Berkeley Waitlist/Faculty Review Support Group 2012

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kennethellenparcell
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Berkeley Waitlist/Faculty Review Support Group 2012

Postby kennethellenparcell » Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:22 pm

WAITLIST INFORMATION

Since FR2 looks like it is winding down, IT IS THE TIME OF THE WAITLIST. Anxiety galore! To help us get through this time, I'm posting all information I found on Berkeley waitlists after I received mine. Bottom line: don't give up hope if you really love Berkeley!

It appears that in past years, Berkeley has had a CA resident and non-CA resident waitlist that are separately ranked. They have drawn from the CA resident waitlist first. It may be because these applicants are more likely to attend. I'm not entirely sure. In any case, worth it to be aware.

From Berk's waitlist e-mail, each candidate will be given a ranking on the waitlist in May. You can call or e-mail the admissions office to get your ranking then. Candidates are split into quartiles. It is important to note that Berkeley does not require a seat deposit. Berkeley also says that sending in additional materials will not affect your ranking on the waitlist as it is done at the time you go through FR.

What are my chances at getting off the waitlist?

Dean Tom TLS Interview wrote: TLS: What is the size of Boalt’s waitlist?

Dean Tom: “Usually the waitlist is anywhere from 200-300 applicants who are ranked by the admissions committee.”

TLS: Roughly how deep into the waitlist does Boalt go?

Dean Tom: “This year [not sure of year of this interview], not very deep. I think the deepest we’ve ever gone was a number of years back, we took about 40 people.”

TLS: Wow, not many.

Dean Tom: “No. This year it was 12. But, it varies from year to year, and this year, because I knew how good the people were on the waiting list, I intentionally admitted fewer people up front, thinking that I could go deeper into the waiting list. But, I wasn’t able to, because the yield rate was very high. A large percentage of accepted applicants decided to attend. ”

TLS: Good for Boalt.

Dean Tom: “Yeah, well, so much for my big idea.”



Should I send in LOCI/additional materials given the ranking system?
Personally, I think so. Expressing continued interest is never a bad thing as long as you are not obnoxious about it. With that said, however.

Dean Tom TLS Interview wrote: TLS: If one ends up on the waitlist, is there anything that you can do to increase the likelihood of admission?

Dean Tom: “No. There’s nothing you can do to improve your chances. And we tell people that when we inform them that they are on the waiting list. The waiting list is ranked by the faculty at the time the decision is made to waitlist them, because we believe the information is fresh in their mind and they’re best able to assign a waitlist ranking at that time.”

TLS: So saying that you’re still interested doesn’t matter?

Dean Tom: “Well, that helps us, but it’s not going to improve your chances or position.”


2011 Berkeley Waitlist Thread: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=147933
2010 Berkeley Waitlist Thread: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=108903
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FACULTY REVIEW STUFF FOR POSTERITY
I'm a splitter so I'm surprised that I'm even getting a faculty review!

Would be honored to get an acceptance from Berkeley. But for those who've received faculty reviews today (and in the future), I'm starting this thread to cope with the wait between now and February 17.

This. I want to hug it like a koala.

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Additional Information on Faculty Review

What is Faculty Review and what are my chances? - From Dean Tom's TLS interview (I think these numbers may be a few years old but not sure if they change much from year to year):

Dean Tom also offers some insight into the admissions process itself. “All the files are read, previewed initially by me or by one of my staff. I have four other people who help me with the application process initially. However, I read the bulk of them. I read about two-thirds of the applicant pool, while the other four read the other one-third. It’s structured this way because I know what I’m looking for. And, if my staff finds an applicant whom they want to admit, they have to bring the file to me for a final review. Concurrent to this review process we also identify about 1400 to 1600 other applications that are very competitive, and these we send to our faculty admissions committee, comprised of six faculty and twelve students. Students serve in an advising capacity on the committee. I admit roughly 550 people through what I call the administrative review process, and the admissions committee (the faculty committee) admits about another 200 or so. So, we end up admitting about 700 to 750 people. The admissions committee also structures a waiting list, and then everyone else is denied, either administratively or by the Committee.

Other Stuff on Faculty Review
The View Inside Boalt
2010 Faculty Review Support Group
2011 Faculty Review Support Group
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Re: Berkeley Faculty Review Support Group 2012

Postby andrel2006 » Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:57 pm

For anyone who knows the answer: do they deliver all of the responses simultaneously, or is 2/17 the day they should be done? As in, do they roll out decisions as they move along the process, or everyone knows on the 17th (or whenever) and only the 17th?

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Re: Berkeley Faculty Review Support Group 2012

Postby tjddk » Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:59 pm

andrel2006 wrote:For anyone who knows the answer: do they deliver all of the responses simultaneously, or is 2/17 the day they should be done? As in, do they roll out decisions as they move along the process, or everyone knows on the 17th (or whenever) and only the 17th?


Last year, some decisions came out a few days before the stated date. Which is why the email says "on or around February 17th." I don't expect anything MUCH earlier than that, but a few days is reasonable to expect.

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Re: Berkeley Faculty Review Support Group 2012

Postby catwomangirl » Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:19 pm

I'm with you guys!

So does anyone know how FR works?

Is it softs-oriented?

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Re: Berkeley Faculty Review Support Group 2012

Postby bigtexmex » Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:26 pm

Good luck to y'all. Hopefully, y'all get in.

