viewed in the way you say, while bosnian or russian immigrants who are dirt poor but happen to be white - their families are better able to put them through college?Kohinoor wrote:Was just thinking to myself that the expense of law school may be a factor in keeping minorities out of the highest rungs. Where others can better afford the loans or have parents pay their way and thus are free to go to the absolute best schools that accept them, URMs may more often have to opt for the best school that full rides them. Thoughts?
Ditch the sterotypes based on race and have this discussion inclusively
because I never said that all blacks are poor or all whites are wealthy. An inclusive discussion that ignored race and paid attention solely to socioeconomic status would be pointless since my question was essentially 'Does socioeconomic status play a role in the underrepresentation of minorities at the highest tiers of legal education?'You should have been in Toronto last nite. Your ship would have come in!MrSoOoFLy wrote:Gonna summer in Cali as a member of the paparazzi and hope to get assaulted by someone who's loaded.
Story time.harryis44 wrote:You should have been in Toronto last nite. Your ship would have come in!MrSoOoFLy wrote:Gonna summer in Cali as a member of the paparazzi and hope to get assaulted by someone who's loaded.
dude, what happened in TO last night?MrSoOoFLy wrote:Story time.harryis44 wrote:You should have been in Toronto last nite. Your ship would have come in!MrSoOoFLy wrote:Gonna summer in Cali as a member of the paparazzi and hope to get assaulted by someone who's loaded.
Perez claims he got jacked up by Will.I.Am. and his posse.papercranes wrote:dude, what happened in TO last night?MrSoOoFLy wrote:Story time.harryis44 wrote:You should have been in Toronto last nite. Your ship would have come in!MrSoOoFLy wrote:Gonna summer in Cali as a member of the paparazzi and hope to get assaulted by someone who's loaded.
harryis44 wrote:papercranes wrote:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/nat ... le1191853/
Idk about this. I think far more URMs are uninformed about the benefits of attending a T25/T14/T6 versus a cheaper and lower-ranked school. And if they dont know the benefits of a better ranked school, I'd imagine they would be much more likely to settle for a lower ranked school with a significant scholarship or in-state tuition versus a much more expensive option at sticker. I have friends of friends who have done exactly this--gone with the cheaper option at a much, much lower ranked school just because of cost.jewtangclan03 wrote:And since a URM will get into a better school than a non-URM with the same numbers, I actually think the opposite is true-- the URM will decide to go to the best school he gets into bc it will be easier to justify taking out full loans for that t25 education.