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Where did you deposit / where are you going to deposit?

Yale
11
6%
Stanford
10
5%
Columbia
49
26%
Chicago
20
10%
NYU
20
10%
Penn
10
5%
UVA
9
5%
Duke
12
6%
Berkeley
6
3%
Other: elaborate ITT
44
23%
 
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Post by corporatebarbarian » Wed May 07, 2014 4:52 pm

I've got a pit in my stomach about my interview. Hard for me to not feel like this is the most important 20 minutes of my life.

Any JS1 resources anyone want to share?

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Post by jojobean7 » Wed May 07, 2014 5:25 pm

I think someone posted this earlier ITT
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 2&t=200887

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Post by Nonconsecutive » Wed May 07, 2014 8:27 pm

jojobean7 wrote:I think someone posted this earlier ITT
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 2&t=200887
Yeah that thread is pretty much required reading if you are nervous about your interview and/or don't have much interview experience.

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Post by lawschool22 » Thu May 08, 2014 6:43 am

gottago wrote:
manu6926 wrote:
lawlorbust wrote: soliciting advice here: full-ride Harvard vs sticker Cooley.

MANU6926 PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR COMPLETELY HELPFUL, TOTALLY OBJECTIVE VIEW AND TELL ME WHERE TO GO!!!!
I was being serious there though. Columbia Butler may not be necessarily better than HLS depending on your goals. That's why I am in fact waiting anxiously for HLS. But that Columbia combo (Butler with MBA), if it's a three-year program, at least to me, looks better than HLS.

I don't know. Congrats on your achievement. If we don't manage to get off the wl, we'll see each other at Columbia I guess.
Lol "serious there though." I agree Columbia 3-year JD-MBA w/ Butler is better than HLS, but what's with Manu's going around to threads like "Harvard max grant vs XYZ sticker" and chanting "XYZ sticker?"
Let's not pick fights in this thread please. Especially if off topic.

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Post by LSATneurotic » Thu May 08, 2014 9:57 am

lawschool22 wrote:
gottago wrote:
manu6926 wrote:
lawlorbust wrote: soliciting advice here: full-ride Harvard vs sticker Cooley.

MANU6926 PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR COMPLETELY HELPFUL, TOTALLY OBJECTIVE VIEW AND TELL ME WHERE TO GO!!!!
I was being serious there though. Columbia Butler may not be necessarily better than HLS depending on your goals. That's why I am in fact waiting anxiously for HLS. But that Columbia combo (Butler with MBA), if it's a three-year program, at least to me, looks better than HLS.

I don't know. Congrats on your achievement. If we don't manage to get off the wl, we'll see each other at Columbia I guess.
Lol "serious there though." I agree Columbia 3-year JD-MBA w/ Butler is better than HLS, but what's with Manu's going around to threads like "Harvard max grant vs XYZ sticker" and chanting "XYZ sticker?"
Let's not pick fights in this thread please. Especially if off topic.
This is the internet. You can't just let people walk all over you! The respect of strangers is at stake.

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Post by aris_tls » Thu May 08, 2014 11:59 am

Hi, I received JS1 invitation yesterday and just finished an interview today. It was conducted by Danielle Early. She asked several general questions like the interested area of law, why law school, and why now. Besides, she was interested in our current plans about law school.

Here I have a question and hope that those who also finished JS1 could help!! At the end of the interview, Danielle talked about the time of the final decision, and also said that I needed to email her within 24 hours after the interview? I didn't get that part clearly. Could anyone explain it?

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Post by calle_25 » Thu May 08, 2014 12:27 pm

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Post by Balthy » Thu May 08, 2014 12:32 pm

Didn't even realize this thread exists. Also js1!

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Post by sup_stan » Thu May 08, 2014 12:45 pm

Balthy wrote:Didn't even realize this thread exists. Also js1!
Spreadsheet on the first page please. And congratz!
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Post by Balthy » Thu May 08, 2014 3:46 pm

sup_stan wrote:
Balthy wrote:Didn't even realize this thread exists. Also js1!
Spreadsheet at the first page please. And congratz!
Thanks! I'm abroad and for some reason my phone is automatically translating everything on the spreadsheet to spanish. Gonna have to try it later on my laptop.

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Post by drawstring » Thu May 08, 2014 4:01 pm

So, if any trends are apparent so far with the recent JS1s, they may be that a number of them went to late applicants and almost all have WE per the spreadsheet.

Nothing really obvious in terms of number trends.

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Post by heirloom » Thu May 08, 2014 5:42 pm

Noob question: What is a JS1-B?

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Post by drawstring » Thu May 08, 2014 5:45 pm

heirloom wrote:Noob question: What is a JS1-B?
It's a phone call waitlisted applicants (I think only those who had a pre-WL interview) get the day or so before being admitted. It's done for yield protection purposes, and basically if you suggest that you'll go to Harvard you get in

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Post by heirloom » Thu May 08, 2014 5:51 pm

drawstring wrote:
heirloom wrote:Noob question: What is a JS1-B?
It's a phone call waitlisted applicants (I think only those who had a pre-WL interview) get the day or so before being admitted. It's done for yield protection purposes, and basically if you suggest that you'll go to Harvard you get in
Word. Thank you. Any thoughts on whether the 24-hour homework is something of a replacement for the JS1-B? Did JS1's this week pretty uniformly get the "homework?"

