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3.88 152 (retaking September 2014 lsat)

Post by itskevin » Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:46 am

Hi everyone,

I'm kind of new at this, but I made a list of places where I've applied/intend on applying to. I'm 20, have pretty good softs/WE/resume, hispanic (latin), and from SFL.
**PT'ing in the low 160s right now, will be retaking the LSAT in 9 days.

WashUSTL-- (applied, selected for Interview in person next week)
GULC--(ED).. (applied)
American
Boalt (applied)
Duke
UM
UF
FSU
FIU

Let me know :)

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Re: 3.88 152 (retaking September 2014 lsat)

Post by Winston1984 » Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:55 am

Impossible to know without a new LSAT. Come back after that.

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Re: 3.88 152 (retaking September 2014 lsat)

Post by itskevin » Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:59 am

Winston1984 wrote:Impossible to know without a new LSAT. Come back after that.

Will do definitely.

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Re: 3.88 152 (retaking September 2014 lsat)

Post by gnomgnomuch » Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:21 am

On the off chance that this isn't a troll, don't apply until you've got a 168+ on the LSAT, and that should REALLY be a 170+.

3.88/170 get's nice scholarships at lower t-14 and prob a 1/3rd of t-6, possibly with some money as well.

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Re: 3.88 152 (retaking September 2014 lsat)

Post by pancakes3 » Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:27 am

Withdraw your apps immediately. 3.88 GPA is going to be wasted on a low 160's. I'm in between classes and should be reading for Torts but I'm sure someone like Brut can/will come along and give you the full rundown of why you're going in severely underinformed and doing yourself a major disservice by applying at all with a 158.

Also, unless you're specifically Mexican or Puerto Rican, you're not going to get an admissions boost.

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Re: 3.88 152 (retaking September 2014 lsat)

Post by Wingtip88 » Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:59 am

You should gun for upper 160's at a minimum.

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Re: 3.88 152 (retaking September 2014 lsat)

Post by sesto elemento » Thu Sep 18, 2014 11:18 am

What type of Hispanic?

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Post by itskevin » Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:35 pm

pancakes3 wrote:Withdraw your apps immediately. 3.88 GPA is going to be wasted on a low 160's. I'm in between classes and should be reading for Torts but I'm sure someone like Brut can/will come along and give you the full rundown of why you're going in severely underinformed and doing yourself a major disservice by applying at all with a 158.
gnomgnomuch wrote:On the off chance that this isn't a troll, don't apply until you've got a 168+ on the LSAT, and that should REALLY be a 170+.

3.88/170 get's nice scholarships at lower t-14 and prob a 1/3rd of t-6, possibly with some money as well.
Also, unless you're specifically Mexican or Puerto Rican, you're not going to get an admissions boost.

I wouldn't say withdraw them all at once. Don't schools look at the profile holistically?

It's not a troll.

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Post by itskevin » Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:37 pm

sesto elemento wrote:What type of Hispanic?

Cuban.

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Re: 3.88 152 (retaking September 2014 lsat)

Post by BigZuck » Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:39 pm

itskevin wrote:
pancakes3 wrote:Withdraw your apps immediately. 3.88 GPA is going to be wasted on a low 160's. I'm in between classes and should be reading for Torts but I'm sure someone like Brut can/will come along and give you the full rundown of why you're going in severely underinformed and doing yourself a major disservice by applying at all with a 158.
gnomgnomuch wrote:On the off chance that this isn't a troll, don't apply until you've got a 168+ on the LSAT, and that should REALLY be a 170+.

3.88/170 get's nice scholarships at lower t-14 and prob a 1/3rd of t-6, possibly with some money as well.
Also, unless you're specifically Mexican or Puerto Rican, you're not going to get an admissions boost.

I wouldn't say withdraw them all at once. Don't schools look at the profile holistically?

It's not a troll.
Of course you wouldn't say that, you're the one who applied!

Basically schools only care about GPA/LSAT and your LSAT has likely sunk you at places like Duke. I wouldn't withdraw them, but I would ask that they not consider your application until your LSAT score comes back. Also, I wouldn't apply anywhere else until your score comes back. Also, take it a 3rd time if you don't a crore into the 170s. Lets do everything we can to get you into those T14s with large scholarships.

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Post by Rigo » Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:40 pm

I'm more worried about you actually doing better on the LSATS and then getting stuck paying sticker at Georgetown after they accept you ED.
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Post by BigZuck » Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:42 pm

Dirigo wrote:I'm more worried about you actually do better on the LSATS and then getting stuck paying sticker at Georgetown after they accept you ED.
Oh, whoa, didn't see that

Yeah, definitely switch that to regular decision and if they won't let you, then withdraw your application

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Post by itskevin » Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:44 pm

Georgetown wouldn't offer $$ to ED'ers? I'm not planning to apply to other schools until I receive my September score. I put my ED application with Georgetown on hold (they have that option) until that score comes in.

