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Re: michigan 2010 applicants

Post by rondemarino » Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:57 pm

logging in 100 times a day for a month? Damn.....

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Re: michigan 2010 applicants

Post by Michiganapp2010 » Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:59 pm

rondemarino wrote:logging in 100 times a day for a month? Damn.....
It wasn't 100 times a day. It was just multiple times per day. :lol:

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Post by Unitas » Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:16 pm

Zearfoss wrote:Hello all--

Oy. I feel terrible about all the apparent anxiety I unintentionally engineered. In my telephone call with the original poster, I did indeed ask him to post some information, but I'm afraid a lot got lost in the translation. I hope this format works a little better, and that I am able to clear up some confusion.

First, and most importantly: I am not mad about people trying to log in! We are not tracking people. We are not penalizing people. Nothing untoward along those lines is occurring.

Now, some background: yesterday we received an email from an applicant telling us that he had tried to log into the site and had been successful for 20 minutes. He tried again, though, and could not log in. Was he, he wanted to know, admitted or not? well--he wasn't admitted. So if he had been able to log in, as he said, that would have indicated a serious problem with our site. I asked one member of my staff to get the specific details from him, and another member to confab with the IT staff and see what the story was. As a result of all this investigating, we learned that the candidate in question had actually tried to log in an extraordinary number of times--many, many times a day, every day for more than a month. We also learned that while a number of people had tried to log in, he had done so about 100 times more than anyone else--and that only a handful of people had tried to log in a number of times that struck us really unusual. But we didn't go piecing together who all those people were, nor did we have any interest in contacting them--we only wanted to respond to the original candidate. In any event, the upshot of the investigation was the IT staff's firm conviction that the site was working exactly as it should, and people who weren't admitted would not be able to log on.

So I called the candidate, and explained what I had learned. I also explained that the site only refreshed once a day, so multiple daily log-in attempts weren't worthwhile. And then I explained why we have the system we do (about which I can post later), and that while we don't mind people trying to log in, we just have an old-fashioned hope that they will learn of their admission through a big exciting packet in the mail, rather than a website--but that I understand there's a generation gap there. And finally, I explained how this year's new phenomenon of checking has led to some unforeseen consequences: namely, people calling us to say, "I logged in; am I admitted?," and relatedly, emailing us a lot to ask when they'll get their status check email. Both of those, particularly in a year where we're seeing an increase in applicants, have been absolutely crushing to our workload; we're actually processing apps more slowly, and making decisions more slowly, because of the increased work in these other areas.

And finally--I asked him to explain all this on TLS, which is where he told me he'd gotten the log-in idea in the first place. And so here we are.

This is my first time ever posting on TLS or similar sites, and I am hopeful that we can clear this up and I can get back to reading my apps and leaving all of you in peace. I'm off now to drive my children to various evening activities, but I'll check back later to see if other questions need answering!

(I have been advised to tell you all that I won't be monitoring my TLS message inbox. In other words, you'll be free of me after this.)
+1 Michigan. I am impressed.
Veritas wrote:
Helmholtz wrote:Dean Zearfoss, thanks so much for the post clearing this up. You taking the time out of your day to post on here is immensely appreciated and helpfulness is something I've come to expect from your office.
+1 and my LSAC # is L000 and I <3 Mich with an undying love
I hope that isn't your real number.....

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Re: michigan 2010 applicants

Post by Veritas » Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:17 pm

Kakarot wrote:
Veritas wrote:
Helmholtz wrote:Dean Zearfoss, thanks so much for the post clearing this up. You taking the time out of your day to post on here is immensely appreciated and helpfulness is something I've come to expect from your office.
+1 and my LSAC # is L000 and I <3 Mich with an undying love
I hope that isn't your real number.....
srsly....? are you really asking that?

yes, I have over 12k posts on TLS and I'm stupid enough to post my real LSAC account number.

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Re: michigan 2010 applicants

Post by Unitas » Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:20 pm

Veritas wrote:
Kakarot wrote:
Veritas wrote:
Helmholtz wrote:Dean Zearfoss, thanks so much for the post clearing this up. You taking the time out of your day to post on here is immensely appreciated and helpfulness is something I've come to expect from your office.
+1 and my LSAC # is L000 and I <3 Mich with an undying love
I hope that isn't your real number.....
srsly....? are you really asking that?

yes, I have over 12k posts on TLS and I'm stupid enough to post my real LSAC account number.
I didn't realize that was you and didn't pay much attention through my laughing over the last few pages of this thread... New avatar right?