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Post by drawstring » Thu May 08, 2014 5:52 pm

What exactly are you supposed to do?

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Post by gma221 » Thu May 08, 2014 6:00 pm

heirloom wrote:
drawstring wrote:
heirloom wrote:Noob question: What is a JS1-B?
It's a phone call waitlisted applicants (I think only those who had a pre-WL interview) get the day or so before being admitted. It's done for yield protection purposes, and basically if you suggest that you'll go to Harvard you get in
Word. Thank you. Any thoughts on whether the 24-hour homework is something of a replacement for the JS1-B? Did JS1's this week pretty uniformly get the "homework?"
I did. I'm probably going to get an F.

Draw - the "homework" is an email that we were asked to send within 24 hours stating whether or not we can commit right now to attending Harvard.

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Post by drawstring » Thu May 08, 2014 6:01 pm

Gotcha.

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Post by corporatebarbarian » Thu May 08, 2014 6:06 pm

Wait what?!

Probably (definitely) getting way too hopeful, but I want to believe that means they intend to admit everyone they're interviewing this week! :shock: :D

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Post by heirloom » Thu May 08, 2014 6:10 pm

corporatebarbarian wrote:Wait what?!

Probably (definitely) getting way too hopeful, but I want to believe that means they intend to admit everyone they're interviewing this week! :shock: :D
I think that is the best-case interpretation. But other scenarios more likely....

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Post by gma221 » Thu May 08, 2014 6:14 pm

corporatebarbarian wrote:Wait what?!

Probably (definitely) getting way too hopeful, but I want to believe that means they intend to admit everyone they're interviewing this week! :shock: :D
I may have phrased my previous post poorly. Essentially, before extending an offer, they want to know how committed we are. My assumption is that people who are on the fence (like me) are unlikely to get in.

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Post by calle_25 » Thu May 08, 2014 7:37 pm

gma221 wrote:
corporatebarbarian wrote:Wait what?!

Probably (definitely) getting way too hopeful, but I want to believe that means they intend to admit everyone they're interviewing this week! :shock: :D
I may have phrased my previous post poorly. Essentially, before extending an offer, they want to know how committed we are. My assumption is that people who are on the fence (like me) are unlikely to get in.
Maybe it's wishful thinking, but I got the genuine sense from my interviewer that if, through your "homework", you expressed strong commitment toward attending HLS, you had a good shot of getting in. Again, this is based on nothing more than my gut feeling, so take it for what it's worth. It'll be interesting to see how things play out with this first round of JS1s.

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Post by sup_stan » Thu May 08, 2014 7:55 pm

drawstring wrote:
heirloom wrote:Noob question: What is a JS1-B?
It's a phone call waitlisted applicants (I think only those who had a pre-WL interview) get the day or so before being admitted. It's done for yield protection purposes, and basically if you suggest that you'll go to Harvard you get in
From last year's thread and spreadsheet, it seems like everyone got a JS1b before being admitted, including those who had JS1 post-WL. It's strange how they started JS1 so much later this year but seem to be making decisions more quickly with the 24-hr commitment thing that has not been seen from previous cycles. The new "homework" does sound very much like a replacement for JS1b.

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Post by drawstring » Thu May 08, 2014 7:58 pm

hmmm....maybe it's a way of getting it out of the way for those who got interviews. I wonder what that suggests for people who already had interviews; will they get the 'homework' or a call?

I feel like there's a good chance JS2s go out late next week if they don't have to take the time to do calls for WL---JS1 applicants.

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Post by sup_stan » Thu May 08, 2014 8:27 pm

They seem to have a smaller WL this year with a much larger portion of it being pre-WL JS1s. The number of post-WL JS1s that have gone out so far also do not seem to match up to the number in the initial post-WL JS1 wave last year. The fact that they could afford to wait until May 6 to do JS1 and still set an initial decision timeline of May 15-20 probably suggests either: 1) their yield is better this year, and they dont need as many people off the WL, or 2) they are going to pull relatively heavy from the pre-WL JS1 group and therefore do not need to do as many post-WL JS1s. I'm guessing it's a combination of the two. They also seemed to have rejected more JS1s pre-WL this cycle, and I am not sure whether that has anything to do with the smaller number of post-WL JS1s so far. I kind of feel that Harvard is winning more cross-admit battles with Yale and Stanford this year from reading some of the threads on this forum. My conjecture is that HLS probably will not pull as many from WL compared to last year, and the post-WL admits will consist more of the pre-WL JS1 group.

Spivey has a recent blog post about summer melt that kind of suggests the same idea (T6 is unlikely to pull more from their waitlist than last year due to stronger applicant pool or something).

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