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What is your current application status?

Accepted OOS
75
38%
Accepted In State
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17%
Waitlisted OOS
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6%
Waitlisted In State
24
12%
Denied OOS
3
2%
Denied In State
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6%
Still Waiting OOS
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15%
Still Waiting In State
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6%
 
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blackmooncreeping wrote: I graduated in May but I'm having a slow day at work so I'll answer. I choose UT for a couple of reasons--

1) If you are an in-stater or an out-of-stater with good numbers UT provides an affordable (relatively) option, assuming some scholarship $, with a pretty good shot of landing big law. Especially big law in Houston/Dallas, if that's what you are shooting for.
2) I went to UT for undergrad and got to live in Austin for 4 years. I wanted 3 more.
3) No way in hell I was going to live somewhere where it snows.

I'm really happy I decided to stay in Austin instead of going to a t-14. I had way too much fun than a graduate student should have and managed to snag a job I really enjoy (so far). You could do a hell of a lot worse than going to UT.
rnoodles22 wrote:
So Blackmoon did a solid job, and I'd echo pretty much everything he said with two exceptions: 1) I didn't go to UT for UG (though I was in Texas) and 2) I have, obviously, not graduated or worked yet.

I personally chose UT for three reasons.
1) The in-state tuition (and OOS tuition exemptions) is really hard to pass up on when you know you want to work and live in Texas. I love it, I grew up here, I know I want to live here for a good chunk of my future, if not all of it. When I weighed all that at a pretty awesome cost (only like $33K without other schollys compared to $60/$70K+ at some other schools I was looking at), it was a no brainer for me.
2) Austin is a great city. I honestly think it's pretty under appreciated how great of a city it is. I've visited before, and now that I'm actually living here it's blown me away. In only about a month I'm honestly shocked at how great of a city this is. The food, the culture, the people, everything. So you can live in Ithaca or whatever (no disrespect to Cornell folk, cause it's a great school too!) or you can live in Austin. Not much of a decision for me there either.
3) It's really close to my family and my brother goes to UT for UG. This really makes me love the school more, so if you're like that also consider this when choosing where to go to school.


As far as how much I enjoy the school itself, take what I say with a grain of salt because I'm only just barely starting my fourth week (and only my 2nd complete week so far). A lot of people will tell you about how collegial UT is. LISTEN TO THEM BECAUSE MY GOD ARE THEY RIGHT. Sure there are some people I've seen that, honestly, I wouldn't say are easily approachable, but that's maybe like 2% (wow what an arbitrary number haha) of who I've met. Even then, they're nice people but not the kind of people I see myself clicking with. Everyone else though is awesome, friendly, helpful, you name it. I've met some upperclassmen and alumni who have been WAY MORE than helpful - one guy has especially been helpful and I like owe my sanity to this dude cause he's gone out of his way to help me out, give me advice, and calm some of the 1L anxiety. I'm sure this is true everywhere else too, but I didn't get these kinds of vibes at other schools I visited as much as I did from when I visited UT.

The professors I have are pretty sweet too.

Umm, the society stuff is pretty cool too and this is super unique to UT (as far as I know). I actually think this is one of the most helpful ways to get over the social anxiety some people might have in law school. I've become fairly close with most of my small society group, and especially close with some of them. Great people all around! We also have done a bunch of stuff from tailgates to dinner or bar events to flag football games to you name it, all to help everyone get comfortable with each other and the school environment. My mentor's awesome, too, just like all the other mentors. Just a nice way to get to know people. And for those of you who are worried about not being able to meet anyone else, don't worry about that! SERIOUSLY. You will NOT get through law school knowing only like 15 or 20 folks, unless, of course, that's what YOU WANT. You will get to know your small society section very well, your society sections well, and other sections here and there. Plus, you can always get involved in groups or other stuff and meet people from all walks of life in the law school.

I think this should help right now as a preliminary introduction to why I chose UT. There's obviously more that could be said, so keep shooting y'all. I'll be watching these boards. Until then, it's CivPro and ConLaw reading for me!
Hikkomorist wrote: I chose UT out of a desire to work in Texas and for financial reasons. I'm enjoying it about as much as I think I'd be capable of enjoying my 1L year anywhere else. I'm a really awkward person, but everyone has been really welcoming and helpful despite that. I don't really think that's something that should significantly influence one's decision, and it might be the same or similar at most other places, but it's a nice perk.
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Interested to see how this cycle and the future of UT admissions go since Dean Ingram moved to Cornell.

ED does not carry a boost at UT, so no point in applying ED unless you would likely get in RD w/o scholly. If you have a chance at a scholly, I would apply RD and ask them to reconsider based on offers from other schools (though I have heard that it only works minimally since it is Texas).
Out of state application is more of a competition than in state (due to matriculation quota) so lower numbers from out of state are likely a deny.

