University of Minnesota $$$ VS University of Virginia 2013

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University of Minnesota $$$ VS University of Virginia 2013

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University of Minnesota $$$ VS University of Virginia 2013

Postby whatismylife » Mon May 14, 2012 11:01 am

Ok. I am seriously going nuts here and any input from TLS would be appreciated.

Here's the situation:
I've been accepted at the U of MN where I'm in-state, have a fat scholarship, and my SO of 4 years (not married or engaged) has also been accepted. We have already signed a lease to an amazing apartment that is right across the street from the law school and everything is set for the fall (2012).

Last week, University of Virginia (where I've been waitlisted since December) threw a curve ball at me and said that if I agreed to defer a year, I'd have a guaranteed seat in 2013. This would require me to withdraw my seat @ MN and agree to not apply anywhere else next year.

With my numbers, it's amazing that they want me at all and it's always been my dream to go to a T14 and work in the East Coast. Unfortunately they're not guaranteeing any schollies and I'll probably have to pay sticker. Waiting another year would also suck because it'll be my fourth year out of undergrad and my current FT job is decent but I'm sick of it.

So, do I take MN this year where I have ties to the area, a lease signed with the SO, and practically no debt, or put another year of my life on hold for the chance of pursuing my dream of T14/East Coast/Big Law with shit loads of debt????

Note: I'm very in love with the SO and choosing UVA would crush him/potentially destroy the relationship.

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Re: University of Minnesota $$$ VS University of Virginia 2013

Postby mrjohnsterman » Mon May 14, 2012 11:13 am

I think the general wisdom would be go to UVA, but no one here can tell you how to react in regards to your SO.

(Though, if it would help you make up your mind you can always hint to him that a ring on your finger would make the decision easier)

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Re: University of Minnesota $$$ VS University of Virginia 2013

Postby rad lulz » Mon May 14, 2012 11:26 am

Get DAT ROCK gurl and go to Minn. Yall can be depressed lawyers together.

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Re: University of Minnesota $$$ VS University of Virginia 2013

Postby Doorkeeper » Mon May 14, 2012 11:28 am

I can understand Minn here iff: 1) You plan on marrying your SO, and 2) You want to work in Minnesota.

If both conditions do not apply, go UVA. Also, are they giving you any scholarship money at UVA?

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Re: University of Minnesota $$$ VS University of Virginia 2013

Postby whatismylife » Mon May 14, 2012 11:29 am

rad lulz wrote:Get DAT ROCK gurl and go to Minn. Yall can be depressed lawyers together.


Nooo I'm not interested in getting married. Maybe in like 10 years.

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Re: University of Minnesota $$$ VS University of Virginia 2013

Postby whatismylife » Mon May 14, 2012 11:33 am

Doorkeeper wrote:I can understand Minn here iff: 1) You plan on marrying your SO, and 2) You want to work in Minnesota.

If both conditions do not apply, go UVA. Also, are they giving you any scholarship money at UVA?


They said I may qualify for scholly money but no guarantee. Don't really want to work in MN but am open to it if it's a good job.

Not planning on marrying the SO any time soon, but we have a really solid relationship and I can't really see myself with anyone else.

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Re: University of Minnesota $$$ VS University of Virginia 2013

Postby rad lulz » Mon May 14, 2012 11:35 am

whatismylife wrote:
rad lulz wrote:Get DAT ROCK gurl and go to Minn. Yall can be depressed lawyers together.


Nooo I'm not interested in getting married. Maybe in like 10 years.


Do you plan on marrying THIS SO?

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Re: University of Minnesota $$$ VS University of Virginia 2013

Postby Samara » Mon May 14, 2012 11:38 am

How close to zero is the debt from UMinn? Considering your situation, I think I'd stick with UMinn. Sticker at UVa still carries a lot of risk and it would disrupt your life a lot.

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Re: University of Minnesota $$$ VS University of Virginia 2013

Postby whatismylife » Mon May 14, 2012 11:42 am

Samara wrote:How close to zero is the debt from UMinn? Considering your situation, I think I'd stick with UMinn. Sticker at UVA still carries a lot of risk and it would disrupt your life a lot.


