Decision Date Spreadsheet & Graphs (using the '11-'12 cycle)

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Decision Date Spreadsheet & Graphs (using the '11-'12 cycle)

Postby Yardbird » Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:38 pm

Also check out my post with an updated Application Requirements/Fee Waiver Spreadsheet: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=188687
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I have updated the Decision Date Graphs and Spreadsheets to reflect the 2011-2012 cycle. A special thanks to TLS user LSATSCORES2012 for providing the raw data dump from his work on mylsn.info. He helped to cut a two week job down to three days. He is credited on the spreadsheet, but the graphs would also not have been made without his data dump.

Decision Date Spreadsheets, 2011-2012 Cycle
You can view the Decision Date Spreadsheets here. Each school is on a different tab at the bottom:
Link to Google Doc

Decision Date Graphs, 2011-2012 Cycle
The Decision Date Graphs are shown below. For reference, the 2009-2010 graphs are shown first, followed by the 2011-2012 graphs.

How to read the graphs:
Decisions are sorted in weekly increments. On the x-axis, Dec-2 denotes the first full week of December, while Nov/Dec denotes the week that starts in November and ends in December. A week begins on Sunday and ends on Saturday. The tic marks on the x-axis represent the weeks. The data points representing decisions that came out during that week will lie directly above the label for that week.

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Yale Law School (New Haven, CT)
2009-2010 (Click to Enlarge)
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2011-2012 (Click to Enlarge)
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Stanford Law School (Stanford, CA)
2009-2010 (Click to Enlarge)
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2011-2012 (Click to Enlarge)
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Harvard Law School (Cambridge, MA)
2009-2010 (Click to Enlarge)
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2011-2012 (Click to Enlarge)
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Columbia Law School (New York, NY)
2009-2010 (Click to Enlarge)
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2011-2012 (Click to Enlarge)
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University of Chicago Law School (Chicago, IL)
2009-2010 (Click to Enlarge)
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2011-2012 (Click to Enlarge)
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New York University Law School (New York, NY)
2009-2010 (Click to Enlarge)
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2011-2012 (Click to Enlarge)
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University of California, Berkeley School of Law (Berkeley, CA)
2009-2010 (Click to Enlarge)
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2011-2012 (Click to Enlarge)
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University of Pennsylvania Law School (Philadelphia, PA)
2009-2010 (Click to Enlarge)
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2011-2012 (Click to Enlarge)
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University of Virginia School of Law (Charlottesville, VA)
2009-2010 (Click to Enlarge)
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2011-2012 (Click to Enlarge)
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University of Michigan Law School (Ann Arbor, MI)
2009-2010 (Click to Enlarge)
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2011-2012 (Click to Enlarge)
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Duke University School of Law (Durham, NC)
2009-2010 (Click to Enlarge)
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2011-2012 (Click to Enlarge)
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Northwestern University Law School (Chicago, IL)
2009-2010 (Click to Enlarge)
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2011-2012 (Click to Enlarge)
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Georgetown University Law Center (Washington, DC)
2009-2010 (Click to Enlarge)
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2011-2012 (Click to Enlarge)
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Cornell Law School (Ithaca, NY)
2009-2010 (Click to Enlarge)
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2011-2012 (Click to Enlarge)
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University of California, Los Angeles School of Law (Los Angeles, CA)
2009-2010 (Click to Enlarge)
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2011-2012 (Click to Enlarge)
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University of Texas School of Law (Austin, TX)
2009-2010 (Click to Enlarge)
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2011-2012 (Click to Enlarge)
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Vanderbilt Law School (Nashville, TN)
2009-2010 (Click to Enlarge)
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2011-2012 (Click to Enlarge)
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University of Southern California School of Law (Los Angeles, CA)
2009-2010 (Click to Enlarge)
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2011-2012 (Click to Enlarge)
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University of Minnesota Law School (Minneapolis, MN)
2009-2010 (Click to Enlarge)
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2011-2012 (Click to Enlarge)
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George Washington University Law School (Washington, DC)
2009-2010 (Click to Enlarge)
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2011-2012 (Click to Enlarge)
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University of Washington School of Law (Seattle, WA)
No 2009-2010 Graph

2011-2012 (Click to Enlarge)
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University of Notre Dame Law School (South Bend, IN)
2009-2010 (Click to Enlarge)
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2011-2012 (Click to Enlarge)
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Washington University in St. Louis Law School (St. Louis, MO)
2009-2010 (Click to Enlarge)
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2011-2012 (Click to Enlarge)
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Emory University School of Law (Atlanta, GA)
2009-2010 (Click to Enlarge)
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2011-2012 (Click to Enlarge)
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Washington & Lee University School of Law (Lexington, VA)
2009-2010 (Click to Enlarge)
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2011-2012 (Click to Enlarge)
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Arizona State University College of Law (Tempe, AZ)
No 2009-2010 Graph