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lymenheimer wrote:Interested to see how this cycle and the future of UT admissions go since Dean Ingram moved to Cornell.

ED does not carry a boost at UT, so no point in applying ED unless you would likely get in RD w/o scholly. If you have a chance at a scholly, I would apply RD and ask them to reconsider based on offers from other schools (though I have heard that it only works minimally since it is Texas).
Out of state application is more of a competition than in state (due to matriculation quota) so lower numbers from out of state are likely a deny.
How do you know this? I'm International and would like to know where I stand in this regard.

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Harry_Pluxen wrote:
lymenheimer wrote:Interested to see how this cycle and the future of UT admissions go since Dean Ingram moved to Cornell.

ED does not carry a boost at UT, so no point in applying ED unless you would likely get in RD w/o scholly. If you have a chance at a scholly, I would apply RD and ask them to reconsider based on offers from other schools (though I have heard that it only works minimally since it is Texas).
Out of state application is more of a competition than in state (due to matriculation quota) so lower numbers from out of state are likely a deny.
How do you know this? I'm International and would like to know where I stand in this regard.
State law requires the school to matriculate only a certain percentage of out-of-state applicants. As a result, once they reach that threshold, they cant admit other folks.

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Post by lymenheimer » Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:28 am

emkay625 wrote:
Harry_Pluxen wrote:
lymenheimer wrote:Interested to see how this cycle and the future of UT admissions go since Dean Ingram moved to Cornell.

ED does not carry a boost at UT, so no point in applying ED unless you would likely get in RD w/o scholly. If you have a chance at a scholly, I would apply RD and ask them to reconsider based on offers from other schools (though I have heard that it only works minimally since it is Texas).
Out of state application is more of a competition than in state (due to matriculation quota) so lower numbers from out of state are likely a deny.
How do you know this? I'm International and would like to know where I stand in this regard.
State law requires the school to matriculate only a certain percentage of out-of-state applicants. As a result, once they reach that threshold, they cant admit other folks.
I spoke with the Dean. But pretty much the reason is what em said (admission --> matriculation prediction complications not considered). I think it's 65% of matriculants have to be in-state.

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emkay625 wrote:
Harry_Pluxen wrote:
lymenheimer wrote:Interested to see how this cycle and the future of UT admissions go since Dean Ingram moved to Cornell.

ED does not carry a boost at UT, so no point in applying ED unless you would likely get in RD w/o scholly. If you have a chance at a scholly, I would apply RD and ask them to reconsider based on offers from other schools (though I have heard that it only works minimally since it is Texas).
Out of state application is more of a competition than in state (due to matriculation quota) so lower numbers from out of state are likely a deny.
How do you know this? I'm International and would like to know where I stand in this regard.
State law requires the school to matriculate only a certain percentage of out-of-state applicants. As a result, once they reach that threshold, they cant admit other folks.
I'm aware of the 35% quote for OOS applicants, but I fail to see how that demonstrates that OOS applicants must be more competitive than Texas residents, assuming that you apply early enough.

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Harry_Pluxen wrote:
I'm aware of the 35% quote for OOS applicants, but I fail to see how that demonstrates that OOS applicants must be more competitive than Texas residents, assuming that you apply early enough.
It's not necessarily that OOS applicants must be more competitive, but that the admissions considerations, the whole process is more competitive for OOS applicants. And they may seem inseparable, but it's like the distinction between admits and matriculants.

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lymenheimer wrote:
Harry_Pluxen wrote:
I'm aware of the 35% quote for OOS applicants, but I fail to see how that demonstrates that OOS applicants must be more competitive than Texas residents, assuming that you apply early enough.
It's not necessarily that OOS applicants must be more competitive, but that the admissions considerations, the whole process is more competitive for OOS applicants. And they may seem inseparable, but it's like the distinction between admits and matriculants.
I think OOS'ers have a better opportunity to stand out and wow the ad-comms with their interest in Texas law. From what I have read on the Texas website and gathered from the admissions office over the phone, being an OOS'er is no more or else competitive. Aside from often getting a prompt to write a "Why Texas Law" essay after your file goes complete there doesn't appear to be any substantial difference in how applicants are considered if they are OOS. I want to stress that this all dependent on there being enough OOS seats remaining in that 35% quota... Obviously if that quota is hit, then an OOS applicant becomes much less attractive to admit, if it is even possible to.

How does this parallel admits vs matriculants?