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Re: michigan 2010 applicants

Post by Veritas » Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:22 pm

Kakarot wrote:
I didn't realize that was you and didn't pay much attention through my laughing over the last few pages of this thread... New avatar right?
now I feel like a jerk, sry that was unnecessary.

I did get a new tar, which now makes me feel extremely juvenile.

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Re: michigan 2010 applicants

Post by MC Southstar » Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:24 pm

Veritas wrote:
Kakarot wrote:
I didn't realize that was you and didn't pay much attention through my laughing over the last few pages of this thread... New avatar right?
now I feel like a jerk, sry that was unnecessary.

I did get a new tar, which now makes me feel extremely juvenile.
Makes you seem like an angry person.

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Re: michigan 2010 applicants

Post by Veritas » Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:26 pm

shadowfrost000 wrote:
Veritas wrote:
Kakarot wrote:
I didn't realize that was you and didn't pay much attention through my laughing over the last few pages of this thread... New avatar right?
now I feel like a jerk, sry that was unnecessary.

I did get a new tar, which now makes me feel extremely juvenile.
Makes you seem like an angry person.
I know, it's made me feel angry all day. I think I need to change it.

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Re: michigan 2010 applicants

Post by Bronte » Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:27 pm

Veritas wrote: I know, it's made me feel angry all day. I think I need to change it.
Maybe you should change it to a heart with a big M in the middle.

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Re: michigan 2010 applicants

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Re: michigan 2010 applicants

Post by tintin » Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:39 pm

maggiebre wrote:Good God. I leave TLS for 3 hours, and all hell seems to have broken loose.
+1, i should just pull up a chair and grab the popcorn :lol:

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Re: michigan 2010 applicants

Post by Unitas » Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:49 pm

tintin wrote:
maggiebre wrote:Good God. I leave TLS for 3 hours, and all hell seems to have broken loose.
+1, i should just pull up a chair and grab the popcorn :lol:
Pretty sure once Dean Zearfoss posted the hell was contained. Still fun to go through and read it all....

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Re: michigan 2010 applicants

Post by awesomepossum » Fri Dec 11, 2009 9:27 pm

HAHAHAHAHAHA....good job Matlock.




Dear Dean Z...



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Re: michigan 2010 applicants

Post by Emma. » Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:02 pm

Zearfoss wrote:Hello all--

Oy. I feel terrible about all the apparent anxiety I unintentionally engineered. In my telephone call with the original poster, I did indeed ask him to post some information, but I'm afraid a lot got lost in the translation. I hope this format works a little better, and that I am able to clear up some confusion.

First, and most importantly: I am not mad about people trying to log in! We are not tracking people. We are not penalizing people. Nothing untoward along those lines is occurring.

Now, some background: yesterday we received an email from an applicant telling us that he had tried to log into the site and had been successful for 20 minutes. He tried again, though, and could not log in. Was he, he wanted to know, admitted or not? well--he wasn't admitted. So if he had been able to log in, as he said, that would have indicated a serious problem with our site. I asked one member of my staff to get the specific details from him, and another member to confab with the IT staff and see what the story was. As a result of all this investigating, we learned that the candidate in question had actually tried to log in an extraordinary number of times--many, many times a day, every day for more than a month. We also learned that while a number of people had tried to log in, he had done so about 100 times more than anyone else--and that only a handful of people had tried to log in a number of times that struck us really unusual. But we didn't go piecing together who all those people were, nor did we have any interest in contacting them--we only wanted to respond to the original candidate. In any event, the upshot of the investigation was the IT staff's firm conviction that the site was working exactly as it should, and people who weren't admitted would not be able to log on.

So I called the candidate, and explained what I had learned. I also explained that the site only refreshed once a day, so multiple daily log-in attempts weren't worthwhile. And then I explained why we have the system we do (about which I can post later), and that while we don't mind people trying to log in, we just have an old-fashioned hope that they will learn of their admission through a big exciting packet in the mail, rather than a website--but that I understand there's a generation gap there. And finally, I explained how this year's new phenomenon of checking has led to some unforeseen consequences: namely, people calling us to say, "I logged in; am I admitted?," and relatedly, emailing us a lot to ask when they'll get their status check email. Both of those, particularly in a year where we're seeing an increase in applicants, have been absolutely crushing to our workload; we're actually processing apps more slowly, and making decisions more slowly, because of the increased work in these other areas.