2011-2012 (Click to Enlarge)
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Boston University School of Law (Boston, MA)
2009-2010 (Click to Enlarge)
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2011-2012 (Click to Enlarge)
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Indiana University, Bloomington School of Law (Bloomington, IN)
2009-2010 (Click to Enlarge)
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2011-2012 (Click to Enlarge)
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University of Alabama School of Law (Tuscaloosa, AL)
No 2009-2010 Graph

2011-2012 (Click to Enlarge)
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Boston College Law School (Newton, MA)
2009-2010 (Click to Enlarge)
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2011-2012 (Click to Enlarge)
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Fordham University School of Law (New York, NY)
2009-2010 (Click to Enlarge)
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2011-2012 (Click to Enlarge)
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University of Iowa College of Law (Iowa City, IA)
2009-2010 (Click to Enlarge)
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2011-2012 (Click to Enlarge)
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University of California, Davis School of Law (Davis, CA)
2009-2010 (Click to Enlarge)
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2011-2012 (Click to Enlarge)
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The same caveats to the old graphs apply to the new graphs:
1. A glance at the acceptance rates at the schools in question will reveal that most of the graphs are an inaccurate indicator of a candidate's chances of admission. In general, the graphs are skewed towards acceptances. It is possible that applicants are more likely to report a decision date when they are accepted than when they are rejected or waitlisted, or that applicants who spend time analyzing and reporting their own admissions statistics are, on average, more qualified than the typical candidate. The viewer should be aware that a graph's rejection and waitlist humps may be misleadingly low and should take care to look up the school's acceptance rate rather than drawing conclusions about his/her chances of admission based on the graph. For some schools, waitlists far outnumber rejections, indicating that reporting bias may have skewed the data towards waitlists as well as acceptances.
2. No users were double-counted. This means that each WL/admit or WL/reject applicant was part of some initial waitlist batch but is not included in that category on the graph.
3. For decisions that were sent through the postal service rather than through e-mail or status checkers, some applicants reported the decision date as the date when their letters were postmarked, while others reported the date when they received the letter. No attempt was made to standardize these. However, the fact that decision dates are sorted by week rather than by day minimizes the difference between the two.
4. For schools that have part-time programs, no distinction was made between part-time and full-time applications.

Changes from the old cycle that may impact the 2011-2012 cycle graphs:
1. Northwestern University's ED program now includes a full tuition scholarship.
2. Boston University added an ED program which also includes a full tuition scholarship.
3. Duke now has two ED rounds as well as the priority track.

Things to take note of for the future:
1. Northwestern & BU are continuing their full-ride ED programs.
2. Cornell Law School received a $25 million dollar donation which will partially be used to fund scholarships - we may see a full-ride ED program soon in addition to its EA program (maybe not this cycle, but potentially in future cycles.
3. Rankings have changed on the lower end of the T30 significantly since two years ago and will likely continue to fluctuate if the current law school applicant trends continue.
4. This is Chicago's last year giving out Ruby's.
5. Chicago has started a binding early admit program for its own undergrads and alums with a deadline of September 1 and decisions being rendered by mid-October to mid-November. This should change the Chicago graph starting this cycle.
6. Penn now has two rounds of ED.
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Re: Decision Date Spreadsheet & Graphs (using the '11-'12 cycle)

Postby Rahviveh » Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:55 pm

shadowofjazz wrote:Hello all, I am currently in the midst of creating and compiling decision dates from LSN's into a new set of Decision Date graphs.

You can follow the work being done on the spreadsheets here: Link

I will post the updated graphs as they are made from the data. I am starting with UVA and will then go through the T30 in order.


Would be awesome to have new decision date data! I will add it to all the OP's I've made as they roll in <3

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Re: Decision Date Spreadsheet & Graphs (using the '11-'12 cycle)

Postby VUSisterRayVU » Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:57 pm

Cool man, tag for future reference. Thank you.

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Re: Decision Date Spreadsheet & Graphs (using the '11-'12 cycle)

Postby Yardbird » Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:28 pm

EDIT:

Took down original post because all the schools are forthcoming quickly now (by Friday) thanks to LSATSCORES2012!
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Re: Decision Date Spreadsheet & Graphs (using the '11-'12 cycle)

Postby LSATSCORES2012 » Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:46 pm

Also feel free to check out the decision graphs on mylsn.info. Shadowofjazz's are more useful though because they're more specific.

Shadowofjazz if you want my raw data let me know, might save you some time.

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Re: Decision Date Spreadsheet & Graphs (using the '11-'12 cycle)

Postby Yardbird » Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:56 pm

LSATSCORES2012 wrote:Also feel free to check out the decision graphs on mylsn.info. Shadowofjazz's are more useful though because they're more specific.

Shadowofjazz if you want my raw data let me know, might save you some time.

