AA Harvard Law Applicants (LSAT scores) Forum

Wvwv123 · Post by **Wvwv123** » Thu Jan 07, 2016 1:23 am

vorely wrote:That was where I am as well (HYP, 167 from October, 1st take) and I am also unsure on how tomorrow will go. I decided to sit for it and to see how it will go. If you will be sitting for it as well, best of luck to you!

So how did you do? Were you happy with your December '15 score?

Wvwv123 · Post by **Wvwv123** » Thu Jan 07, 2016 1:24 am

MixtapeFellThrough wrote:I'm debating whether or not to withdraw from the December LSAT. I currently have a 167 / 3.64 (from HYP, still unclear whether or not that actually helps) and I think I could hit over a 168, but I honestly have no idea where I would score. I was PT-ing between 168 and 173 before the Oct. test and I felt more prepared for that one than I do now. I'd probably forge ahead and hope for the best were this not my third sitting.

Would it make sense to apply to H now and send an updated score if I do well on the February test?

So how did you do? Were you happy with your December '15 score?

ltowns1 · Post by **ltowns1** » Thu Jan 07, 2016 10:27 am

TBH, I would go ahead an apply if I were you guys. Excellent LSAT scores.

Wvwv123 · Post by **Wvwv123** » Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:05 pm

I just got a notification saying: "Report closed by A. Nony Mouse for: "Re: AA Harvard Law Applicants (LSAT scores)"". I'm wondering if I did anything wrong.

ltowns1 · Post by **ltowns1** » Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:36 pm

You're good if the report closed. Don't know why that happened tho??

Wvwv123 · Post by **Wvwv123** » Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:38 pm

ltowns1 wrote:You're good if the report closed. Don't know why that happened tho??

Is getting a report closed something bad? I don't even know what it means.

ltowns1 · Post by **ltowns1** » Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:41 pm

It's when somone reports something that they think the moderators should look at. (Ex. Bad language, insults,trolling, LSAT violation, etc.)

Wvwv123 · Post by **Wvwv123** » Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:49 pm

ltowns1 wrote:It's when somone reports something that they think the moderators should look at. (Ex. Bad language, insults,trolling, LSAT violation, etc.)

Wow, okay. Well, it must have something to do with my asking vorely or MixtapeFellThrough how they did on their December '15 LSATs. I asked because both of their initial LSAT scores was a 167, which is what I have, and I was curious to see if they've managed to improve their scores in any meaningful way, given that I'm currently thinking about retaking it myself, but am hesitant because of my suspicion that people generally don't improve that much on the 2nd or 3rd try. If either of them took offense at what I asked, though, I apologize, and they should feel free to not answer what I asked them.

ltowns1 · Post by **ltowns1** » Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:53 pm

Wvwv123 wrote:
ltowns1 wrote:It's when somone reports something that they think the moderators should look at. (Ex. Bad language, insults,trolling, LSAT violation, etc.)
Wow, okay. Well, it must have something to do with my asking vorely or MixtapeFellThrough how they did on their December '15 LSATs. I asked because both of their initial LSAT scores was a 167, which is what I have, and I was curious to see if they've managed to improve their scores in any meaningful way, given that I'm currently thinking about retaking it myself, but am hesitant because of my suspicion that people generally don't improve that much on the 2nd or 3rd try. If either of them took offense at what I asked, though, I apologize, and they should feel free to not answer what I asked them.

I don't think so, all you asked was about their LSAT score, that's not enough for someone to report you. Maybe somebody just made a mistake..which is plausible. You def can improve your score from all that I've heard and seen from people around TLS.