And finally--I asked him to explain all this on TLS, which is where he told me he'd gotten the log-in idea in the first place. And so here we are.

This is my first time ever posting on TLS or similar sites, and I am hopeful that we can clear this up and I can get back to reading my apps and leaving all of you in peace. I'm off now to drive my children to various evening activities, but I'll check back later to see if other questions need answering!

(I have been advised to tell you all that I won't be monitoring my TLS message inbox. In other words, you'll be free of me after this.)
I wasn't sure it was possible, but this post made me even more excited about Mich. <33333333333333333

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Re: michigan 2010 applicants

Post by thalassocrat » Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:05 pm

emrose wrote:
Zearfoss wrote:Hello all--

Oy. I feel terrible about all the apparent anxiety I unintentionally engineered. In my telephone call with the original poster, I did indeed ask him to post some information, but I'm afraid a lot got lost in the translation. I hope this format works a little better, and that I am able to clear up some confusion.

First, and most importantly: I am not mad about people trying to log in! We are not tracking people. We are not penalizing people. Nothing untoward along those lines is occurring.

Now, some background: yesterday we received an email from an applicant telling us that he had tried to log into the site and had been successful for 20 minutes. He tried again, though, and could not log in. Was he, he wanted to know, admitted or not? well--he wasn't admitted. So if he had been able to log in, as he said, that would have indicated a serious problem with our site. I asked one member of my staff to get the specific details from him, and another member to confab with the IT staff and see what the story was. As a result of all this investigating, we learned that the candidate in question had actually tried to log in an extraordinary number of times--many, many times a day, every day for more than a month. We also learned that while a number of people had tried to log in, he had done so about 100 times more than anyone else--and that only a handful of people had tried to log in a number of times that struck us really unusual. But we didn't go piecing together who all those people were, nor did we have any interest in contacting them--we only wanted to respond to the original candidate. In any event, the upshot of the investigation was the IT staff's firm conviction that the site was working exactly as it should, and people who weren't admitted would not be able to log on.

So I called the candidate, and explained what I had learned. I also explained that the site only refreshed once a day, so multiple daily log-in attempts weren't worthwhile. And then I explained why we have the system we do (about which I can post later), and that while we don't mind people trying to log in, we just have an old-fashioned hope that they will learn of their admission through a big exciting packet in the mail, rather than a website--but that I understand there's a generation gap there. And finally, I explained how this year's new phenomenon of checking has led to some unforeseen consequences: namely, people calling us to say, "I logged in; am I admitted?," and relatedly, emailing us a lot to ask when they'll get their status check email. Both of those, particularly in a year where we're seeing an increase in applicants, have been absolutely crushing to our workload; we're actually processing apps more slowly, and making decisions more slowly, because of the increased work in these other areas.

And finally--I asked him to explain all this on TLS, which is where he told me he'd gotten the log-in idea in the first place. And so here we are.

This is my first time ever posting on TLS or similar sites, and I am hopeful that we can clear this up and I can get back to reading my apps and leaving all of you in peace. I'm off now to drive my children to various evening activities, but I'll check back later to see if other questions need answering!

(I have been advised to tell you all that I won't be monitoring my TLS message inbox. In other words, you'll be free of me after this.)
I wasn't sure it was possible, but this post made me even more excited about Mich. <33333333333333333
+1

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Re: michigan 2010 applicants

Post by APimpNamedSlickback » Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:07 pm

emrose wrote:
Zearfoss wrote:Hello all--

Oy. I feel terrible about all the apparent anxiety I unintentionally engineered. In my telephone call with the original poster, I did indeed ask him to post some information, but I'm afraid a lot got lost in the translation. I hope this format works a little better, and that I am able to clear up some confusion.

First, and most importantly: I am not mad about people trying to log in! We are not tracking people. We are not penalizing people. Nothing untoward along those lines is occurring.

