Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

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Re: Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

Postby omninode » Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:19 pm

Can anyone comment on the effectiveness of negotiating between WUSTL, UIUC, and UMN? Are these schools typically competitive against one another? Thanks.

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Re: Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

Postby Dake! » Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:54 pm

punkyg0608 wrote:
Dake! wrote:Hope for all the negotiators:
Two successes...
$0 at a T-20, up to full tuition schol (sent two emails)
$10k per year, up to full tuition + stipend at a highly ranked school (negotiated with other schol offers + T3 acceptance)
It really does work!


Congrats, that is awesome!

What do you mean "sent two emails"? Meaning you sent another email after a rejection?


Oops...wasn't clear. For the T-20 school, I sent two "I am eligible for scholarships?" emails. The first reply was a no or a non-answers (I can't remember). The second one did not get an email reply but was followed up with a schol letter

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Re: Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

Postby OSUDEVIL » Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:02 pm

If it was a "No" in the first e-mail, how did you respond in the second one to get past that initial rejection?
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Re: Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

Postby splitbrain » Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:05 pm

OSUDEVIL wrote:If it was a "No" in the first e-mail, how did you respond in the second one to get past that initial rejection?


This. Also, how long did you wait?

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Re: Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

Postby kroakstool » Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:24 pm

Dake! wrote:
punkyg0608 wrote:
Dake! wrote:Hope for all the negotiators:
Two successes...
$0 at a T-20, up to full tuition schol (sent two emails)
$10k per year, up to full tuition + stipend at a highly ranked school (negotiated with other schol offers + T3 acceptance)
It really does work!


Congrats, that is awesome!

What do you mean "sent two emails"? Meaning you sent another email after a rejection?


Oops...wasn't clear. For the T-20 school, I sent two "I am eligible for scholarships?" emails. The first reply was a no or a non-answers (I can't remember). The second one did not get an email reply but was followed up with a schol letter


By T3 do you mean HYS?

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Re: Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

Postby gfj90 » Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:10 pm

So I have pretty much all of my decisions back and starting the negotation process. Unfortunatley, I am still waiting on scholarship information at a number of the schools. I have a few scholarship offers that I know will give me leverage, but I do not know when to begin the process with the schools who haven't made offers yet. The last thing I want to do is wait until the last minute to start negotiating, so I am wondering if it is alright to contact theses schools and see what's taking so long.

I know it is ok to contact schools who never made an offer, but I was accepted recently and it is clearly states that scholarship decisions would be made beginning in Febraury. Do I just need to be patient?

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Re: Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

Postby Dake! » Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:16 pm

kroakstool wrote:
Dake! wrote:
punkyg0608 wrote:
Dake! wrote:Hope for all the negotiators:
Two successes...
$0 at a T-20, up to full tuition schol (sent two emails)
$10k per year, up to full tuition + stipend at a highly ranked school (negotiated with other schol offers + T3 acceptance)
It really does work!


Congrats, that is awesome!

What do you mean "sent two emails"? Meaning you sent another email after a rejection?


Oops...wasn't clear. For the T-20 school, I sent two "I am eligible for scholarships?" emails. The first reply was a no or a non-answers (I can't remember). The second one did not get an email reply but was followed up with a schol letter


By T3 do you mean HYS?


Yep. And for the other questions, I just sent the second email, even though there wasn't a positive response at first :) I figured it couldn't hurt! it was a fairly long wait: probably a month between emails, and maybe 3 weeks after the 2nd email til letter. I have no idea what made them change their minds...! For the other school, turn around was a lot faster, under a week.

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Re: Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

Postby mcdeeremitch » Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:35 am

I have a little wired situation....I have two schools ranked very far apart that both gave me 12,500 a year ..can I use the higher ranked school to negotiate ore money for. The lower ranked school even though they both offered the same amount?

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Re: Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

Postby omninode » Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:45 am

mcdeeremitch wrote:I have a little wired situation....I have two schools ranked very far apart that both gave me 12,500 a year ..can I use the higher ranked school to negotiate ore money for. The lower ranked school even though they both offered the same amount?

Yes.

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Postby mcdeeremitch » Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:02 am

omninode wrote:
mcdeeremitch wrote:I have a little wired situation....I have two schools ranked very far apart that both gave me 12,500 a year ..can I use the higher ranked school to negotiate ore money for. The lower ranked school even though they both offered the same amount?

Yes.


Any advice on to word that in an email?

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Re: Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

Postby nyca » Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:36 am

Question about negotiating scholarships:

Many of you have said that you continued to negotiate scholarships until June. Obviously, one would have had to make a commitment to only one school by the point. Does that mean that in these cases, you had already committed to going to a given school, but continued to negotiate scholarship money? And only at that school?

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Re: Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

Postby btw384 » Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:30 pm

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Re: Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

Postby dreamflower » Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:16 pm

Are people emailing these requests or mailing them?

Also, do you send it to the dean of admissions?

Do you attach other scholarship offer to the original request or do you wait until this is requested?

THANK YOU!

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Re: Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

Postby kroakstool » Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:18 pm

dreamflower wrote:Are people emailing these requests or mailing them?