MixtapeFellThrough · Post by **MixtapeFellThrough** » Thu Jan 07, 2016 4:17 pm

Wvwv123 wrote:
ltowns1 wrote:It's when somone reports something that they think the moderators should look at. (Ex. Bad language, insults,trolling, LSAT violation, etc.)
Wow, okay. Well, it must have something to do with my asking vorely or MixtapeFellThrough how they did on their December '15 LSATs. I asked because both of their initial LSAT scores was a 167, which is what I have, and I was curious to see if they've managed to improve their scores in any meaningful way, given that I'm currently thinking about retaking it myself, but am hesitant because of my suspicion that people generally don't improve that much on the 2nd or 3rd try. If either of them took offense at what I asked, though, I apologize, and they should feel free to not answer what I asked them.

I definitely didn't take any offense to it. I hope I didn't accidentally report you or something by mistake.

Anyway, I didn't end up retaking it, unfortunately. Late November / early December was too hectic for me to put an appropriate amount of study time. I'm just pushing through with my scores for all schools to which I'm applying, save Y, and going to see if I can crack a 170 in Feb. to see if submitting an app there is worth it. They say there's no difference between submitting an app in early November and late February; I'll trust their sincerity. Either way, I definitely think you should retake if you feel you can do better. ltowns1 is right, you can absolutely improve, especially if your LG score wasn't perfect or close to it.

Wvwv123 · Post by **Wvwv123** » Thu Jan 07, 2016 4:23 pm

MixtapeFellThrough wrote:
Wvwv123 wrote:
ltowns1 wrote:It's when somone reports something that they think the moderators should look at. (Ex. Bad language, insults,trolling, LSAT violation, etc.)
Wow, okay. Well, it must have something to do with my asking vorely or MixtapeFellThrough how they did on their December '15 LSATs. I asked because both of their initial LSAT scores was a 167, which is what I have, and I was curious to see if they've managed to improve their scores in any meaningful way, given that I'm currently thinking about retaking it myself, but am hesitant because of my suspicion that people generally don't improve that much on the 2nd or 3rd try. If either of them took offense at what I asked, though, I apologize, and they should feel free to not answer what I asked them.
I definitely didn't take any offense to it. I hope I didn't accidentally report you or something by mistake.

Anyway, I didn't end up retaking it, unfortunately. Late November / early December was too hectic for me to put an appropriate amount of study time. I'm just pushing through with my scores for all schools to which I'm applying, save Y, and going to see if I can crack a 170 in Feb. to see if submitting an app there is worth it. They say there's no difference between submitting an app in early November and late February; I'll trust their sincerity. Either way, I definitely think you should retake if you feel you can do better. ltowns1 is right, you can absolutely improve, especially if your LG score wasn't perfect or close to it.

Yeah, I actually got 6 wrong on the LG, so I may well be able to improve. But I think I'm going to just apply anyway and, if I'm not happy with the results, I'll just retake and apply next cycle. But good luck on your retake.

ltowns1 · Post by **ltowns1** » Thu Jan 07, 2016 4:34 pm

I just want a 165...that's all I want lol!

vorely · Post by **vorely** » Fri Jan 08, 2016 9:53 am

Wvwv123 wrote:
ltowns1 wrote:You're good if the report closed. Don't know why that happened tho??
Is getting a report closed something bad? I don't even know what it means.

I ended up not improving - got tripped up by the 3rd logic game, but I did apply anyways. Here's hoping that wasn't a mistake

ltowns1 · Post by **ltowns1** » Fri Jan 08, 2016 10:28 am

vorely wrote:
Wvwv123 wrote:
ltowns1 wrote:You're good if the report closed. Don't know why that happened tho??
Is getting a report closed something bad? I don't even know what it means.

I ended up not improving - got tripped up by the 3rd logic game, but I did apply anyways. Here's hoping that wasn't a mistake

Sorry you didn't improve vorely, that LSAT Score is tremdous however. I would say that you're getting into the territory where it's pretty hard to make further improvements if you're in that range. Not sure if you said what score you got WVwv. While you can still improve, It's harder simply because you're not making many errors in the first place, and there is not that many major problem areas for you. To be clear, I'm no expert and I'm still in the LSAT struggle now, but what I can say is that I've been here for a minute. What I've noticed is that the higher you are in terms of score, the more you really have to identify every mistake you make. It's a very acute process. It certainly is possible tho.