Uhhhh...yea I'm PMing you my email. The raw data would be very helpful =)

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Re: Decision Date Spreadsheet & Graphs (using the '11-'12 cycle)

Postby Yardbird » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:07 pm

Spreadsheet will be done by tonight, updates are being made live on the Google Doc (so you can look at some of the completed schools - HYSCC). Graphs should be done by tomorrow night :)

I lied, I have family coming over so I'll just finish up the T14 for today and do the graphs for the T14 tonight. I'll do the rest of the spreadsheet tomorrow and the graphs over the weekend. I'll be posting the graphs as a comparison to the 2009-2010 graphs.

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Re: Decision Date Spreadsheet & Graphs (using the '11-'12 cycle)

Postby Yardbird » Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:14 pm

Updated T14 graphs in the first post, with the 2009-2010 graphs shown first for comparison.

The rest of the T30 will be out by the end of the weekend. I've automated the graphing process, so its just a matter of updating & formatting the decision date spreadsheet. I think its interesting to see that some schools have almost identical graphs between the two years (one with high application volume and one with low application volume) while other schools have changed how they render decisions.

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Re: Decision Date Spreadsheet & Graphs (using the '11-'12 cycle)

Postby Yardbird » Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:37 am

The rest of the T30 in the spreadsheet are done, decision graphs are forthcoming within the next hour or so.

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Re: Decision Date Spreadsheet & Graphs (using the '11-'12 cycle)

Postby Yardbird » Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:27 pm

This project is finished, the T30 Decision Dates are in the spreadsheet and are graphically represented in the first post. Not sure how to get a mod's attention but this should be added to the decision dates TLS page (or maybe create a new one?):

OLD Decision Dates TLS article: http://www.top-law-schools.com/decision-dates.html
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Re: Decision Date Spreadsheet & Graphs (using the '11-'12 cycle)

Postby Rahviveh » Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:35 pm

Awesome work shadow of jazz! I'm going to start putting up the new graphs now

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Re: Decision Date Spreadsheet & Graphs (using the '11-'12 cycle)

Postby Yardbird » Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:37 pm

ChampagnePapi wrote:Awesome work shadow of jazz! I'm going to start putting up the new graphs now

Thanks! A special thanks and shout out to LSATSCORES2012. This project would have taken at least two weeks if it wasn't for his raw data. He helped make two weeks of grunt work shrink to three days of work.

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Re: Decision Date Spreadsheet & Graphs (using the '11-'12 cycle)

Postby Rahviveh » Fri Aug 17, 2012 2:58 pm

Has NW confirmed they are continuing their ED program?

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Re: Decision Date Spreadsheet & Graphs (using the '11-'12 cycle)

Postby Yardbird » Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:10 pm

ChampagnePapi wrote:Has NW confirmed they are continuing their ED program?

Yes because:
Northwestern University Law School wrote:Applicants who are admitted in December 2012 to the three-year JD program through binding early decision and who matriculate in Fall 2013 will receive a $50,000 merit scholarship per year for three years.
also not full tuition because $50,000 < $51,368

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Re: Decision Date Spreadsheet & Graphs (using the '11-'12 cycle)

Postby Rahviveh » Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:19 pm

shadowofjazz wrote:
ChampagnePapi wrote:Has NW confirmed they are continuing their ED program?

Yes because:
Northwestern University Law School wrote:Applicants who are admitted in December 2012 to the three-year JD program through binding early decision and who matriculate in Fall 2013 will receive a $50,000 merit scholarship per year for three years.
also not full tuition because $50,000 < $51,368


Awesome, thanks! I called a couple weeks ago and they said they didn't know, but looks like they do now! Still an awesome deal.

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Re: Decision Date Spreadsheet & Graphs (using the '11-'12 cycle)

Postby Yardbird » Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:07 pm

Added color coding and school labels on each tab's sheet to make it a little easier to read and figure out what you're looking at.

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Re: Decision Date Spreadsheet & Graphs (using the '11-'12 cycle)

Postby Jaqen » Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:03 am

Thanks for putting this together.

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Postby husker2012 » Tue Oct 30, 2012 6:07 pm

I haven't decided if this helps or hurts my anxiety, but it's definitely good info to have. Thanks for putting it together!

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Re: Decision Date Spreadsheet & Graphs (using the '11-'12 cycle)

Postby JohnMarshall17 » Sun Nov 25, 2012 1:30 pm

So useful. Thank you!

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Re: Decision Date Spreadsheet & Graphs (using the '11-'12 cycle)

Postby FallingHigher » Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:50 am

Thank you for all of this!

Quick question though, will the decline in applicants impact the decision dates this cycle? For instance, schools might hold off on a wave or two of acceptances until the December numbers come out?

I haven't been following this cycle's trend so idk. What do you think?

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Re: Decision Date Spreadsheet & Graphs (using the '11-'12 cycle)

Postby dproduct » Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:59 am

This is epic. Thank you, thank you, thank you!

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