I guess I shouldn't have said "practically no debt" because I'd still be $40,000 in the hole, but relative to UVA/what others pay for law school in general it's pretty insignificant.

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Re: University of Minnesota $$$ VS University of Virginia 2013

Postby Samara » Mon May 14, 2012 11:48 am

whatismylife wrote:
Samara wrote:How close to zero is the debt from UMinn? Considering your situation, I think I'd stick with UMinn. Sticker at UVA still carries a lot of risk and it would disrupt your life a lot.


I guess I shouldn't have said "practically no debt" because I'd still be $40,000 in the hole, but relative to UVA/what others pay for law school in general it's pretty insignificant.

Yeah, that's still substantial, but definitely doable. Will your SO have a lot of debt? Will you be or feel obligated to help her out if she strikes out?

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Re: University of Minnesota $$$ VS University of Virginia 2013

Postby rad lulz » Mon May 14, 2012 11:49 am

whatismylife wrote:Don't really want to work in MN but am open to it if it's a good job.

Define "good job"

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Re: University of Minnesota $$$ VS University of Virginia 2013

Postby whatismylife » Mon May 14, 2012 12:00 pm

Samara wrote:
whatismylife wrote:
Samara wrote:How close to zero is the debt from UMinn? Considering your situation, I think I'd stick with UMinn. Sticker at UVA still carries a lot of risk and it would disrupt your life a lot.


I guess I shouldn't have said "practically no debt" because I'd still be $40,000 in the hole, but relative to UVA/what others pay for law school in general it's pretty insignificant.

Yeah, that's still substantial, but definitely doable. Will your SO have a lot of debt? Will you be or feel obligated to help her out if she strikes out?


My SO will have no debt because his parents are paying for everything + he got a big scholly.

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Re: University of Minnesota $$$ VS University of Virginia 2013

Postby whatismylife » Mon May 14, 2012 12:01 pm

rad lulz wrote:
whatismylife wrote:Don't really want to work in MN but am open to it if it's a good job.

Define "good job"


High-paying job at a large firm, in-house at a Fortune 500 (though I know this requires several years of experience first)

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Re: University of Minnesota $$$ VS University of Virginia 2013

Postby rad lulz » Mon May 14, 2012 12:05 pm

whatismylife wrote:
rad lulz wrote:
whatismylife wrote:Don't really want to work in MN but am open to it if it's a good job.

Define "good job"


High-paying job at a large firm, in-house at a Fortune 500 (though I know this requires several years of experience first)

Yeah your chances of that from UMinn are pretty slim yaknow. Like 20% of the class gets this result. Might be time to reevaluate with this SO...

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Re: University of Minnesota $$$ VS University of Virginia 2013

Postby Doorkeeper » Mon May 14, 2012 12:06 pm

rad lulz wrote:
whatismylife wrote:
rad lulz wrote:
whatismylife wrote:Don't really want to work in MN but am open to it if it's a good job.

Define "good job"


High-paying job at a large firm, in-house at a Fortune 500 (though I know this requires several years of experience first)

Yeah your chances of that from UMinn are pretty slim yaknow. Like 20% of the class gets this result. Might be time to reevaluate with this SO...

This. If you choose Minn, you're going to need to be happy at any law firm in Minnesota...not necessarily a "high-paying" job at a "large" firm.

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Re: University of Minnesota $$$ VS University of Virginia 2013

Postby Ruxin1 » Mon May 14, 2012 12:09 pm

and TBF, you and your SO will probably hate each other after three years of lawl school.

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Re: University of Minnesota $$$ VS University of Virginia 2013

Postby top30man » Mon May 14, 2012 12:11 pm

rad lulz wrote:
whatismylife wrote:
rad lulz wrote:
whatismylife wrote:Don't really want to work in MN but am open to it if it's a good job.

Define "good job"


High-paying job at a large firm, in-house at a Fortune 500 (though I know this requires several years of experience first)

Yeah your chances of that from UMinn are pretty slim yaknow. Like 20% of the class gets this result. Might be time to reevaluate with this SO...