Also, do you send it to the dean of admissions?

Do you attach other scholarship offer to the original request or do you wait until this is requested?

THANK YOU!


I'm emailing mine to deans/assistant deans if I have their names. Otherwise I'm
just putting "admissions staff." And I'm not sending the offers unless they ask

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Re: Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

Postby mcdeeremitch » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:38 pm

Should you send schools copies of other schools scholarship letters or just tell them in the email and only send it if asked??

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Re: Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

Postby rwhyAn » Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:02 pm

mcdeeremitch wrote:Should you send schools copies of other schools scholarship letters or just tell them in the email and only send it if asked??


I actually just got my scholarship nearly doubled today, so it does really work. I sent the dean of admissions an e-mail expressing my interest, and I mentioned the other scholarships I was offered and the amount of each. When they responded, they asked for a copy of the other offers. It was then that I sent them a copy. Hope this helps.

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Re: Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

Postby punkyg0608 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:21 pm

How long would you recommend waiting for a response? I sent a letter over a week ago and haven't heard anything back from them yet, and I'm not sure what to do now.

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Postby mcdeeremitch » Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:31 pm

Just realized that some schools are closed today..so it gives me extra time to polish my letter....would anyone be interested in reviewing my letter in a PM??

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Re: Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

Postby ggibelli » Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:36 pm

mcdeeremitch wrote:Just realized that some schools are closed today..so it gives me extra time to polish my letter....would anyone be interested in reviewing my letter in a PM??


sure i've got some free time!

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Postby mcdeeremitch » Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:42 pm

ggibelli wrote:
mcdeeremitch wrote:Just realized that some schools are closed today..so it gives me extra time to polish my letter....would anyone be interested in reviewing my letter in a PM??


sure i've got some free time!


Pm'ed Thanks!

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Re: Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

Postby rwhyAn » Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:53 pm

punkyg0608 wrote:How long would you recommend waiting for a response? I sent a letter over a week ago and haven't heard anything back from them yet, and I'm not sure what to do now.


I can't say, as I only waited 5 days for a response. Within a day of my response, I was given the new offer. I would say maybe wait another week, and if you don't hear anything, send a polite reminder. That said, my numbers aren't stellar for the school which increased my scholly. I have an LSAT at their 75th percentile, but my GPA is well below their 25th percentile.

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Re: Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

Postby Sherlock1708 » Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:47 am

I am almost ready to send my negotiation letter to one of my top choices (which is Maine... I'm still waiting to hear back from many higher ranked schools but I really feel like Maine is a great fit for me). I just received a phone call from the Dean of Admissions. He left a message and asked where Maine was on my list and if I received my scholarship letter. I received $12,000 per year (I'm out of state, so this brings my tuition down to in-state at around $20,000). It is renewable 2nd and 3rd years as long as I maintain a 2.0.

Since the Dean called, should I call him back or e-mail him instead? It would be nice to talk with him on the phone, but I'm worried about a potentially awkward conversation when I ask for more money. Is it rude to e-mail him after he called and left a voice message asking me to call him back? Any words of wisdom would be much appreciated.

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Re: Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

Postby ggibelli » Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:52 am

Sherlock1708 wrote:I am almost ready to send my negotiation letter to one of my top choices (which is Maine... I'm still waiting to hear back from many higher ranked schools but I really feel like Maine is a great fit for me). I just received a phone call from the Dean of Admissions. He left a message and asked where Maine was on my list and if I received my scholarship letter. I received $12,000 per year (I'm out of state, so this brings my tuition down to in-state at around $20,000). It is renewable 2nd and 3rd years as long as I maintain a 2.0.

Since the Dean called, should I call him back or e-mail him instead? It would be nice to talk with him on the phone, but I'm worried about a potentially awkward conversation when I ask for more money. Is it rude to e-mail him after he called and left a voice message asking me to call him back? Any words of wisdom would be much appreciated.


I'd probably go with the phone call. It's much more personal and I feel like it gives you the best chance to get an increase

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Re: Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

Postby Sherlock1708 » Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:15 pm

ggibelli wrote:
Sherlock1708 wrote:I am almost ready to send my negotiation letter to one of my top choices (which is Maine... I'm still waiting to hear back from many higher ranked schools but I really feel like Maine is a great fit for me). I just received a phone call from the Dean of Admissions. He left a message and asked where Maine was on my list and if I received my scholarship letter. I received $12,000 per year (I'm out of state, so this brings my tuition down to in-state at around $20,000). It is renewable 2nd and 3rd years as long as I maintain a 2.0.

Since the Dean called, should I call him back or e-mail him instead? It would be nice to talk with him on the phone, but I'm worried about a potentially awkward conversation when I ask for more money. Is it rude to e-mail him after he called and left a voice message asking me to call him back? Any words of wisdom would be much appreciated.


I'd probably go with the phone call. It's much more personal and I feel like it gives you the best chance to get an increase


The Dean actually just e-mailed me, so I e-mailed him back with my request for an increased scholarship. Hopefully I'll have good news to report!




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