Now, some background: yesterday we received an email from an applicant telling us that he had tried to log into the site and had been successful for 20 minutes. He tried again, though, and could not log in. Was he, he wanted to know, admitted or not? well--he wasn't admitted. So if he had been able to log in, as he said, that would have indicated a serious problem with our site. I asked one member of my staff to get the specific details from him, and another member to confab with the IT staff and see what the story was. As a result of all this investigating, we learned that the candidate in question had actually tried to log in an extraordinary number of times--many, many times a day, every day for more than a month. We also learned that while a number of people had tried to log in, he had done so about 100 times more than anyone else--and that only a handful of people had tried to log in a number of times that struck us really unusual. But we didn't go piecing together who all those people were, nor did we have any interest in contacting them--we only wanted to respond to the original candidate. In any event, the upshot of the investigation was the IT staff's firm conviction that the site was working exactly as it should, and people who weren't admitted would not be able to log on.

So I called the candidate, and explained what I had learned. I also explained that the site only refreshed once a day, so multiple daily log-in attempts weren't worthwhile. And then I explained why we have the system we do (about which I can post later), and that while we don't mind people trying to log in, we just have an old-fashioned hope that they will learn of their admission through a big exciting packet in the mail, rather than a website--but that I understand there's a generation gap there. And finally, I explained how this year's new phenomenon of checking has led to some unforeseen consequences: namely, people calling us to say, "I logged in; am I admitted?," and relatedly, emailing us a lot to ask when they'll get their status check email. Both of those, particularly in a year where we're seeing an increase in applicants, have been absolutely crushing to our workload; we're actually processing apps more slowly, and making decisions more slowly, because of the increased work in these other areas.

And finally--I asked him to explain all this on TLS, which is where he told me he'd gotten the log-in idea in the first place. And so here we are.

This is my first time ever posting on TLS or similar sites, and I am hopeful that we can clear this up and I can get back to reading my apps and leaving all of you in peace. I'm off now to drive my children to various evening activities, but I'll check back later to see if other questions need answering!

(I have been advised to tell you all that I won't be monitoring my TLS message inbox. In other words, you'll be free of me after this.)
I wasn't sure it was possible, but this post made me even more excited about Mich. <33333333333333333
I agree!
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Re: michigan 2010 applicants

Post by NancyBotwin » Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:42 pm

jayzon wrote:
thalassocrat wrote:
emrose wrote:
Zearfoss wrote:Hello all--

Oy. I feel terrible about all the apparent anxiety I unintentionally engineered. In my telephone call with the original poster, I did indeed ask him to post some information, but I'm afraid a lot got lost in the translation. I hope this format works a little better, and that I am able to clear up some confusion.

First, and most importantly: I am not mad about people trying to log in! We are not tracking people. We are not penalizing people. Nothing untoward along those lines is occurring.

Now, some background: yesterday we received an email from an applicant telling us that he had tried to log into the site and had been successful for 20 minutes. He tried again, though, and could not log in. Was he, he wanted to know, admitted or not? well--he wasn't admitted. So if he had been able to log in, as he said, that would have indicated a serious problem with our site. I asked one member of my staff to get the specific details from him, and another member to confab with the IT staff and see what the story was. As a result of all this investigating, we learned that the candidate in question had actually tried to log in an extraordinary number of times--many, many times a day, every day for more than a month. We also learned that while a number of people had tried to log in, he had done so about 100 times more than anyone else--and that only a handful of people had tried to log in a number of times that struck us really unusual. But we didn't go piecing together who all those people were, nor did we have any interest in contacting them--we only wanted to respond to the original candidate. In any event, the upshot of the investigation was the IT staff's firm conviction that the site was working exactly as it should, and people who weren't admitted would not be able to log on.

So I called the candidate, and explained what I had learned. I also explained that the site only refreshed once a day, so multiple daily log-in attempts weren't worthwhile. And then I explained why we have the system we do (about which I can post later), and that while we don't mind people trying to log in, we just have an old-fashioned hope that they will learn of their admission through a big exciting packet in the mail, rather than a website--but that I understand there's a generation gap there. And finally, I explained how this year's new phenomenon of checking has led to some unforeseen consequences: namely, people calling us to say, "I logged in; am I admitted?," and relatedly, emailing us a lot to ask when they'll get their status check email. Both of those, particularly in a year where we're seeing an increase in applicants, have been absolutely crushing to our workload; we're actually processing apps more slowly, and making decisions more slowly, because of the increased work in these other areas.