Your goals sound much more in line with UVA than UMinn. I'd go to UVA. If you are willing to work in small firms / other relatively low paying jobs for your SO then go to Minn.

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Re: University of Minnesota $$$ VS University of Virginia 2013

Postby minnbills » Mon May 14, 2012 12:23 pm

If you've got your heart set on these goals then UVA by a mile, and I say this as somebody going to UMN this fall (and really excited about it.)

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Re: University of Minnesota $$$ VS University of Virginia 2013

Postby JamMasterJ » Mon May 14, 2012 12:25 pm

Minnesota is TCR unless the idea of working in Minnesota is out of the question

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Re: University of Minnesota $$$ VS University of Virginia 2013

Postby whatismylife » Mon May 14, 2012 12:35 pm

JamMasterJ wrote:Minnesota is TCR unless the idea of working in Minnesota is out of the question


It's not out of the question, but the winters are unbearable for me (I'm 100lb half-asian girl). I did my UG here and was really looking forward to getting out of Minny, but the SO got in and it became the best option. I guess I can stick it out for 3 years in lawl school if needed but would do everything I can to get out once I graduate.

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Re: University of Minnesota $$$ VS University of Virginia 2013

Postby Ruxin1 » Mon May 14, 2012 12:37 pm

whatismylife wrote:
JamMasterJ wrote:Minnesota is TCR unless the idea of working in Minnesota is out of the question


It's not out of the question, but the winters are unbearable for me (I'm 100lb half-asian girl). I did my UG here and was really looking forward to getting out of Minny, but the SO got in and it became the best option. I guess I can stick it out for 3 years in lawl school if needed but would do everything I can to get out once I graduate.


It's going to be really hard to leave the state from that school, go UVA.

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Re: University of Minnesota $$$ VS University of Virginia 2013

Postby Doorkeeper » Mon May 14, 2012 12:39 pm

whatismylife wrote:
JamMasterJ wrote:Minnesota is TCR unless the idea of working in Minnesota is out of the question


It's not out of the question, but the winters are unbearable for me (I'm 100lb half-asian girl). I did my UG here and was really looking forward to getting out of Minny, but the SO got in and it became the best option. I guess I can stick it out for 3 years in lawl school if needed but would do everything I can to get out once I graduate.

Then you need to go to UVA. This isn't even an option.

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Re: University of Minnesota $$$ VS University of Virginia 2013

Postby whatismylife » Mon May 14, 2012 12:43 pm

Doorkeeper wrote:
whatismylife wrote:
JamMasterJ wrote:Minnesota is TCR unless the idea of working in Minnesota is out of the question


It's not out of the question, but the winters are unbearable for me (I'm 100lb half-asian girl). I did my UG here and was really looking forward to getting out of Minny, but the SO got in and it became the best option. I guess I can stick it out for 3 years in lawl school if needed but would do everything I can to get out once I graduate.

Then you need to go to UVA. This isn't even an option.


Hmmm when I went to ASW, it sounded like quite a few grads had jobs lined up on the coasts though?

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Re: University of Minnesota $$$ VS University of Virginia 2013

Postby Ruxin1 » Mon May 14, 2012 12:44 pm

whatismylife wrote:
Doorkeeper wrote:
whatismylife wrote:
JamMasterJ wrote:Minnesota is TCR unless the idea of working in Minnesota is out of the question


It's not out of the question, but the winters are unbearable for me (I'm 100lb half-asian girl). I did my UG here and was really looking forward to getting out of Minny, but the SO got in and it became the best option. I guess I can stick it out for 3 years in lawl school if needed but would do everything I can to get out once I graduate.

Then you need to go to UVA. This isn't even an option.


Hmmm when I went to ASW, it sounded like quite a few grads had jobs lined up on the coasts though?


prob top 5/10% people with ties.

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Re: University of Minnesota $$$ VS University of Virginia 2013

Postby minnbills » Mon May 14, 2012 12:48 pm

Ruxin1 wrote:
prob top 5/10% people with ties.


Minnesota has a quartile system, actually.

Probably right on the ties though, people who grew up out of state and then utilized those networks to move back probably make up a huge chunk of that OOS number.




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