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Harry_Pluxen wrote:
lymenheimer wrote:
Harry_Pluxen wrote:
I'm aware of the 35% quote for OOS applicants, but I fail to see how that demonstrates that OOS applicants must be more competitive than Texas residents, assuming that you apply early enough.
It's not necessarily that OOS applicants must be more competitive, but that the admissions considerations, the whole process is more competitive for OOS applicants. And they may seem inseparable, but it's like the distinction between admits and matriculants.
I think OOS'ers have a better opportunity to stand out and wow the ad-comms with their interest in Texas law. From what I have read on the Texas website and gathered from the admissions office over the phone, being an OOS'er is no more or else competitive. Aside from often getting a prompt to write a "Why Texas Law" essay after your file goes complete there doesn't appear to be any substantial difference in how applicants are considered if they are OOS. I want to stress that this all dependent on there being enough OOS seats remaining in that 35% quota... Obviously if that quota is hit, then an OOS applicant becomes much less attractive to admit, if it is even possible to.

How does this parallel admits vs matriculants?
lymenheimer wrote: I spoke with the Dean.
I didn't say they paralleled. I was just saying that there is a distinction between the two. But I wasn't trying to argue with you. Feel free to stand out and wow the adcomm with your interest in Texas law, but if your numbers aren't there, then it is going to be a harder sell than for someone who does live there. PM me if you wanna discuss it further.

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I'm pretty out of touch with admissions and stuff at this point but I'm a 3L at UT happy to answer questions in this thread or via PM

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Even more out of touch with admissions since I graduated in May but I will also answer questions y'all have.

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Glad to finally see this thread started. I was admitted last year and deferred so I'll be starting 2016 with you guys. OOS and loved visiting so if I can help with anything I'll definitely try.

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Good luck! If I had stayed I would've been a 3L when you all are 1Ls. That's weird.

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MtnGinger wrote:Glad to finally see this thread started. I was admitted last year and deferred so I'll be starting 2016 with you guys. OOS and loved visiting so if I can help with anything I'll definitely try.
We were discussing how much more competitive admission is for OOS applicants (in large part because of the 35% quota). Would you mind sharing your admission story with us? Were you asked to write a "Why Texas Law Essay?" for example.

Feel free to PM me if you would prefer to not post it ITT.

I'm an Int'l applicant and am curious to see where I stand.

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Post by rnoodles » Sat Sep 12, 2015 4:08 pm

I'm only 3 weeks in. I am not a great person to go to about the culture of the school or professors I have or what works or doesn't work because I'm, honestly, just as lost as every other 1L is/is but isn't admitting it. BUT i can help with the admissions questions, timelines, what worked for me and didn't work to get in, PS/addendum stuff, how to get $$$, etc. I'm in-state btw, so I cant really help with the OOS-specific questions, unfortunately.

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PatriotP74 wrote:Good to see the interest, and thanks to all the current/former students willing to help everyone here out! Also good to see that many are waiting for an LSAT score still, I'm a re-taker from a few years ago, also in state. Will take the October test and keep prepping for December in case I'm not happy with the score.



Any of the current students heard anything on the 2015 entering class medians/class sizes? One person said they heard 270 on the class size which would be a substantial drop in students.
rnoodles22 wrote:I'm only 3 weeks in. I am not a great person to go to about the culture of the school or professors I have or what works or doesn't work because I'm, honestly, just as lost as every other 1L is/is but isn't admitting it. BUT i can help with the admissions questions, timelines, what worked for me and didn't work to get in, PS/addendum stuff, how to get $$$, etc. I'm in-state btw, so I cant really help with the OOS-specific questions, unfortunately.
I echo RNOODLES on this. And I can pretty much confirm the 270 class size. I haven't seen official documentation on this, but that is the word throughout the whole school. UT was most likely looking to preserve its numbers, so I would be surprised to see a significant drop in numbers like UVA and GT have seen

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PatriotP74 wrote:
Attax wrote:Good luck! If I had stayed I would've been a 3L when you all are 1Ls. That's weird.

Why did you leave? (If you don't mind telling)
I idolize Nick Miller.

Real answer:
I realized biglaw was shitty, that was all I wanted to do, so I abandoned ship. I'm very happy to discuss why I did, the merits of doing it, what it is like, etc. with anyone that is wondering.

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Harry_Pluxen wrote:
MtnGinger wrote:Glad to finally see this thread started. I was admitted last year and deferred so I'll be starting 2016 with you guys. OOS and loved visiting so if I can help with anything I'll definitely try.
We were discussing how much more competitive admission is for OOS applicants (in large part because of the 35% quota). Would you mind sharing your admission story with us? Were you asked to write a "Why Texas Law Essay?" for example.

Feel free to PM me if you would prefer to not post it ITT.

I'm an Int'l applicant and am curious to see where I stand.
I don't mind and if anyone has more specific questions just PM.
But I applied as early as I could after the October LSAT I had everything done and just hit submit. I heard back really quickly asking for a why Texas essay. From what I heard as long as you were competitive early on it didn't matter that you were out of state. Just write an honest essay and at least somewhat decent reasons and you were in.
I think later in the cycle you had to have better stats as the OOS slots filled up so I recommend having everything in early.

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