I made a note on the addendum for Boalt, specifically about waiting to receive this score before they make a decision.

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Re: 3.88 152 (retaking September 2014 lsat)

Post by hairbear7 » Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:47 pm

itskevin wrote:Georgetown wouldn't offer $$ to ED'ers?
Why would they? You would be locked into attending there and they would not need to entice you into attending. From what I've read, Georgetown is also notorious for being stingy with money.

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Post by Rigo » Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:49 pm

itskevin wrote:Georgetown wouldn't offer $$ to ED'ers?
Georgetown barely offers money to RD'ers with great stats.

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hairbear7 wrote:
itskevin wrote:Georgetown wouldn't offer $$ to ED'ers?
Why would they? You would be locked into attending there and they would not need to entice you into attending. From what I've read, Georgetown is also notorious for being stingy with money.
Good point, didn't know that about the school. By any means, does it make it easier to get accepted?

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Post by Rigo » Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:52 pm

itskevin wrote:
hairbear7 wrote:
itskevin wrote:Georgetown wouldn't offer $$ to ED'ers?
Why would they? You would be locked into attending there and they would not need to entice you into attending. From what I've read, Georgetown is also notorious for being stingy with money.
Good point, didn't know that about the school. By any means, does it make it easier to get accepted?
Is your family wealthy and willing to foot your ~$250,000 COA?

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Post by itskevin » Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:54 pm

Dirigo wrote:
itskevin wrote:
hairbear7 wrote:
itskevin wrote:Georgetown wouldn't offer $$ to ED'ers?
Why would they? You would be locked into attending there and they would not need to entice you into attending. From what I've read, Georgetown is also notorious for being stingy with money.
Good point, didn't know that about the school. By any means, does it make it easier to get accepted?
Is your family wealthy and willing to foot your ~$250,000 COA?
Not at all.

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Post by Rigo » Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:57 pm

itskevin wrote:
Dirigo wrote:
Is your family wealthy and willing to foot your ~$250,000 COA?
Not at all.
Then follow BigZuck's advice: say you made a mistake and switch your app to RD. If they don't let you, withdraw your ED app.

I think you very well could be accepted RD with a low 160's LSAT and your stellar GPA. But give yourself the opportunity to decline their offer.

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Post by itskevin » Thu Sep 18, 2014 1:20 pm

Just spoke with admissions at GULC, they don't mind the switch to RD. Will be shooting them an e-mail now.
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itskevin wrote:Just spoke to with admissions at GULC, they don't mind the switch to RD. Will be shooting them an e-mail now.
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Post by jw316 » Thu Sep 18, 2014 1:32 pm

Dirigo wrote:
itskevin wrote:Just spoke to with admissions at GULC, they don't mind the switch to RD. Will be shooting them an e-mail now.
Woohoo! Just made my day knowing that TLS saved another applicant from financial ruin.
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Post by itskevin » Thu Sep 18, 2014 1:33 pm

On another note, I was also wondering if schools that select you for an interview are more likely to accept you. I know not many schools offer them, but there's still a few out there that do.

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itskevin wrote:On another note, I was also wondering if schools that select you for an interview are more likely to accept you. I know not many schools offer them, but there's still a few out there that do.
In general it's probably a better sign than not getting an interview at all. Although sometimes they do it for people who are borderline candidates.

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Post by gnomgnomuch » Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:03 pm

itskevin wrote:
pancakes3 wrote:Withdraw your apps immediately. 3.88 GPA is going to be wasted on a low 160's. I'm in between classes and should be reading for Torts but I'm sure someone like Brut can/will come along and give you the full rundown of why you're going in severely underinformed and doing yourself a major disservice by applying at all with a 158.
gnomgnomuch wrote:On the off chance that this isn't a troll, don't apply until you've got a 168+ on the LSAT, and that should REALLY be a 170+.

3.88/170 get's nice scholarships at lower t-14 and prob a 1/3rd of t-6, possibly with some money as well.
Also, unless you're specifically Mexican or Puerto Rican, you're not going to get an admissions boost.

I wouldn't say withdraw them all at once. Don't schools look at the profile holistically?

It's not a troll.
"Holistic" admissions are for those who are on the cusp of getting in with just slightly under par numbers but who have something going for them that lets them stand out.

Other things that can help are awards like Fulbright, Rhodes, Marshall, Guggenheim.
PHD's/Masters are helpful, though they don't factor in those GPA's.
Same with work experience that is meaningful... like McDonalds not so much, writing for the NYT could be helpful.

Everything I just listed is secondary to LSAT/GPA.
Those two things combined are about 93% of the admissions game.

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