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Re: Berkeley Faculty Review Support Group 2012

Postby Campagnolo » Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:30 pm

Oh good: another thread to check.

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Re: Berkeley Faculty Review Support Group 2012

Postby thesmark » Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:35 pm

FR as well as a CA resident w/ 170/3.75 so I hope I have a good chance considering Berkeley is my #1 (realistic) choice.

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Re: Berkeley Faculty Review Support Group 2012

Postby EMZE » Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:54 pm

Checking in. 3.4/167, non-URM. Softs uniquely unique, well beyond just being a vet. I am very happy to have a date to attach to an expectation for a decision.

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Re: Berkeley Faculty Review Support Group 2012

Postby chicagohopeful » Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:01 pm

A few little questions:
Can I send in some additional materials at this point (i.e. a writing sample or LOCI)?
Should I somehow communicate that my brother is a grad student at Berkeley?

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Re: Berkeley Faculty Review Support Group 2012

Postby gatorapplicant » Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:19 pm

Checking in. Berkeley is a reach for me so I'm actually honored to be in this group. I think I may have jumped the gun when I sent a LOCI in early January, hopefully that doesn't hurt me.

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Re: Berkeley Faculty Review Support Group 2012

Postby tjddk » Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:23 pm

chicagohopeful wrote:A few little questions:
Can I send in some additional materials at this point (i.e. a writing sample or LOCI)?
Should I somehow communicate that my brother is a grad student at Berkeley?


I'm not sure how your brother's being a grad student (assuming non-law) at Berkeley adds much to your application.

Follow up question: to whom should I send any additional materials (kind of doubt I'd send anything, but just in case)? I sent an LSAT addendum in early Dec and got a generic catch-all "we're swamped - if you're sending additional materials, please assume we've got it" response.

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Re: Berkeley Faculty Review Support Group 2012

Postby adrish22 » Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:57 pm

I just received the email today too...I was pleasantly surprised. When did you guys apply?

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Re: Berkeley Faculty Review Support Group 2012

Postby catwomangirl » Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:02 pm

Early November

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Re: Berkeley Faculty Review Support Group 2012

Postby gatorapplicant » Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:05 pm

adrish22 wrote:I just received the email today too...I was pleasantly surprised. When did you guys apply?


mid-September, it's been a long wait so far

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Re: Berkeley Faculty Review Support Group 2012

Postby JoeMo » Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:21 pm

Campagnolo wrote:Oh good: another thread to check.


+1

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Re: Berkeley Faculty Review Support Group 2012

Postby kennethellenparcell » Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:23 pm

I applied 12/15.

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Re: Berkeley Faculty Review Support Group 2012

Postby JoeMo » Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:24 pm

I applied early October, didn't go complete until whenever the Oct LSAT scores came out and I forgot my UR date from saying it so much but I think it was 10/27 or something.

Either way, I kind of expected this because I'm a reverse splitter. I hope they can see how much I like them.

Especially, since y'all are kind of zen in comparisons to other bunches.

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Re: Berkeley Faculty Review Support Group 2012

Postby kennethellenparcell » Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:29 pm

By the way - to the LOCI question, I was reading the threads from previous years and it seems that submitting LOCIs at this point may not be a good idea. Probably should save it for if you are waitlisted. I think additional materials might be ok if they really add something to your application - like an updated grade report that reflects a higher GPA. Someone who is more knowledgeable though - please correct me if I'm wrong!

I'll probably be zen until 12/15. Then it will be freakout city. :D

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Re: Berkeley Faculty Review Support Group 2012

Postby Anciano » Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:33 pm

Checking in. I'm a pretty heavy splitter and below Berkeley's GPA floor, so I'm not too optimistic, but I think my weird background should help. Good luck to all of you!

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Re: Berkeley Faculty Review Support Group 2012

Postby Aspen » Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:41 pm

gatorapplicant wrote:
adrish22 wrote:I just received the email today too...I was pleasantly surprised. When did you guys apply?


mid-September, it's been a long wait so far


Yea same for me. I can't believe it has been 4 months so far. Only 3 more weeks to go though till we find out though.

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Re: Berkeley Faculty Review Support Group 2012

Postby THATSHOWYOUGETANTS » Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:43 pm

chicagohopeful wrote:A few little questions:
Can I send in some additional materials at this point (i.e. a writing sample or LOCI)?
Should I somehow communicate that my brother is a grad student at Berkeley?

i sent them an email asking about sending another lor or loci, but haven't heard back.

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Re: Berkeley Faculty Review Support Group 2012

Postby fh739 » Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:03 pm

When does the second round of FC review start? (Just wondering)

Thanks!

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Re: Berkeley Faculty Review Support Group 2012

Postby brogoc » Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:52 pm

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Re: Berkeley Faculty Review Support Group 2012

Postby THATSHOWYOUGETANTS » Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:56 pm

THATSHOWYOUGETANTS wrote:
chicagohopeful wrote:A few little questions:
Can I send in some additional materials at this point (i.e. a writing sample or LOCI)?
Should I somehow communicate that my brother is a grad student at Berkeley?

i sent them an email asking about sending another lor or loci, but haven't heard back.

they said "no, it's not necessary"........ sooooo i'mma call tomorrow, cause that's not a yes or no

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Re: Berkeley Faculty Review Support Group 2012

Postby viacavour » Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:25 am

checking in, got faculty review today.

177/3.8 I was actually JUST at Berkeley and fell completely in love with it.

I can't tell if this is a good or a bad sign, submitted 12/12




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