And finally--I asked him to explain all this on TLS, which is where he told me he'd gotten the log-in idea in the first place. And so here we are.

This is my first time ever posting on TLS or similar sites, and I am hopeful that we can clear this up and I can get back to reading my apps and leaving all of you in peace. I'm off now to drive my children to various evening activities, but I'll check back later to see if other questions need answering!

(I have been advised to tell you all that I won't be monitoring my TLS message inbox. In other words, you'll be free of me after this.)
I wasn't sure it was possible, but this post made me even more excited about Mich. <33333333333333333
+1
+2. I am even more excited to hope against all odds.
+eleventy billion! <3

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Re: michigan 2010 applicants

Post by 06072010 » Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:50 pm

^^ gunner

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PKSebben wrote:^^ gunner
:lol: I was actually referring to the hope against all odds part. I don't stand a chance, unfortunately. :oops:

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Re: michigan 2010 applicants

Post by 02082010 » Sat Dec 12, 2009 12:04 am

Wow.

Dean Z,

Did you happen to browse through this thread and see all the times I pleaded for you to admit me and said nothing but great things about Michigan?!?! Did you??? PLEASE ADMIT ME!!!!

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Post by ankit » Sat Dec 12, 2009 12:07 am

Just woke up in this part of the world and Wow!!.....that was some day!!

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Post by 06072010 » Sat Dec 12, 2009 2:36 am

Why limit yourself to just Michigan 0L? I'm a 3L, and I've drank the Michigan kool-aid.

GO BLUE!

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Post by Split5 » Sat Dec 12, 2009 3:02 am

Zearfoss wrote:Hello all--

Oy. I feel terrible about all the apparent anxiety I unintentionally engineered. In my telephone call with the original poster, I did indeed ask him to post some information, but I'm afraid a lot got lost in the translation. I hope this format works a little better, and that I am able to clear up some confusion.

First, and most importantly: I am not mad about people trying to log in! We are not tracking people. We are not penalizing people. Nothing untoward along those lines is occurring.

Now, some background: yesterday we received an email from an applicant telling us that he had tried to log into the site and had been successful for 20 minutes. He tried again, though, and could not log in. Was he, he wanted to know, admitted or not? well--he wasn't admitted. So if he had been able to log in, as he said, that would have indicated a serious problem with our site. I asked one member of my staff to get the specific details from him, and another member to confab with the IT staff and see what the story was. As a result of all this investigating, we learned that the candidate in question had actually tried to log in an extraordinary number of times--many, many times a day, every day for more than a month. We also learned that while a number of people had tried to log in, he had done so about 100 times more than anyone else--and that only a handful of people had tried to log in a number of times that struck us really unusual. But we didn't go piecing together who all those people were, nor did we have any interest in contacting them--we only wanted to respond to the original candidate. In any event, the upshot of the investigation was the IT staff's firm conviction that the site was working exactly as it should, and people who weren't admitted would not be able to log on.

So I called the candidate, and explained what I had learned. I also explained that the site only refreshed once a day, so multiple daily log-in attempts weren't worthwhile. And then I explained why we have the system we do (about which I can post later), and that while we don't mind people trying to log in, we just have an old-fashioned hope that they will learn of their admission through a big exciting packet in the mail, rather than a website--but that I understand there's a generation gap there. And finally, I explained how this year's new phenomenon of checking has led to some unforeseen consequences: namely, people calling us to say, "I logged in; am I admitted?," and relatedly, emailing us a lot to ask when they'll get their status check email. Both of those, particularly in a year where we're seeing an increase in applicants, have been absolutely crushing to our workload; we're actually processing apps more slowly, and making decisions more slowly, because of the increased work in these other areas.

And finally--I asked him to explain all this on TLS, which is where he told me he'd gotten the log-in idea in the first place. And so here we are.

This is my first time ever posting on TLS or similar sites, and I am hopeful that we can clear this up and I can get back to reading my apps and leaving all of you in peace. I'm off now to drive my children to various evening activities, but I'll check back later to see if other questions need answering!

(I have been advised to tell you all that I won't be monitoring my TLS message inbox. In other words, you'll be free of me after this.)
The site refreshes once a day...at what time?

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