BTW:Vorely, there is one explanation already up for game three if you would like a link to it I can provide it.

180kickflip · Post by **180kickflip** » Wed Feb 17, 2016 9:10 am

fliptrip · Post by **fliptrip** » Wed Feb 17, 2016 3:44 pm

This screams mylsn project and I love mylsn projects!

Usual caveats apply...I don't believe lawschoolnumbers captures URM/AA applicants as well as it does non-URM/AA applicants.

But here's what we can tell from what we have available:

For H:
AA applicants below a 3.5 GPA: 15% success rate
" at or above 3.5: 59% success rate
AA applicants below a 165 LSAT: 30% success rate
" at or above 165: 56% success rate

Applicants with a GPA above 3.5 and LSAT above 165: 69% success rate.

And looking at the data, there were some weird WLs/rejections..there was a 3.5/173 AA male who was rejected and a 3.8/167 who was waitlisted. Assuming these are accurately reported, this likely has to do with factors outside of paper qualifications, like a poor interview, or prior experience with H that wasn't so pleasant.

So, the conventional wisdom seems to hold. If you have a GPA above 3.5 you're in the game and if you can pair that with a 165+ LSAT, you're in pretty good shape. If you're above 3.75 and have a 165+ LSAT, you're looking really really good.

mastermoo · Post by **mastermoo** » Wed Feb 17, 2016 4:40 pm

GPA > 75th and 25th > LSAT. got admitted last week (still hasnt sunk in) and plan on matriculating. As much as I envy the sun at Stanford, Ive got friends in Boston....and its Harvard..haha

fliptrip · Post by **fliptrip** » Wed Feb 17, 2016 6:23 pm

mastermoo wrote:GPA > 75th and LSAT is 169. got admitted last week (still hasnt sunk in) and plan on matriculating. As much as I envy the sun at Stanford, Ive got friends in Boston....and its Harvard..haha

With a GPA that high, you sure you're not going to get into Yale? More good news could be coming...

ltowns1 · Post by **ltowns1** » Wed Feb 17, 2016 8:37 pm

Thanks for keeping the post alive guys, I think it could be useful. I have a 3.8, still studying for the LSAT.

ltowns1 · Post by **ltowns1** » Wed Feb 17, 2016 8:41 pm

mastermoo wrote:GPA > 75th and LSAT is 169. got admitted last week (still hasnt sunk in) and plan on matriculating. As much as I envy the sun at Stanford, Ive got friends in Boston....and its Harvard..haha

Congratulations

lawyerinlouboutins · Post by **lawyerinlouboutins** » Thu Feb 18, 2016 2:43 pm

mastermoo wrote:GPA > 75th and LSAT is 169. got admitted last week (still hasnt sunk in) and plan on matriculating. As much as I envy the sun at Stanford, Ive got friends in Boston....and its Harvard..haha

Woo! Congrats. Yale not on your radar?

mastermoo · Post by **mastermoo** » Thu Feb 18, 2016 5:21 pm

lawyerinlouboutins wrote:
mastermoo wrote:GPA > 75th and 25th > LSAT. got admitted last week (still hasnt sunk in) and plan on matriculating. As much as I envy the sun at Stanford, Ive got friends in Boston....and its Harvard..haha
Woo! Congrats. Yale not on your radar?

Not really, I honestly really value warm weather and would normally choose Stanford without hesitation. but friends and family in Boston tips the scales toward Harvard. Wouldn't mind a semester abroad at Berkeley/Stanford though...

Budfox55 · Post by **Budfox55** » Thu Feb 18, 2016 5:25 pm

mastermoo wrote:GPA > 75th and 25th > LSAT. got admitted last week (still hasnt sunk in) and plan on matriculating. As much as I envy the sun at Stanford, Ive got friends in Boston....and its Harvard..haha

I would 100% take Stanford over Harvard. Dude...cali.